Dorset firefighters joining strike over Christmas as row over pensions escalates

Bournemouth Echo: Dorset firefighters joining strike over Christmas as row over pensions escalates Dorset firefighters joining strike over Christmas as row over pensions escalates

DORSET firefighters will be supporting national strike action during Christmas Eve and New Year’s Eve, as the row over pensions escalates.

Karen Adams, Dorset Fire Brigades Union (FBU) secretary, said members had been forced into strike action because the government continues to avoid any talks, despite claiming it is negotiating.

Strikes will take place between 7pm and midnight on Christmas Eve; between 6.30pm, New Year’s Eve, and 12.30am, New Year’s Day; and between 6.30-8.30am, January 3.

The FBU is angry the government has offered to only release full pensions to firefighters when they reach 60 years old.

FBU general secretary Matt Wrack said: “Firefighters provide a first-class standard of service 365-days-a-year. These strikes will remind government just how reliant they are on our members’ commitment and flexibility.

“However, there should be no need for industrial action, and it’s absurd that firefighters’ concerns over pensions have not been addressed already.

“The government must stop claiming they are negotiating when they have refused to talk for two months and insist on forcing through proposals that are unaffordable, unworkable and unfair.”

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12:26pm Wed 18 Dec 13

That's Bonkers! says...

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"FBU general secretary Matt Wrack said: “Firefighters provide a first-class standard of service 365-days-a-year. "

If I only had one day off every 4 years (366 in a Leap Year), I'd go on strike too!
Quote "FBU general secretary Matt Wrack said: “Firefighters provide a first-class standard of service 365-days-a-year. " If I only had one day off every 4 years (366 in a Leap Year), I'd go on strike too! That's Bonkers!

12:41pm Wed 18 Dec 13

norwood70 says...

So yet again FBU attempt to hold the rest of the country to ransom with their continued strike action. Everyone agrees that they do a fantastic, at times heroic, job but they shouldn’t be treated as a "special case". The fact is people are living longer, and working conditions are changing to adapt to this.
So yet again FBU attempt to hold the rest of the country to ransom with their continued strike action. Everyone agrees that they do a fantastic, at times heroic, job but they shouldn’t be treated as a "special case". The fact is people are living longer, and working conditions are changing to adapt to this. norwood70

1:01pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Poole Pirate says...

Yawn, yawn, the fire service is planning to stike again, no doubt loosing any residual support it was just about managing to cling on to !. Nice that they all get to spend Christmas eve and New-Year's eve with their families though - if only all the doctors and nurses at our overworked hospitals had the same luxury. Fortunately they're made of sterner stuff. Sometimes it seems to me that the FBU lives in a different world to the rest of us - smell the coffee chaps, in case you hadn't noticed, we're all living longer, we're just emerging from a rather huge recession, and all of our retirement ages are being incereased. We don't like it, we never signed up to it, but we crack on for the good of our country. If life really is that bad in the fire service, why not try a job in the real world - I can tell you for certain that your vacant positions wouldn't be vacant for very long - I wonder why !!!!.
Yawn, yawn, the fire service is planning to stike again, no doubt loosing any residual support it was just about managing to cling on to !. Nice that they all get to spend Christmas eve and New-Year's eve with their families though - if only all the doctors and nurses at our overworked hospitals had the same luxury. Fortunately they're made of sterner stuff. Sometimes it seems to me that the FBU lives in a different world to the rest of us - smell the coffee chaps, in case you hadn't noticed, we're all living longer, we're just emerging from a rather huge recession, and all of our retirement ages are being incereased. We don't like it, we never signed up to it, but we crack on for the good of our country. If life really is that bad in the fire service, why not try a job in the real world - I can tell you for certain that your vacant positions wouldn't be vacant for very long - I wonder why !!!!. Poole Pirate

1:38pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Abc1970 says...

Oh this is getting a bit silly and a bit boring now, I don't think anybody is really that interested any more. The FBU have to accept that changes to pensions are are affecting everybody, everywhere and I'm afraid they are no different. Let's face it, out of the 3 emergency services, they have it the easiest by far. Their call outs are decreasing while they remain fully staffed, however from what I understand call outs for police and ambulances are increasing at an unprecedented rate while front line numbers are being slashed, and then they are being criticised in the press for not doing a good enough job. I only found out through social media the other day that front line ambulance staff, paramedics and the like will have to retire at 68. I find that for more alarming than a fireman retiring at 60. I bet those paramedics would jump at the chance to retire at 60 but you don't see them going on strike, in fact I bet there are many millions of people doing physically demanding jobs who would love the opportunity to retire at 60 but don't even have the option.
Oh this is getting a bit silly and a bit boring now, I don't think anybody is really that interested any more. The FBU have to accept that changes to pensions are are affecting everybody, everywhere and I'm afraid they are no different. Let's face it, out of the 3 emergency services, they have it the easiest by far. Their call outs are decreasing while they remain fully staffed, however from what I understand call outs for police and ambulances are increasing at an unprecedented rate while front line numbers are being slashed, and then they are being criticised in the press for not doing a good enough job. I only found out through social media the other day that front line ambulance staff, paramedics and the like will have to retire at 68. I find that for more alarming than a fireman retiring at 60. I bet those paramedics would jump at the chance to retire at 60 but you don't see them going on strike, in fact I bet there are many millions of people doing physically demanding jobs who would love the opportunity to retire at 60 but don't even have the option. Abc1970

1:50pm Wed 18 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

This industrial action has become very petulant, blatantly political and boring, it is also increasingly regarded as unreasonable - not a good mix when you need the public's sympathy.
This industrial action has become very petulant, blatantly political and boring, it is also increasingly regarded as unreasonable - not a good mix when you need the public's sympathy. muscliffman

4:51pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Hickery says...

Nothing at all to do with wanting Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve off I'm sure. Happy New Year boys and girls. Not.
And if I'm not mistaken, cover is provided by the 'Retained' fire fighters, who are not involved in this dispute. So unlucky for them on 24th & 31st, when extra manpower will no doubt be demanded from their number.
Nothing at all to do with wanting Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve off I'm sure. Happy New Year boys and girls. Not. And if I'm not mistaken, cover is provided by the 'Retained' fire fighters, who are not involved in this dispute. So unlucky for them on 24th & 31st, when extra manpower will no doubt be demanded from their number. Hickery

7:34pm Wed 18 Dec 13

dustbindanny says...

It,s funny that you never hear of any these ' Firemen' resigning because they don't like there working conditions?
It,s funny that you never hear of any these ' Firemen' resigning because they don't like there working conditions? dustbindanny

10:14pm Wed 18 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

dustbindanny wrote:
It,s funny that you never hear of any these ' Firemen' resigning because they don't like there working conditions?
You mean just like striking teacher's and useless Hospital executives?
[quote][p][bold]dustbindanny[/bold] wrote: It,s funny that you never hear of any these ' Firemen' resigning because they don't like there working conditions?[/p][/quote]You mean just like striking teacher's and useless Hospital executives? muscliffman

9:09am Thu 19 Dec 13

chicken_madras says...

I would have respoect for these Full Time fire fighters if they didnt turn against the retained fire fighters! They have been critisisng the retained fire fighters for staying on duty, while they strike! Do they expect no one at all to be available if a fire starts?
I would have respoect for these Full Time fire fighters if they didnt turn against the retained fire fighters! They have been critisisng the retained fire fighters for staying on duty, while they strike! Do they expect no one at all to be available if a fire starts? chicken_madras

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