Remains of pensioner Anne Leitrim lay undiscovered for six years until found by bailiffs

The flats where Anne Leitrim's body was found by baliffs

The flats where Anne Leitrim's body was found by baliffs

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THE BODY of an elderly woman has been discovered at a Bournemouth flat, six years after she is believed to have died.

On Tuesday the “mummified” body of a woman in her 70s was found inside a ground-floor flat in Tolpuddle Gardens in Throop.

The grim discovery was made after bailiffs gained entry to the property to recover unpaid debts.

Shocked neighbours said they thought the pensioner, named locally as Anne Leitrim, had moved away around six years ago and the flat, which backs onto the communal garden, appeared to be empty.

John Stanley, who has lived in the building for the past eight years, said: “Everyone's so shocked. We didn't think anyone was living there. Her car went and we just thought she had moved out.

“There are cobwebs in the windows and we used to joke there could be a body inside but we had no idea.”

Mr Stanley said bailiffs and locksmiths came to the flat on Tuesday morning and entered the property via two windows that had been left ajar.

“The windows were slightly open and they used a coat hanger to get inside,” he said.

“The locksmith went in and said 'I think there's a body'. It was so decomposed he couldn't tell.”

The 55-year-old entered the flat in an attempt to help identify the body, which was found in a “mummified state”, Mr Stanley said.

He recalled Ms Leitrim to be a friendly woman who spoke with a Scottish accent.

He said: “I only spoke to her two or three times. She kept herself to herself but she was always very smart. She was friendly and would say hello.”

Ruth Evans, who has lived in the building for the past six years, said she felt guilty no one realised what had happened.

The 59-year-old said: “I couldn't sleep last night at all. It makes me feel guilty. You think of all the times we were out in the garden and she was just lying there.

“When her car disappeared we all thought she had moved away. When the chap said there was a body inside I couldn't believe it.”

Debbie Small, who has lived in the street for two years, said everyone had been left shocked by the news.

“It's really sad,” she said.

“We are all quite close on this side of the street but we don't often see people in the flats. It's a really friendly street and we all know each other. I can't believe it.”

A spokesman from Dorset Police said the death is not being treated as suspicious.

The tragic discovery echoes the death of 59-year-old Robert White from Poole.

In February 2012, Mr White's remains were discovered at his tower block home in Drake Court in Lagland Street,18 months after he was last seen.

The father-of-seven's body, which was discovered by his estranged wife, was so badly decomposed he had to be identified by his fingerprints. An inquest heard it was impossible to determine how he died.

SO MANY LIVING ALONE

MORE THAN half of 75-year-olds in the UK live alone and one in ten suffers “intense” loneliness but is reluctant to ask for help, a poll conducted by the charity The Silver Line has revealed.

Last year TV presenter Esther Rantzen set-up the free phoneline for older people in a bid to help tackle loneliness in the over-75s.

Describing this instance as a “sad and shocking case”, a spokesman for the charity urged any older person who feels isolated to pick up the phone. She said: “The Silver Line is available throughout the UK and is open 24 hours, every day and night of the year. 

“We never close, so any older person who is feeling isolated or lonely is always welcome to call us on 0800 4 70 80 90 – the helpline is free and confidential, and staffed by people who are really interested in having a good chat.”

The helpline received more than 100,000 calls in its first six months.

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5:50pm Wed 25 Jun 14

misplacedspaniard says...

That's so sad that nobody missed her :-( rip
That's so sad that nobody missed her :-( rip misplacedspaniard
  • Score: 133

5:55pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Loonyspoon says...

How very sad that for six years no one missed this lady enough to check up on her. Poor soul.
How very sad that for six years no one missed this lady enough to check up on her. Poor soul. Loonyspoon
  • Score: 143

5:57pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Cripes, that is a long time. Only beaten as far as I know by a bloke in Germany.It was 9 years till they found his mummified body sat in an arm chair
with his christmas dinner on a tray on his lap and the TV was still on !
They worked out he's probably died on Christmas day by the post he had opened and not opened and by the unpulled cracker on his tray.
Cripes, that is a long time. Only beaten as far as I know by a bloke in Germany.It was 9 years till they found his mummified body sat in an arm chair with his christmas dinner on a tray on his lap and the TV was still on ! They worked out he's probably died on Christmas day by the post he had opened and not opened and by the unpulled cracker on his tray. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: -35

6:04pm Wed 25 Jun 14

muscliffman says...

