No railway crossing this year after tenders come back more than double council budget

DASHED: How the crossing could have looked

DASHED: How the crossing could have looked

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HOPES have been dashed that a long awaited railway crossing bridge would be built in Hamworthy this year.

Tenders came back at £1million and £1.3m for a pedestrian bridge across the little-used railway line, for which Borough of Poole has a budget of £600,000.

“I’m disappointed,” said Pat Bullock, chairman of the Friends of Hamworthy Park.

“A lot of people have been really looking forward to having that bridge and getting the little kiddies off the main road.”

Poole Council has been attempting to provide a rail crossing to Hamworthy Park since the Harbour Reach development was built in 2007 – and is hopeful it will be built next year.

Julian McLaughlin, head of transportation services said they had to comply with Network Rail’s list of companies for the tender.

However they now have to work with freight operator DB Schenker, who had leased the Hamworthy branch lines for 125 years and restrictions were less tight.

“We are really disappointed that the scheme through this first tender has been unaffordable,” he said.

However he was hopeful that the re-tender to a greater number of companies, would be successful.

Officers will be looking at ways of cutting down the cost, which could include reducing or removing lighting.

“All we want is a simple crossing – a second hand bridge, painted up to look nice would do,” said Pat.

Residents were hopeful the bridge across the railway line to the port would be built after it received planning permission in October last year.

Ward member Cllr Mike White said: “This is a further disappointment.

“But I think it is very much to the credit of the council that we are pressing ahead with this and have dedicated funds to this project ahead of developer funding coming from the main regeneration sites.”

Cllr Charmaine Parkinson, ward member said: “I trust that this is the last delay that residents will be subjected to and I look forward to finally seeing the bridge operational next year.”

Tender process

The budget includes a loan through Dorset LEPs Growing Places Fund.

The tender process has begun and new tenders will be sought over 12 weeks from September to November.

The contract could be awarded in November.

Work could begin on site in April 2015 with the bridge completed and open in August next year.

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8:04am Wed 16 Jul 14

shouldknowbetter says...

Surely the need for this bridge has been generated by the Harbour Reach developments, should the developer not be made to pay for it?
Surely the need for this bridge has been generated by the Harbour Reach developments, should the developer not be made to pay for it? shouldknowbetter
  • Score: 8

8:14am Wed 16 Jul 14

uvox44 says...

um there is a perfectly good level crossing that is perfectly safe nearby- why on earth spend that sort of money on a bridge over a railway line that is hardly ever used?! Surely that money would be better spent where it is REALLY needed? If people are too lazy to walk around via the level crossing then that is their fault!
um there is a perfectly good level crossing that is perfectly safe nearby- why on earth spend that sort of money on a bridge over a railway line that is hardly ever used?! Surely that money would be better spent where it is REALLY needed? If people are too lazy to walk around via the level crossing then that is their fault! uvox44
  • Score: 12

8:51am Wed 16 Jul 14

504gld says...

Curious, what exactly are Deutsche Bahn planning to do with the Hamworthy branch as it's been effectively disconnected from the Port for some time. 125 Years is a long time..... More like the Echo have missed the 'investigation' in the story for the people of Poole completely. Did the quote for this bridge include the illuminated "Welcome" sign?
Curious, what exactly are Deutsche Bahn planning to do with the Hamworthy branch as it's been effectively disconnected from the Port for some time. 125 Years is a long time..... More like the Echo have missed the 'investigation' in the story for the people of Poole completely. Did the quote for this bridge include the illuminated "Welcome" sign? 504gld
  • Score: 6

9:03am Wed 16 Jul 14

Getridofthetories says...

shouldknowbetter wrote:
Surely the need for this bridge has been generated by the Harbour Reach developments, should the developer not be made to pay for it?
Your nickname is quite correct, its not your fault you dont know better, because your not told what has happened: This News article does not reflect the correct status of this bridge. Harbour Reach Residents paid 125k towards this Bridge. That money has been wasted by the Council insisting on a level crossing for the past 10 years. Would any parent let their child cross a railway line via a level crossing to a park for their recreation which they have been denied of by mass housing instaed of green open space? And now the Council has borrowed another 625k to build this bridge which will have to be paid back. Its not the Faut of the Residents nor the Developer. The fault lies closer to home. It would be good if the newspaper reported what really has happened on this footbridge matter
[quote][p][bold]shouldknowbetter[/bold] wrote: Surely the need for this bridge has been generated by the Harbour Reach developments, should the developer not be made to pay for it?[/p][/quote]Your nickname is quite correct, its not your fault you dont know better, because your not told what has happened: This News article does not reflect the correct status of this bridge. Harbour Reach Residents paid 125k towards this Bridge. That money has been wasted by the Council insisting on a level crossing for the past 10 years. Would any parent let their child cross a railway line via a level crossing to a park for their recreation which they have been denied of by mass housing instaed of green open space? And now the Council has borrowed another 625k to build this bridge which will have to be paid back. Its not the Faut of the Residents nor the Developer. The fault lies closer to home. It would be good if the newspaper reported what really has happened on this footbridge matter Getridofthetories
  • Score: -1

9:07am Wed 16 Jul 14

Getridofthetories says...

