Councillor calls for update on Bournemouth ice rink plans

Bournemouth Echo: OPERATION: The proposed ice rink complex for Kings Park OPERATION: The proposed ice rink complex for Kings Park

A BOURNEMOUTH councillor is calling for an update on any progress made in bringing a permanent ice rink to the town.

Independent Cllr Ron Whittaker will use the next full council meeting on January 21 to ask when the council might see firm proposals to build an Olympic-sized rink at Kings Park. Last October, councillors were told an unnamed company had expressed an interest in operating a rink but that negotiations were still at a very early stage.

Cllr Whittaker will ask council leader John Beesley how serious their level of interest is and whether, seven years after the council formally resolved to make it a priority to secure a permanent ice rink for the town, 2014 will be “decision year.”

The council has previously held talks with leisure operators Burnham and with AFC Bournemouth but both came to nothing.

Cllr Whittaker’s question also follows the launch of an online petition set up by former Westover Road skaters, calling for Bournemouth to build a permanent facility.

A spokesperson for Bournemouth council said they were committed to working with the private sector to provide a new permanent ice facility at Kings Park.

“We are currently in discussions with an ice rink operator and we remain committed to the provision of a new ice facility in Kings Park. However, at a time when the council’s financies are under severe pressure, we need to ensure that any proposals are economically viable and can be developed and operated without subsidy.”

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7:39am Tue 7 Jan 14

MW Bournemouth says...

Perhaps the council could speak to local residents and ex Westover skaters and ex Westover management staff who can draw from their experience of supporting and running an ice rink they might realise what a viable worthwhile opportunity a permanent ice facility is.
With over 750 signatures on a purely online petition in just over one week, it's about time the council listened to the local people for a change!!
We don't need more cinemas and eating establishments. We need a safe place for people of all ages to learn new skills, develop socially and have fun no matter what the weather!
We've waited long enough!!
Perhaps the council could speak to local residents and ex Westover skaters and ex Westover management staff who can draw from their experience of supporting and running an ice rink they might realise what a viable worthwhile opportunity a permanent ice facility is. With over 750 signatures on a purely online petition in just over one week, it's about time the council listened to the local people for a change!! We don't need more cinemas and eating establishments. We need a safe place for people of all ages to learn new skills, develop socially and have fun no matter what the weather! We've waited long enough!! MW Bournemouth

7:45am Tue 7 Jan 14

djd says...

Great idea. Amend one of the new cinema complexes to include an ice rink instead.
There will be more cinemas than needed if they all come to fruition.
Speak to Mr Osborn, he likes amending the plans for the pavilion site.
Great idea. Amend one of the new cinema complexes to include an ice rink instead. There will be more cinemas than needed if they all come to fruition. Speak to Mr Osborn, he likes amending the plans for the pavilion site. djd

8:51am Tue 7 Jan 14

Topographic says...

It is with great interest the renewed speculation on the possibility of an ice rink.
In an age of many requiring more physical activty an ice rink is a must.
It rains a lot in winter. What can a family do in wet weather? Well very little. The old imax site would be a possible location or the old winter gardens site.
Central locality is vital for transport connections and hotels etc.
It is with great interest the renewed speculation on the possibility of an ice rink. In an age of many requiring more physical activty an ice rink is a must. It rains a lot in winter. What can a family do in wet weather? Well very little. The old imax site would be a possible location or the old winter gardens site. Central locality is vital for transport connections and hotels etc. Topographic

9:32am Tue 7 Jan 14

poolebob says...

It's evident that an Ice Rink is not viable otherwise the private sector would have built one. So the Council would end up subsidising it.
Why should Bournemouth residents be expected to pay for a facility most of them wouldn't use.
Get real.
It's evident that an Ice Rink is not viable otherwise the private sector would have built one. So the Council would end up subsidising it. Why should Bournemouth residents be expected to pay for a facility most of them wouldn't use. Get real. poolebob

9:45am Tue 7 Jan 14

BIGTONE says...

An update on any progress.....?

Behave......

This is BBC we're talking about here.
An update on any progress.....? Behave...... This is BBC we're talking about here. BIGTONE

10:04am Tue 7 Jan 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Ice rink ! I think that the last thing Bournemouth councillors would want.With the local election in 2015, they're all skating on thin ice.
Ice rink ! I think that the last thing Bournemouth councillors would want.With the local election in 2015, they're all skating on thin ice. politicaltrainspotter

10:21am Tue 7 Jan 14

Ruwari says...

