Bournemouth council leader ‘grilled’ by community over Boscombe Regeneration Project

Bournemouth Echo: Bustling Boscombe Bustling Boscombe

THE leader of Bournemouth council received a grilling on the Boscombe Regeneration Project at a community question and answer session on Saturday.

Cllr John Beesley spoke at Boscombe Forum before opening the floor to questions, with many residents attending to find out more about the council’s plans to improve the area.

He estimated that it may take 10 to 15 years for work on the regeneration project to be completed and said that Bournemouth council was committed to buying HMOs that were not fit for purpose.

These would then be turned into family flats, which had already happened on three occasions.

Ralph Grundy, a resident and a landlord of two HMOs in the area, said: “I think that Cllr John Beesley was on the right track today.

“His main focus was on improving housing in Boscombe, which is fine, but my point was that if the standard isn’t already there, it won’t improve in the future.

“I have found that some of the bedsits in Boscombe aren’t as good as the cells in Alcatraz, which I recently visited.”

Cllr John Beesley said afterwards: “I believe that we are putting more focus on Boscombe than ever before, and that is almost disproportionate to other areas of Bourne-mouth.

“I think for the first time, we have a strategy that is going to serve the people of Boscombe well, but it will take time.”

Harry Seccombe, vice-chair of Boscombe Forum, also said after the meeting: “Cllr John Beesley was pretty reluctant to put a time frame on the regeneration project, and said that it could bring bureaucracy if he put a date on it.”

Harry added that he felt disappointed that many questions did not receive a real answer, and Cllr Beesley’s focus was more on housing, but less on community engagement.

Boscombe Forum chairman, John Browne, also asked Cllr Beesley about the ‘shocking’ Ofsted report into Boscombe schools, and the leader of the council responded that the figures were not current and were actually three years old.

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2:00pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

"“I have found that some of the bedsits in Boscombe aren’t as good as the cells in Alcatraz, which I recently visited.” "

But the council is still handing out the maximum rent possible to the landlords.

Any wonder that landlords continue to seek the type of tenants (drink/drug addicts) who aren't too bothered about this ans will live there .... bringing with them all the consequent problems.

Are the landlords interested in stopping this ?

Are the council bothered ?

Do the tenants care ?

The simply answer is a resounding NO.

Local taxpayers should care, because they are paying for this mess, this high level of deprevation and crime.
"“I have found that some of the bedsits in Boscombe aren’t as good as the cells in Alcatraz, which I recently visited.” " But the council is still handing out the maximum rent possible to the landlords. Any wonder that landlords continue to seek the type of tenants (drink/drug addicts) who aren't too bothered about this ans will live there .... bringing with them all the consequent problems. Are the landlords interested in stopping this ? Are the council bothered ? Do the tenants care ? The simply answer is a resounding NO. Local taxpayers should care, because they are paying for this mess, this high level of deprevation and crime. Bob49

2:13pm Tue 21 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Would he put his job on the line and guarantee it will be better in 6 months time or he will resign
Would he put his job on the line and guarantee it will be better in 6 months time or he will resign kalebmoledirt

2:28pm Tue 21 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

They say where there is a will there is a way. But as far as improving Boscombe and the current Administration is concerned there appears to be no will, in fact quite the opposite is evident. It seems Developers/Landlords are pulling far two many strings inside our Town Hall 'establishment' and the present Boscombe HMO situation suits these types all the way to the Bank.

Boscombe could be turned completely around in less than five years if those in charge wanted to do it - but they don't. Meantime they make sure of a spin headline or two by putting up some more expensive new railings and planting a few bushes at the Crescent........
They say where there is a will there is a way. But as far as improving Boscombe and the current Administration is concerned there appears to be no will, in fact quite the opposite is evident. It seems Developers/Landlords are pulling far two many strings inside our Town Hall 'establishment' and the present Boscombe HMO situation suits these types all the way to the Bank. Boscombe could be turned completely around in less than five years if those in charge wanted to do it - but they don't. Meantime they make sure of a spin headline or two by putting up some more expensive new railings and planting a few bushes at the Crescent........ muscliffman

2:48pm Tue 21 Jan 14

BmthNewshound says...

