Will Poole benefit from Condor Ferries' new super ferry?

Condor Ferries to buy new super-ferry as future of Dorset base still to be decided

Condor Ferries to buy new super-ferry as future of Dorset base still to be decided

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THE port of Poole could benefit from Condor Ferries’ purchase of a new high speed ship.

To accommodate the larger Austal 102 at Weymouth, £10million would need to be spent to upgrade a suitable berth, money which Weymouth and Portland Borough Council does not have.

So it is possible that Poole could profit again as it did for 17 months when Weymouth’s crumbling quay was repaired. If the money was found it would take two years’ work.

There has been recent speculation that Condor might move from Weymouth, after in spring the company refused to guarantee it would continue operating from the port.

However the added fuel cost of the longer crossing had been a problem.

“They might want to run from Poole with a bigger vessel which takes more cars and passengers and makes each crossing more fuel efficient for them,” said Bruce Grant-Braham, Poole Tourism Panel chairman.

“I can see the figures might be preferable for Condor now with a bigger vessel,” he said.

Condor Ferries has confirmed that it is to buy a new 102metre trimaran ferry, capable of taking 245 cars and between 950 and 1,165 passengers to use on its routes between the Channel Islands and the south coast.

Talks have been held for more than a year between the company and the islands over how future services will meet the needs.

The company now has the go ahead to apply for a 10-year licence and that certainty has enabled Condor to confirm its purchase of a new ship.

“The 102 will offer increased reliability, capacity and comfort,” said James Fulford, Condor Ferries chief executive officer.

“I am delighted that we are a step closer to investing in a new ship which will secure the future of high speed ferry services for our islands.”

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12:54pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Huey says...

Great news, stay in Poole condor you know it makes sense.
Great news, stay in Poole condor you know it makes sense. Huey
  • Score: 28

12:59pm Tue 15 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

Congratulations to Mr Fulford in achieving this, said this elsewhere, this is one major step of the way. The new ferry will be a great addition to Dorset. And I am a very happy woman, said elsewhere I come from the Weymouth area and have family and friends there, but live in Bournemouth so am being non biased about which port lol, stuck in the middle me!!

But it is fantastic news, unfortunately dampened by the incident with the grounding of the Commodore Clipper, which luckily wasn't a lot worse. So we hope to welcome the new ship in Dorset very soon!!
Congratulations to Mr Fulford in achieving this, said this elsewhere, this is one major step of the way. The new ferry will be a great addition to Dorset. And I am a very happy woman, said elsewhere I come from the Weymouth area and have family and friends there, but live in Bournemouth so am being non biased about which port lol, stuck in the middle me!! But it is fantastic news, unfortunately dampened by the incident with the grounding of the Commodore Clipper, which luckily wasn't a lot worse. So we hope to welcome the new ship in Dorset very soon!! FerryFan
  • Score: -3

1:01pm Tue 15 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

Huey wrote:
Great news, stay in Poole condor you know it makes sense.
Personally I'd like it too - from someone supposed to be unbiased - now I'll get a rollicking, better run for cover. Hard being in the middle, haha!!
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Great news, stay in Poole condor you know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]Personally I'd like it too - from someone supposed to be unbiased - now I'll get a rollicking, better run for cover. Hard being in the middle, haha!! FerryFan
  • Score: 16

1:23pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Townee says...

Just hope it won't be a secondhand one like the last one they bought from Australian navy.
I've never seen so many people sick on a boat, even the crew said it was bad. We were on it during one of the first trip to Gurnsey, it didn't do our return but was transferred to the French run.
That boat was so unstable even in flat calms.
Just hope it won't be a secondhand one like the last one they bought from Australian navy. I've never seen so many people sick on a boat, even the crew said it was bad. We were on it during one of the first trip to Gurnsey, it didn't do our return but was transferred to the French run. That boat was so unstable even in flat calms. Townee
  • Score: -14

1:33pm Tue 15 Jul 14

MJD says...

Not if the keep running aground. Watch the news.
Not if the keep running aground. Watch the news. MJD
  • Score: -10

4:27pm Tue 15 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

Clipper is out of action for about a week according something on BBC News, as she has to go into dry dock. Something mentioned about the recent earthquake in the islands may have caused damage to the seabed, which is plausible.
Clipper is out of action for about a week according something on BBC News, as she has to go into dry dock. Something mentioned about the recent earthquake in the islands may have caused damage to the seabed, which is plausible. FerryFan
  • Score: 6

4:33pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Motty30 says...