Planning Permission is APPROVED for an Olympic Ice Stadium at Kings Park. Problem is finding developers with the money. AFC Bournemouth pulled out in October 2013!!! The need to find a developer is paramount now, as planning will not stay in place forever. Possibility of Lottery Funding but still need a developer. A case of who you know not what you know!!! Local companies and businessman need to be approached.
Planning Permission is APPROVED for an Olympic Ice Stadium at Kings Park. Problem is finding developers with the money. AFC Bournemouth pulled out in October 2013!!! The need to find a developer is paramount now, as planning will not stay in place forever. Possibility of Lottery Funding but still need a developer. A case of who you know not what you know!!! Local companies and businessman need to be approached. Ruwari

10:27am Tue 7 Jan 14

BOURNE RED says...

Build it at the the old winter gardens site. Not green land!
Build it at the the old winter gardens site. Not green land! BOURNE RED

10:47am Tue 7 Jan 14

Davepix says...

I have in a professional role visited nearly every Ice Rink in the UK and many in Europe and the rest of the world.
An Olympic sized rink is 60m x 30m, similar to Basingstoke and Bracknell, there are also 56m x 26m as per Slough, and 47m x 23m eg Ryde and Gosport.
The money is made from evening public skating, and a successful
Ice Hockey team which doesn't happen easily or overnight, daytime ice time is difficult to fill, let alone make money from.
A smaller size rink is cheaper to build and cheaper to run and maintain.
There is no need for an Olympic sized rink with 4000 seats when wil it be full?
Kings Park is a good location but a rink on the outskirts of the area would be just as popular, such as an Industrial estate.
Hope it happens but I am very doubtful.
I have in a professional role visited nearly every Ice Rink in the UK and many in Europe and the rest of the world. An Olympic sized rink is 60m x 30m, similar to Basingstoke and Bracknell, there are also 56m x 26m as per Slough, and 47m x 23m eg Ryde and Gosport. The money is made from evening public skating, and a successful Ice Hockey team which doesn't happen easily or overnight, daytime ice time is difficult to fill, let alone make money from. A smaller size rink is cheaper to build and cheaper to run and maintain. There is no need for an Olympic sized rink with 4000 seats when wil it be full? Kings Park is a good location but a rink on the outskirts of the area would be just as popular, such as an Industrial estate. Hope it happens but I am very doubtful. Davepix

11:24am Tue 7 Jan 14

Pawnstrar says...

I know it's not the same, but Fareham has just had an indoor roller hockey rink open on the industrial estate just off the M27. It's in an old warehouse unit and they have fitted a full size hockey rink with a plastic tiled floor, similar to what the BIC had for their Roller Coast rink during the summer. The biggest difficulty with an ice rink is the cost of keeping the ice frozen. It makes it very expensive for families to attend. The temporary rinks are charging £8.50 for around and hour and a half skating. Where as you can roller skate locally for around £4.50 for 2 hours plus at local venues
Ice skating in not environmentally friendly.
Bournemouth council should get in touch with Solent Arena in Fareham to go over the set up costs. Also Prevail Skate house is Poole have made an old warehouse into a well used venue. Plenty of skating going on in the area if folks care to make an effort to find out what's going on
I know it's not the same, but Fareham has just had an indoor roller hockey rink open on the industrial estate just off the M27. It's in an old warehouse unit and they have fitted a full size hockey rink with a plastic tiled floor, similar to what the BIC had for their Roller Coast rink during the summer. The biggest difficulty with an ice rink is the cost of keeping the ice frozen. It makes it very expensive for families to attend. The temporary rinks are charging £8.50 for around and hour and a half skating. Where as you can roller skate locally for around £4.50 for 2 hours plus at local venues Ice skating in not environmentally friendly. Bournemouth council should get in touch with Solent Arena in Fareham to go over the set up costs. Also Prevail Skate house is Poole have made an old warehouse into a well used venue. Plenty of skating going on in the area if folks care to make an effort to find out what's going on Pawnstrar

12:18pm Tue 7 Jan 14

BmthNewshound says...