Cllr John Beesley said afterwards: “I believe that we are putting more focus on Boscombe than ever before, and that is almost disproportionate to other areas of Bournemouth." - Not almost disproportionate, the focus on Boscombe is completely disproportionate.
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"Harry added that he felt disappointed that many questions did not receive a real answer, and Cllr Beesley’s focus was more on housing, but less on community engagement. " - Of course Beesley didn't give real answers, he treats the residents of Bournemouth and his fellow councillors with complete contempt. Beesley doesn't have any interest in community. He is completely obsessed with property development.
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I'd still like to know who has benefitted from the £millions the Council has pumped into Boscombe and who's bank accounts have been given a boost all under the guise of regeneration.
Cllr John Beesley said afterwards: “I believe that we are putting more focus on Boscombe than ever before, and that is almost disproportionate to other areas of Bournemouth." - Not almost disproportionate, the focus on Boscombe is completely disproportionate. . "Harry added that he felt disappointed that many questions did not receive a real answer, and Cllr Beesley’s focus was more on housing, but less on community engagement. " - Of course Beesley didn't give real answers, he treats the residents of Bournemouth and his fellow councillors with complete contempt. Beesley doesn't have any interest in community. He is completely obsessed with property development. . I'd still like to know who has benefitted from the £millions the Council has pumped into Boscombe and who's bank accounts have been given a boost all under the guise of regeneration. BmthNewshound

3:35pm Tue 21 Jan 14

jinglebell says...

I listened to the meeting on the Forum webpage http://www.boscombef
orum.org.uk/forum-me
etings/meeting-minut
es/

It was a grilling alright but sometimes you have to listen really carefully to hear what residents are saying...seems to be a technical issue that the Forum team should sort out.
The most worrying things are
(1) Cllr. Beesley wont share the strategy for regenerating Boscombe other than talking about housing, yet the research the Council paid for stated there are many factors that have to be tackled and housing alone wont work
(2) When he was asked if the Council would provide "time-lines" for achieving various regeneration goals, he was unwilling to do so. Why? His unwillingness implies there is not an overall strategy in place, therefore, goals are not required
(3) He seems very unwilling to listen to the community's concerns or ideas - or the research the Council paid for!! Yet, he said he is intent on working with the community, which is why he was there, and he was willing to meet with anyone and hear their ideas, however, later when he was asked him to agree on record to meet with some people at the meeting, he would not agree.
(4) A resident asked about raising the standard required in HMO's and he also asked what Cllr. Beesley thought about licensing all private rental properties to raise standards, but again all Cllr. Beesley did was avoid answering the questions.
(5) As far as preventing property developers constantly building more tiny 1 bedroomed flats (which adds to Boscombe's problems), he said he couldn't do anything...but he could, other Councils have put regulations in place through the Localism Act ....seems he is not interested in aiding Boscombe...shame, shame, shame and how many millions of £'s of tax payers money are being wasted?
No doubt, residents will have plenty more to ask Cllr. Beesley in the future at their Forum; I can't imagine Cllr. Beesley or the Ward Councillors will get away with spouting political clap trap!
I listened to the meeting on the Forum webpage http://www.boscombef orum.org.uk/forum-me etings/meeting-minut es/ It was a grilling alright but sometimes you have to listen really carefully to hear what residents are saying...seems to be a technical issue that the Forum team should sort out. The most worrying things are (1) Cllr. Beesley wont share the strategy for regenerating Boscombe other than talking about housing, yet the research the Council paid for stated there are many factors that have to be tackled and housing alone wont work (2) When he was asked if the Council would provide "time-lines" for achieving various regeneration goals, he was unwilling to do so. Why? His unwillingness implies there is not an overall strategy in place, therefore, goals are not required (3) He seems very unwilling to listen to the community's concerns or ideas - or the research the Council paid for!! Yet, he said he is intent on working with the community, which is why he was there, and he was willing to meet with anyone and hear their ideas, however, later when he was asked him to agree on record to meet with some people at the meeting, he would not agree. (4) A resident asked about raising the standard required in HMO's and he also asked what Cllr. Beesley thought about licensing all private rental properties to raise standards, but again all Cllr. Beesley did was avoid answering the questions. (5) As far as preventing property developers constantly building more tiny 1 bedroomed flats (which adds to Boscombe's problems), he said he couldn't do anything...but he could, other Councils have put regulations in place through the Localism Act ....seems he is not interested in aiding Boscombe...shame, shame, shame and how many millions of £'s of tax payers money are being wasted? No doubt, residents will have plenty more to ask Cllr. Beesley in the future at their Forum; I can't imagine Cllr. Beesley or the Ward Councillors will get away with spouting political clap trap! jinglebell

6:09pm Tue 21 Jan 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

It;s like the magic roundabout this regeneration.So it's a forty year old issues.The ward has had weak councillors and nobody has ever replace Harry Cutler, MBE.He cared for the people of Boscombe and i never doubted him.Then what has followed has been futile.In all the time i was there the main issue was Housing.Just when is it going to sink in.

With the flexing of the Tory muscle if they succeed in the 2015, welfare will push the area back.

Boscombe applied and failed for the Portas Bid.Lucky one there as one of her shops has gone into liquidation with redundancies.
It's the residents who can turn this around.Provided they have an equal say as they are the experts.They don't need consultants.