504gld wrote:
Curious, what exactly are Deutsche Bahn planning to do with the Hamworthy branch as it's been effectively disconnected from the Port for some time. 125 Years is a long time..... More like the Echo have missed the 'investigation' in the story for the people of Poole completely. Did the quote for this bridge include the illuminated "Welcome" sign?
here here my friend :-)
[quote][p][bold]504gld[/bold] wrote: Curious, what exactly are Deutsche Bahn planning to do with the Hamworthy branch as it's been effectively disconnected from the Port for some time. 125 Years is a long time..... More like the Echo have missed the 'investigation' in the story for the people of Poole completely. Did the quote for this bridge include the illuminated "Welcome" sign?[/p][/quote]here here my friend :-) Getridofthetories
  • Score: 5

9:19am Wed 16 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

So, they can afford the thick end of £10M for a bridge that isn't really necessary and always breaks, but not a tenth of that for a sensible design for pedestrians that won't refuse to raise or lower with monotonous regularity? I guess their favourite contractors wouldn't tender for it....
So, they can afford the thick end of £10M for a bridge that isn't really necessary and always breaks, but not a tenth of that for a sensible design for pedestrians that won't refuse to raise or lower with monotonous regularity? I guess their favourite contractors wouldn't tender for it.... speedy231278
  • Score: 5

9:56am Wed 16 Jul 14

Victor_Meldrew_Lives! says...

1st Rule of submitting a quote to local government.
Double the price you charge to anyone else.
1st Rule of submitting a quote to local government. Double the price you charge to anyone else. Victor_Meldrew_Lives!
  • Score: 5

9:57am Wed 16 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

uvox44 wrote:
um there is a perfectly good level crossing that is perfectly safe nearby- why on earth spend that sort of money on a bridge over a railway line that is hardly ever used?! Surely that money would be better spent where it is REALLY needed? If people are too lazy to walk around via the level crossing then that is their fault!
Why not spend all this money on a crossing that is hardly used, this is no different to the thousands being spent on cycle lanes in castle lane that will hardly be used, seems to me that councils are very apt on spending vast sums of money that they haven't got on changes that hardly anyone will use.
[quote][p][bold]uvox44[/bold] wrote: um there is a perfectly good level crossing that is perfectly safe nearby- why on earth spend that sort of money on a bridge over a railway line that is hardly ever used?! Surely that money would be better spent where it is REALLY needed? If people are too lazy to walk around via the level crossing then that is their fault![/p][/quote]Why not spend all this money on a crossing that is hardly used, this is no different to the thousands being spent on cycle lanes in castle lane that will hardly be used, seems to me that councils are very apt on spending vast sums of money that they haven't got on changes that hardly anyone will use. Hessenford
  • Score: 6

10:01am Wed 16 Jul 14

Getridofthetories says...

speedy231278 wrote:
So, they can afford the thick end of £10M for a bridge that isn't really necessary and always breaks, but not a tenth of that for a sensible design for pedestrians that won't refuse to raise or lower with monotonous regularity? I guess their favourite contractors wouldn't tender for it....
again, here here my friend, well said
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: So, they can afford the thick end of £10M for a bridge that isn't really necessary and always breaks, but not a tenth of that for a sensible design for pedestrians that won't refuse to raise or lower with monotonous regularity? I guess their favourite contractors wouldn't tender for it....[/p][/quote]again, here here my friend, well said Getridofthetories
  • Score: 1

12:51pm Wed 16 Jul 14

SympatheticSam says...

Well done Bournemouth Council for once. Don't bow down to a tiny bunch of moaning Minnies.
Well done Bournemouth Council for once. Don't bow down to a tiny bunch of moaning Minnies. SympatheticSam
  • Score: -6

1:47pm Wed 16 Jul 14

twynhamob says...

SympatheticSam wrote:
Well done Bournemouth Council for once. Don't bow down to a tiny bunch of moaning Minnies.
Easy for Bournemouth council to not bow down this time, it has nothing to do with them, they don't run Poole.
[quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: Well done Bournemouth Council for once. Don't bow down to a tiny bunch of moaning Minnies.[/p][/quote]Easy for Bournemouth council to not bow down this time, it has nothing to do with them, they don't run Poole. twynhamob
  • Score: 6

1:56pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Numpto says...