I am pleased Condor have invested in a new boat although this has been a long time coming. I have travelled on Condor for many years and I do wish there was some competition as the boats are slow, unreliable and dirty. Ultimately until the decision makers on the Channel Islands are non-Condor shareholders I doubt any competition will arise sadly.
I am pleased Condor have invested in a new boat although this has been a long time coming. I have travelled on Condor for many years and I do wish there was some competition as the boats are slow, unreliable and dirty. Ultimately until the decision makers on the Channel Islands are non-Condor shareholders I doubt any competition will arise sadly. Motty30
  • Score: -8

10:24am Wed 16 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

If they come to Poole, will they raise fares to recoup any extra fuel expense? I asked this on the Dorset Echo story, so duplicating it here. Poole being their second choice, if they sail from here, then they may want to recoup money, would this be by fare increases?
If they come to Poole, will they raise fares to recoup any extra fuel expense? I asked this on the Dorset Echo story, so duplicating it here. Poole being their second choice, if they sail from here, then they may want to recoup money, would this be by fare increases? FerryFan
  • Score: 3

10:49am Wed 16 Jul 14

Red Leader 1 says...

If routes were decided just by the shortest distance, Portsmouth would not have all the routes it currently has eg St Malo would link to Poole.
Its about port facilities, connectivity and a whole host of factors. Poole cannot take the size of ferries that use Portsmouth and now with this latest example, Weymouth cannot currently take a ferry that Poole comfortably can.
Poole is also a port which doesnt rely on the local authority for its funding and commercial operations make a profit which pays for the upkeep of the whole harbour. The trimaran will fit in very nicely!
If routes were decided just by the shortest distance, Portsmouth would not have all the routes it currently has eg St Malo would link to Poole. Its about port facilities, connectivity and a whole host of factors. Poole cannot take the size of ferries that use Portsmouth and now with this latest example, Weymouth cannot currently take a ferry that Poole comfortably can. Poole is also a port which doesnt rely on the local authority for its funding and commercial operations make a profit which pays for the upkeep of the whole harbour. The trimaran will fit in very nicely! Red Leader 1
  • Score: 8

10:50am Wed 16 Jul 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

Looking forward to doing the 'long' day trips out of Poole, could become a weekly event!
Looking forward to doing the 'long' day trips out of Poole, could become a weekly event! The-Bleeding-Obvious
  • Score: 6

10:59am Wed 16 Jul 14

TheDistrict says...

Although it is a different route, and whilst I am as pleased as above for the Condor to be hat Poole, I hope it does not alter in anyway, the Barfleur, as it did before. I personally do not like the fast cats, but the sedate travel of the Brittany Ferry Barfleur.
Although it is a different route, and whilst I am as pleased as above for the Condor to be hat Poole, I hope it does not alter in anyway, the Barfleur, as it did before. I personally do not like the fast cats, but the sedate travel of the Brittany Ferry Barfleur. TheDistrict
  • Score: 1

11:39am Wed 16 Jul 14

bmthtony says...

2 things, firstly why are the echo showing pictures of the current ferry? The new one is built, has had sea trials and there are plenty of pictures of it out there (its a stunning ship)
Secondly, I hope the port of Poole upgrades the foot passenger facilities, the temporary feel of the porta- cabins and then jumping in a rickety transfer vehicle pulled by a tractor is not a 21st century experience.
If you want the cruise ships and larger ferries to stay, you need to make the experience for all passengers more pleasant.
2 things, firstly why are the echo showing pictures of the current ferry? The new one is built, has had sea trials and there are plenty of pictures of it out there (its a stunning ship) Secondly, I hope the port of Poole upgrades the foot passenger facilities, the temporary feel of the porta- cabins and then jumping in a rickety transfer vehicle pulled by a tractor is not a 21st century experience. If you want the cruise ships and larger ferries to stay, you need to make the experience for all passengers more pleasant. bmthtony
  • Score: 8

12:09pm Wed 16 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

TheDistrict wrote:
Although it is a different route, and whilst I am as pleased as above for the Condor to be hat Poole, I hope it does not alter in anyway, the Barfleur, as it did before. I personally do not like the fast cats, but the sedate travel of the Brittany Ferry Barfleur.
I do love the Barfy, she is the right ship for the route she is on - a fast cat makes a short route shorter, much nicer to spend a few hours relaxing, really enjoy it. Next year Barfleur will be going for scrubbers according to news elsewhere and an HSC, the Normandie Express will be doing the crossing for a few weeks in her absence. Been on the Nex and she is lovely - but not wanting her as a permanent replacement for our buddy!!