However, Breaking News is that Steve and Shane from DWPHousing might be changing their names to 'Ant and Dec' as ITV want to make a programe called 'I'm a Dave Wells Tenant Get Me Out Of Here.
It;s like the magic roundabout this regeneration.So it's a forty year old issues.The ward has had weak councillors and nobody has ever replace Harry Cutler, MBE.He cared for the people of Boscombe and i never doubted him.Then what has followed has been futile.In all the time i was there the main issue was Housing.Just when is it going to sink in. With the flexing of the Tory muscle if they succeed in the 2015, welfare will push the area back. Boscombe applied and failed for the Portas Bid.Lucky one there as one of her shops has gone into liquidation with redundancies. It's the residents who can turn this around.Provided they have an equal say as they are the experts.They don't need consultants. However, Breaking News is that Steve and Shane from DWPHousing might be changing their names to 'Ant and Dec' as ITV want to make a programe called 'I'm a Dave Wells Tenant Get Me Out Of Here. politicaltrainspotter

6:20pm Tue 21 Jan 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Further more there is no Regeneration.Its is purely a 'Buzz Word'. The themes that are being used all came from the Neighbourhood Management Concept and that sank faster than a sandbag off Boscombe Pier.

The Regeneration Office has only just started to pay it rent.Yes, hard up DWP Tenants subsidising the council.So if they didn't have the money to pay the rent.Where's the money for regeneration ?
The Pantomine Dame is not being replaced.We has the opportunity when SRB and NM had money but even though we had the finance the LA was the accountable body and some of the services for example 'Safe and Clean' could not be mainstreamed.Boscomb
e is Boscombe, it has potential.It has people passionate about it's future but i think the reality is that what you have got now will be like it for many years.
Further more there is no Regeneration.Its is purely a 'Buzz Word'. The themes that are being used all came from the Neighbourhood Management Concept and that sank faster than a sandbag off Boscombe Pier. The Regeneration Office has only just started to pay it rent.Yes, hard up DWP Tenants subsidising the council.So if they didn't have the money to pay the rent.Where's the money for regeneration ? The Pantomine Dame is not being replaced.We has the opportunity when SRB and NM had money but even though we had the finance the LA was the accountable body and some of the services for example 'Safe and Clean' could not be mainstreamed.Boscomb e is Boscombe, it has potential.It has people passionate about it's future but i think the reality is that what you have got now will be like it for many years. politicaltrainspotter

11:40pm Tue 21 Jan 14

UrbanCrab says...

What's with the Photo "Bustling Boscombe"?

Since when was 4 people on a high street a "bustle"
What's with the Photo "Bustling Boscombe"? Since when was 4 people on a high street a "bustle" UrbanCrab

10:38am Wed 22 Jan 14

nevernever says...

It seems strange that the council want to buy up HMO`s that are not fit for purpose yet one property in Boscombe recently was granted planning permission . All the residents objected and local councillors and then it went to appeal three times and was upheld ,then all of sudden it was granted mmmmm strange bit of skull duggery me thinks !!!!!!!!!!!!
It seems strange that the council want to buy up HMO`s that are not fit for purpose yet one property in Boscombe recently was granted planning permission . All the residents objected and local councillors and then it went to appeal three times and was upheld ,then all of sudden it was granted mmmmm strange bit of skull duggery me thinks !!!!!!!!!!!! nevernever

5:28pm Wed 22 Jan 14

spotthis says...

Cllr Beesley says "we have a strategy that is going to serve the people of Boscombe well, but it will take time.” Then the chairman asked if we could have more details about the strategy but Mr. Beesley said, no. Then someone else asked for it but the councillor wouldn't give it. What is his problem with this request, only that he has no strategy.
Its been so many years that all this talk about regeneration has gone on, but nothing has actually happened. Even before the current economic situation, businesses in Boscombe were closing because the Council wont attack the route of the problem. What this meeting did, was to expose local politicians lack of genuine care about Boscombe and showed their failure to understand that most of us don't say much but in the end we can vote them out. And what is going on now at the Crescent??
Cllr Beesley says "we have a strategy that is going to serve the people of Boscombe well, but it will take time.” Then the chairman asked if we could have more details about the strategy but Mr. Beesley said, no. Then someone else asked for it but the councillor wouldn't give it. What is his problem with this request, only that he has no strategy. Its been so many years that all this talk about regeneration has gone on, but nothing has actually happened. Even before the current economic situation, businesses in Boscombe were closing because the Council wont attack the route of the problem. What this meeting did, was to expose local politicians lack of genuine care about Boscombe and showed their failure to understand that most of us don't say much but in the end we can vote them out. And what is going on now at the Crescent?? spotthis

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