We have waited 8 years for a bridge over an unused Railway line thousands have been spent discussing it and still no bridge. Simply you cannot trust anyone on the council to provide. Farsical on so many levels!!!
We have waited 8 years for a bridge over an unused Railway line thousands have been spent discussing it and still no bridge. Simply you cannot trust anyone on the council to provide. Farsical on so many levels!!! Numpto
  • Score: 1

2:05pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Ebb Tide says...

Getridofthetories wrote:
shouldknowbetter wrote:
Surely the need for this bridge has been generated by the Harbour Reach developments, should the developer not be made to pay for it?
Your nickname is quite correct, its not your fault you dont know better, because your not told what has happened: This News article does not reflect the correct status of this bridge. Harbour Reach Residents paid 125k towards this Bridge. That money has been wasted by the Council insisting on a level crossing for the past 10 years. Would any parent let their child cross a railway line via a level crossing to a park for their recreation which they have been denied of by mass housing instaed of green open space? And now the Council has borrowed another 625k to build this bridge which will have to be paid back. Its not the Faut of the Residents nor the Developer. The fault lies closer to home. It would be good if the newspaper reported what really has happened on this footbridge matter
Surely the Meja will get the story for us soon. The Council have been pressed for a safe and legal crossing over the line that the LEP wishes to ensure is developed since the ealy 1990s.

Temporary arrangements are prohibited, adjacent residents bought properties under false impressions, parents and children risk life and limb evry day when using the narrow pavements on the Blandford Road, the Borough cannot employ staff capable of managing the risks to progress on the project and Councillors (apart from the latest Mayor) have not expressed concern over the ineffectiveness of those that have spent so much money for nothing physical to meet the need expressed so lomg ago to improve access between Poole and Hamworthy.

No doubt we will hear much more about this ridiculous approach to improving the safe and legal access by the public to the most amazing but most neglected harbourside park within our Borough.

Perhaps the publicity will wake up the Councillors to their corporate responsibiulities to develop and maintain all our parks ? But then probably not !! It must be good to be able to ignore abuse and/or neglect of power and feel no guilt..

Canl we change our Councillors - yes we can !!
[quote][p][bold]Getridofthetories[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shouldknowbetter[/bold] wrote: Surely the need for this bridge has been generated by the Harbour Reach developments, should the developer not be made to pay for it?[/p][/quote]Your nickname is quite correct, its not your fault you dont know better, because your not told what has happened: This News article does not reflect the correct status of this bridge. Harbour Reach Residents paid 125k towards this Bridge. That money has been wasted by the Council insisting on a level crossing for the past 10 years. Would any parent let their child cross a railway line via a level crossing to a park for their recreation which they have been denied of by mass housing instaed of green open space? And now the Council has borrowed another 625k to build this bridge which will have to be paid back. Its not the Faut of the Residents nor the Developer. The fault lies closer to home. It would be good if the newspaper reported what really has happened on this footbridge matter[/p][/quote]Surely the Meja will get the story for us soon. The Council have been pressed for a safe and legal crossing over the line that the LEP wishes to ensure is developed since the ealy 1990s. Temporary arrangements are prohibited, adjacent residents bought properties under false impressions, parents and children risk life and limb evry day when using the narrow pavements on the Blandford Road, the Borough cannot employ staff capable of managing the risks to progress on the project and Councillors (apart from the latest Mayor) have not expressed concern over the ineffectiveness of those that have spent so much money for nothing physical to meet the need expressed so lomg ago to improve access between Poole and Hamworthy. No doubt we will hear much more about this ridiculous approach to improving the safe and legal access by the public to the most amazing but most neglected harbourside park within our Borough. Perhaps the publicity will wake up the Councillors to their corporate responsibiulities to develop and maintain all our parks ? But then probably not !! It must be good to be able to ignore abuse and/or neglect of power and feel no guilt.. Canl we change our Councillors - yes we can !! Ebb Tide
  • Score: 2

2:22pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

Numpto wrote:
We have waited 8 years for a bridge over an unused Railway line thousands have been spent discussing it and still no bridge. Simply you cannot trust anyone on the council to provide. Farsical on so many levels!!!
If it is an unused railway line then why do you need a bridge, surely a gate will do ?
[quote][p][bold]Numpto[/bold] wrote: We have waited 8 years for a bridge over an unused Railway line thousands have been spent discussing it and still no bridge. Simply you cannot trust anyone on the council to provide. Farsical on so many levels!!![/p][/quote]If it is an unused railway line then why do you need a bridge, surely a gate will do ? Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: 0