The fast craft I do enjoy as well though and would prefer to do a trip to St Malo on the trimaran than I would going from Pompey, nice ship the Bretagne is, but I like the idea of a fast crossing for this!! I think this new ship will be excellent.
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: Although it is a different route, and whilst I am as pleased as above for the Condor to be hat Poole, I hope it does not alter in anyway, the Barfleur, as it did before. I personally do not like the fast cats, but the sedate travel of the Brittany Ferry Barfleur.[/p][/quote]I do love the Barfy, she is the right ship for the route she is on - a fast cat makes a short route shorter, much nicer to spend a few hours relaxing, really enjoy it. Next year Barfleur will be going for scrubbers according to news elsewhere and an HSC, the Normandie Express will be doing the crossing for a few weeks in her absence. Been on the Nex and she is lovely - but not wanting her as a permanent replacement for our buddy!! The fast craft I do enjoy as well though and would prefer to do a trip to St Malo on the trimaran than I would going from Pompey, nice ship the Bretagne is, but I like the idea of a fast crossing for this!! I think this new ship will be excellent. FerryFan
  • Score: 3

1:13pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Redgolfer says...

Townee wrote:
Just hope it won't be a secondhand one like the last one they bought from Australian navy.
I've never seen so many people sick on a boat, even the crew said it was bad. We were on it during one of the first trip to Gurnsey, it didn't do our return but was transferred to the French run.
That boat was so unstable even in flat calms.
Townee AGREE WITH EVERY WORD YOU SAID, we went to Jersey nearly everyone on board was sick going to Jersey on the way back later that night with flat calm sea, that TUB was rocking and Rolling all over the place, we will NEVER EVER go on those unstable tubs again ???
[quote][p][bold]Townee[/bold] wrote: Just hope it won't be a secondhand one like the last one they bought from Australian navy. I've never seen so many people sick on a boat, even the crew said it was bad. We were on it during one of the first trip to Gurnsey, it didn't do our return but was transferred to the French run. That boat was so unstable even in flat calms.[/p][/quote]Townee AGREE WITH EVERY WORD YOU SAID, we went to Jersey nearly everyone on board was sick going to Jersey on the way back later that night with flat calm sea, that TUB was rocking and Rolling all over the place, we will NEVER EVER go on those unstable tubs again ??? Redgolfer
  • Score: 3

10:08am Thu 17 Jul 14

TheDistrict says...

FerryFan wrote:
TheDistrict wrote:
Although it is a different route, and whilst I am as pleased as above for the Condor to be hat Poole, I hope it does not alter in anyway, the Barfleur, as it did before. I personally do not like the fast cats, but the sedate travel of the Brittany Ferry Barfleur.
I do love the Barfy, she is the right ship for the route she is on - a fast cat makes a short route shorter, much nicer to spend a few hours relaxing, really enjoy it. Next year Barfleur will be going for scrubbers according to news elsewhere and an HSC, the Normandie Express will be doing the crossing for a few weeks in her absence. Been on the Nex and she is lovely - but not wanting her as a permanent replacement for our buddy!!

The fast craft I do enjoy as well though and would prefer to do a trip to St Malo on the trimaran than I would going from Pompey, nice ship the Bretagne is, but I like the idea of a fast crossing for this!! I think this new ship will be excellent.
Have not seen any news regarding the maintenance, of which Barfleur had similar a year or two back. BF at Poole do not appear to be aware of this.
What source was this news taken from Ferry Fan.
[quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: Although it is a different route, and whilst I am as pleased as above for the Condor to be hat Poole, I hope it does not alter in anyway, the Barfleur, as it did before. I personally do not like the fast cats, but the sedate travel of the Brittany Ferry Barfleur.[/p][/quote]I do love the Barfy, she is the right ship for the route she is on - a fast cat makes a short route shorter, much nicer to spend a few hours relaxing, really enjoy it. Next year Barfleur will be going for scrubbers according to news elsewhere and an HSC, the Normandie Express will be doing the crossing for a few weeks in her absence. Been on the Nex and she is lovely - but not wanting her as a permanent replacement for our buddy!! The fast craft I do enjoy as well though and would prefer to do a trip to St Malo on the trimaran than I would going from Pompey, nice ship the Bretagne is, but I like the idea of a fast crossing for this!! I think this new ship will be excellent.[/p][/quote]Have not seen any news regarding the maintenance, of which Barfleur had similar a year or two back. BF at Poole do not appear to be aware of this. What source was this news taken from Ferry Fan. TheDistrict
  • Score: 0

10:53am Tue 22 Jul 14

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