Our modern sharing caring society, how utterly tragic.
Our modern sharing caring society, how utterly tragic. muscliffman
  • Score: 98

6:06pm Wed 25 Jun 14

mungobean says...

These stories make me feel so sad. I always check on my elderly neighbour. 6 years is such a long time. Even if her neighbours thought she'd moved out, didn't anyone living in the block think to check?
These stories make me feel so sad. I always check on my elderly neighbour. 6 years is such a long time. Even if her neighbours thought she'd moved out, didn't anyone living in the block think to check? mungobean
  • Score: 74

6:11pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

This is one of the problems with direct debits, if you've got plenty of money in the bank the money keeps going out as and when. Nobody notices until the money runs out. Pension in, direct debits out, it can obviously go on for years.
This is one of the problems with direct debits, if you've got plenty of money in the bank the money keeps going out as and when. Nobody notices until the money runs out. Pension in, direct debits out, it can obviously go on for years. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 73

6:29pm Wed 25 Jun 14

bosco1 says...

I do think its very sad when a person ends his / her life in this way. What I find odd all the neighbours seemed shocked all so friendly but not one did anything about it.Why dident anyone bother to just check maybe looking through the letter box there was bound to be a pile of post newspapers junk mail..? If it was council owned a phone call to the offices,or to the managing agents.I appreciate people tend to get on with there own lives, surely a meter reading would have been needed at some point, unless meters are outside of the flat of course. As neighbour it would seem strange not to see any windows open for 6 years or any lights on.!! Very sad indeed.
I do think its very sad when a person ends his / her life in this way. What I find odd all the neighbours seemed shocked all so friendly but not one did anything about it.Why dident anyone bother to just check maybe looking through the letter box there was bound to be a pile of post newspapers junk mail..? If it was council owned a phone call to the offices,or to the managing agents.I appreciate people tend to get on with there own lives, surely a meter reading would have been needed at some point, unless meters are outside of the flat of course. As neighbour it would seem strange not to see any windows open for 6 years or any lights on.!! Very sad indeed. bosco1
  • Score: 65

6:54pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Huey says...

bosco1 wrote:
I do think its very sad when a person ends his / her life in this way. What I find odd all the neighbours seemed shocked all so friendly but not one did anything about it.Why dident anyone bother to just check maybe looking through the letter box there was bound to be a pile of post newspapers junk mail..? If it was council owned a phone call to the offices,or to the managing agents.I appreciate people tend to get on with there own lives, surely a meter reading would have been needed at some point, unless meters are outside of the flat of course. As neighbour it would seem strange not to see any windows open for 6 years or any lights on.!! Very sad indeed.
Maybe, but looking at it a different way she was left alone in peace and quiet, nobody bothered her, we don't know she was lonely she may have been a bit reclusive and private, not had many friends, no family.
Some people do want to be left alone and value privacy.
She died in her own home, probably quickly as she didn't call for help.
There are far worse deaths to suffer.
As for the neighbours, well if they barely knew the lady and all believed she had left, then they cannot be held held responsible for anything other than minding their own business.
[quote][p][bold]bosco1[/bold] wrote: I do think its very sad when a person ends his / her life in this way. What I find odd all the neighbours seemed shocked all so friendly but not one did anything about it.Why dident anyone bother to just check maybe looking through the letter box there was bound to be a pile of post newspapers junk mail..? If it was council owned a phone call to the offices,or to the managing agents.I appreciate people tend to get on with there own lives, surely a meter reading would have been needed at some point, unless meters are outside of the flat of course. As neighbour it would seem strange not to see any windows open for 6 years or any lights on.!! Very sad indeed.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but looking at it a different way she was left alone in peace and quiet, nobody bothered her, we don't know she was lonely she may have been a bit reclusive and private, not had many friends, no family. Some people do want to be left alone and value privacy. She died in her own home, probably quickly as she didn't call for help. There are far worse deaths to suffer. As for the neighbours, well if they barely knew the lady and all believed she had left, then they cannot be held held responsible for anything other than minding their own business. Huey
  • Score: 56