What is it with this obsession about ice rinks in Bournemouth ? Towns and cities much larger than Bournemouth don't have an ice rink so is it actually a viable proposition.
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The last thing Bournemouth needs is yet another white elephant
What is it with this obsession about ice rinks in Bournemouth ? Towns and cities much larger than Bournemouth don't have an ice rink so is it actually a viable proposition. . The last thing Bournemouth needs is yet another white elephant BmthNewshound

12:44pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Baywolf says...

Kings Park? Surely any councillor with a brain would see the sense in building it in the town centre. It's crying out for an all family indoor attraction to compliment the cinemas and eateries..be it fast food or otherwise, it will enhance and attract hotel bookings as children can go somewhere in town, putting it at Kings Park means busses and keep the footfall out of the town centre..not good for what shops we do have. With the fiasco of the Pavillion and Bus Station development surely a more sane aproach is to get the Pavillion development to change to an indoor ice rink now that the cinema chain has pulled out.
Kings Park? Surely any councillor with a brain would see the sense in building it in the town centre. It's crying out for an all family indoor attraction to compliment the cinemas and eateries..be it fast food or otherwise, it will enhance and attract hotel bookings as children can go somewhere in town, putting it at Kings Park means busses and keep the footfall out of the town centre..not good for what shops we do have. With the fiasco of the Pavillion and Bus Station development surely a more sane aproach is to get the Pavillion development to change to an indoor ice rink now that the cinema chain has pulled out. Baywolf

2:30pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Pawnstrar says...

An ice rink costs a fortune to run. Electricity to power the refrigeration plant. 24 hours a day. Also the ice resurfacing machines tend to run on propane gas as well, so more expense.
A multi use venue for all types of skating would be a much better bet. A small ice rink and a large wooden floor for roller skate based sports. Roller skating is growing in popularity, just look at how many roller disco events and Roller Derby leagues that are popping up around the country.
The UK has several of the top Roller Derby teams in the world. And Dorset has it's own team, the Dorset Roller Girls
Dorset needs a skating rink, but not ice skating
An ice rink costs a fortune to run. Electricity to power the refrigeration plant. 24 hours a day. Also the ice resurfacing machines tend to run on propane gas as well, so more expense. A multi use venue for all types of skating would be a much better bet. A small ice rink and a large wooden floor for roller skate based sports. Roller skating is growing in popularity, just look at how many roller disco events and Roller Derby leagues that are popping up around the country. The UK has several of the top Roller Derby teams in the world. And Dorset has it's own team, the Dorset Roller Girls Dorset needs a skating rink, but not ice skating Pawnstrar

2:38pm Tue 7 Jan 14

pete woodley says...

Davepix wrote:
I have in a professional role visited nearly every Ice Rink in the UK and many in Europe and the rest of the world.
An Olympic sized rink is 60m x 30m, similar to Basingstoke and Bracknell, there are also 56m x 26m as per Slough, and 47m x 23m eg Ryde and Gosport.
The money is made from evening public skating, and a successful
Ice Hockey team which doesn't happen easily or overnight, daytime ice time is difficult to fill, let alone make money from.
A smaller size rink is cheaper to build and cheaper to run and maintain.
There is no need for an Olympic sized rink with 4000 seats when wil it be full?
Kings Park is a good location but a rink on the outskirts of the area would be just as popular, such as an Industrial estate.
Hope it happens but I am very doubtful.
Keep plugging, you will get your wish one day,Dave,Happy new year.
[quote][p][bold]Davepix[/bold] wrote: I have in a professional role visited nearly every Ice Rink in the UK and many in Europe and the rest of the world. An Olympic sized rink is 60m x 30m, similar to Basingstoke and Bracknell, there are also 56m x 26m as per Slough, and 47m x 23m eg Ryde and Gosport. The money is made from evening public skating, and a successful Ice Hockey team which doesn't happen easily or overnight, daytime ice time is difficult to fill, let alone make money from. A smaller size rink is cheaper to build and cheaper to run and maintain. There is no need for an Olympic sized rink with 4000 seats when wil it be full? Kings Park is a good location but a rink on the outskirts of the area would be just as popular, such as an Industrial estate. Hope it happens but I am very doubtful.[/p][/quote]Keep plugging, you will get your wish one day,Dave,Happy new year. pete woodley

3:50pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Mikey3000 says...

I think an ice skating rink where the Imax used to be would be amazing - imagine skating whilst looking out to see - how cool (no pun intended) would that be?
I think an ice skating rink where the Imax used to be would be amazing - imagine skating whilst looking out to see - how cool (no pun intended) would that be? Mikey3000

6:07pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Ruwari says...