2:53pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Ebb Tide says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
Numpto wrote:
We have waited 8 years for a bridge over an unused Railway line thousands have been spent discussing it and still no bridge. Simply you cannot trust anyone on the council to provide. Farsical on so many levels!!!
If it is an unused railway line then why do you need a bridge, surely a gate will do ?
Talk to the LEP please. I know they are not so accountable as they should be but they need the line to be kept open and possibly developed, it is understood.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Numpto[/bold] wrote: We have waited 8 years for a bridge over an unused Railway line thousands have been spent discussing it and still no bridge. Simply you cannot trust anyone on the council to provide. Farsical on so many levels!!![/p][/quote]If it is an unused railway line then why do you need a bridge, surely a gate will do ?[/p][/quote]Talk to the LEP please. I know they are not so accountable as they should be but they need the line to be kept open and possibly developed, it is understood. Ebb Tide
  • Score: 0

7:48pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Reader Echo says...

uvox44 wrote:
um there is a perfectly good level crossing that is perfectly safe nearby- why on earth spend that sort of money on a bridge over a railway line that is hardly ever used?! Surely that money would be better spent where it is REALLY needed? If people are too lazy to walk around via the level crossing then that is their fault!
Being lazy and sat in your armchair writing ignorant manifestations of stupidity has come back to bite you and your comment voters in the rear I'm afraid.

Let me explain my friend, the level crossing in question only provides access to the ferry port. There is no public right of way for several hundred metres across the aforementioned land to Hamworthy Park.

Perhaps in the future you should leave your comments to people of a higher intellect, or, at least to someone that knows how to use Google maps.
[quote][p][bold]uvox44[/bold] wrote: um there is a perfectly good level crossing that is perfectly safe nearby- why on earth spend that sort of money on a bridge over a railway line that is hardly ever used?! Surely that money would be better spent where it is REALLY needed? If people are too lazy to walk around via the level crossing then that is their fault![/p][/quote]Being lazy and sat in your armchair writing ignorant manifestations of stupidity has come back to bite you and your comment voters in the rear I'm afraid. Let me explain my friend, the level crossing in question only provides access to the ferry port. There is no public right of way for several hundred metres across the aforementioned land to Hamworthy Park. Perhaps in the future you should leave your comments to people of a higher intellect, or, at least to someone that knows how to use Google maps. Reader Echo
  • Score: 5

9:02pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Getridofthetories says...

uvox44 wrote:
um there is a perfectly good level crossing that is perfectly safe nearby- why on earth spend that sort of money on a bridge over a railway line that is hardly ever used?! Surely that money would be better spent where it is REALLY needed? If people are too lazy to walk around via the level crossing then that is their fault!
No prizes for guessing on what part of harbour reach you live on eh :-)
Have you ever considered the rest of harbour reach and why we bought our properties?
Have you considered the little kids legging it down the blandford road to the park and ooops! trip and under a juggernaut?
Have you considered the elderley, that cant make it there?
Have you considered the disabled that cant get there?

The question is have you considered anyone, i dont think you have
[quote][p][bold]uvox44[/bold] wrote: um there is a perfectly good level crossing that is perfectly safe nearby- why on earth spend that sort of money on a bridge over a railway line that is hardly ever used?! Surely that money would be better spent where it is REALLY needed? If people are too lazy to walk around via the level crossing then that is their fault![/p][/quote]No prizes for guessing on what part of harbour reach you live on eh :-) Have you ever considered the rest of harbour reach and why we bought our properties? Have you considered the little kids legging it down the blandford road to the park and ooops! trip and under a juggernaut? Have you considered the elderley, that cant make it there? Have you considered the disabled that cant get there? The question is have you considered anyone, i dont think you have Getridofthetories
  • Score: 1

10:36am Thu 17 Jul 14

Linz69 says...

shouldknowbetter wrote:
Surely the need for this bridge has been generated by the Harbour Reach developments, should the developer not be made to pay for it?
Wrong! We definitely do not want it
[quote][p][bold]shouldknowbetter[/bold] wrote: Surely the need for this bridge has been generated by the Harbour Reach developments, should the developer not be made to pay for it?[/p][/quote]Wrong! We definitely do not want it Linz69
  • Score: 1

9:57pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Getridofthetories says...

Linz69 wrote:
shouldknowbetter wrote:
Surely the need for this bridge has been generated by the Harbour Reach developments, should the developer not be made to pay for it?
Wrong! We definitely do not want it
Wrong! We definitely do not want it

speak for yourself, there are many on harbour reach that want it, and the rest of hamworthy and poole
[quote][p][bold]Linz69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shouldknowbetter[/bold] wrote: Surely the need for this bridge has been generated by the Harbour Reach developments, should the developer not be made to pay for it?[/p][/quote]Wrong! We definitely do not want it[/p][/quote]Wrong! We definitely do not want it speak for yourself, there are many on harbour reach that want it, and the rest of hamworthy and poole Getridofthetories
  • Score: 0

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