PARK AND RIDE NEEDED IN BOURNEMOUTH. Out of Kings Park. Leisure Park for all. Park and Ride into Castle Point and Town Centre etc. Look at Basingstoke. Works very well. Park and Ride by Ice Rink Bowling Alley etc. Into town. Why are people so negative on improving and adding to what we already have.
The Westover Ice Rink was a very popular place. Perhaps the writers of some comments are too young to remember!!!
PARK AND RIDE NEEDED IN BOURNEMOUTH. Out of Kings Park. Leisure Park for all. Park and Ride into Castle Point and Town Centre etc. Look at Basingstoke. Works very well. Park and Ride by Ice Rink Bowling Alley etc. Into town. Why are people so negative on improving and adding to what we already have. The Westover Ice Rink was a very popular place. Perhaps the writers of some comments are too young to remember!!! Ruwari

7:22pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Bob49 says...

Why not accept Ron, you've been had/used. There never was any intent to built an ice rink in Kings Park, it was merely a ruse to allow a change in planning permission and for the council to snatch another part of public owned land to be handed over soon to some 'favoured' developer.

This was known before it was put to the vote and well seen at the vote when a councillor tried to have the vote taken BEFORE any representations were allowed. He knew it was a formality but was not bright enough to know that the council are suppose to go through the charade of open debate - irrespective of what has been agreed behind closed doors.

Sadly there are still folk who will willingly see any part of the town handed over to private developers if a few shiney trinkets are offered up in exchange - offered up, but not given once the land is handed over. Or perhaps there is a working reef and 90 new jobs with 10,000 surf visits per year. Or maybe the council haven't spent over £10m buying up the Imax site, only to reveal that the view was another ruse and it is to be 'comprehensively developed' along with the adjacent car park

Just as numerous car parks are now covered in hundreds of box like flats whilst the council pretend to be concerned about the dying town centre (lack of parking ?)

If anyone is still uncertain of what a scam the KIngs Park Ice Rink was I suggest they take a look at the plans - totally unfeasible and a cheap joke at best..

Which would be an apt description of what is happening to our town .... only it ain't cheap and someone is making a lot of money out of making off with public assets.
Why not accept Ron, you've been had/used. There never was any intent to built an ice rink in Kings Park, it was merely a ruse to allow a change in planning permission and for the council to snatch another part of public owned land to be handed over soon to some 'favoured' developer. This was known before it was put to the vote and well seen at the vote when a councillor tried to have the vote taken BEFORE any representations were allowed. He knew it was a formality but was not bright enough to know that the council are suppose to go through the charade of open debate - irrespective of what has been agreed behind closed doors. Sadly there are still folk who will willingly see any part of the town handed over to private developers if a few shiney trinkets are offered up in exchange - offered up, but not given once the land is handed over. Or perhaps there is a working reef and 90 new jobs with 10,000 surf visits per year. Or maybe the council haven't spent over £10m buying up the Imax site, only to reveal that the view was another ruse and it is to be 'comprehensively developed' along with the adjacent car park Just as numerous car parks are now covered in hundreds of box like flats whilst the council pretend to be concerned about the dying town centre (lack of parking ?) If anyone is still uncertain of what a scam the KIngs Park Ice Rink was I suggest they take a look at the plans - totally unfeasible and a cheap joke at best.. Which would be an apt description of what is happening to our town .... only it ain't cheap and someone is making a lot of money out of making off with public assets. Bob49

8:28pm Tue 7 Jan 14

bally75 says...

The idea of building it in an already but warehouse or an large disused retail unit is ideal!!!! And of course it doesn't need to be Olympic size most rinks in the usa and Canada aren't!!!!! The build cost of a rink of this sort shouldn't be more than £1 million to fit out and open to a high standard standard cheap at less than half the cost of the surf reef and probably not far from the cost of demolition of the imax. Come on bbc please this is common sense!!
The idea of building it in an already but warehouse or an large disused retail unit is ideal!!!! And of course it doesn't need to be Olympic size most rinks in the usa and Canada aren't!!!!! The build cost of a rink of this sort shouldn't be more than £1 million to fit out and open to a high standard standard cheap at less than half the cost of the surf reef and probably not far from the cost of demolition of the imax. Come on bbc please this is common sense!! bally75

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