6:57pm Wed 25 Jun 14

rachiesmith1981 says...

bosco1 wrote:
I do think its very sad when a person ends his / her life in this way. What I find odd all the neighbours seemed shocked all so friendly but not one did anything about it.Why dident anyone bother to just check maybe looking through the letter box there was bound to be a pile of post newspapers junk mail..? If it was council owned a phone call to the offices,or to the managing agents.I appreciate people tend to get on with there own lives, surely a meter reading would have been needed at some point, unless meters are outside of the flat of course. As neighbour it would seem strange not to see any windows open for 6 years or any lights on.!! Very sad indeed.
Did you read the article?
All your questions are answered in there & no-one says thed person took their own life.
[quote][p][bold]bosco1[/bold] wrote: I do think its very sad when a person ends his / her life in this way. What I find odd all the neighbours seemed shocked all so friendly but not one did anything about it.Why dident anyone bother to just check maybe looking through the letter box there was bound to be a pile of post newspapers junk mail..? If it was council owned a phone call to the offices,or to the managing agents.I appreciate people tend to get on with there own lives, surely a meter reading would have been needed at some point, unless meters are outside of the flat of course. As neighbour it would seem strange not to see any windows open for 6 years or any lights on.!! Very sad indeed.[/p][/quote]Did you read the article? All your questions are answered in there & no-one says thed person took their own life. rachiesmith1981
  • Score: -25

7:29pm Wed 25 Jun 14

bosco1 says...

just for the critics, I was not suggesting she took her own life. I was highlighting a sad way to end a persons life in this situation, on there own for 6 years. Yes the neighbours thought she had moved away, but what does it take to maybe consider why maybe a flat remains unused, its not normal is it. And yes its not the neighbours fault she may have wanted a private life, but it shows these days everyone for themselves, well sorry I dont fall into that group.!
just for the critics, I was not suggesting she took her own life. I was highlighting a sad way to end a persons life in this situation, on there own for 6 years. Yes the neighbours thought she had moved away, but what does it take to maybe consider why maybe a flat remains unused, its not normal is it. And yes its not the neighbours fault she may have wanted a private life, but it shows these days everyone for themselves, well sorry I dont fall into that group.! bosco1
  • Score: 34

7:51pm Wed 25 Jun 14

spooki says...

So where's her car? If folk could see in and thought it was an empty flat, where's her stuff? How sad that not one person noticed enough to find out what had happened.
So where's her car? If folk could see in and thought it was an empty flat, where's her stuff? How sad that not one person noticed enough to find out what had happened. spooki
  • Score: 34

8:16pm Wed 25 Jun 14

live-and-let-live says...

funny how the neighbours ay its a friendly place. not friendly enough though are they?
funny how the neighbours ay its a friendly place. not friendly enough though are they? live-and-let-live
  • Score: 25

9:09pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Ragwin says...

Surely the letter box was piling up with pizza and Indian restaurant pamphlets. There must have been 300 copies of the
Advertiser at the bottom of the door. What about gas and elec bills?
Surely the letter box was piling up with pizza and Indian restaurant pamphlets. There must have been 300 copies of the Advertiser at the bottom of the door. What about gas and elec bills? Ragwin
  • Score: 52

10:28pm Wed 25 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

muscliffman wrote:
Our modern sharing caring society, how utterly tragic.
Very well said in complete contrast to other comments.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Our modern sharing caring society, how utterly tragic.[/p][/quote]Very well said in complete contrast to other comments. breamoreboy
  • Score: 19

11:01pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Minty Fresh says...

Disgusting in this day and age that no-one checked up on this poor woman. Neighbours, friends, relatives and the authorities hang your heads in shame.
Disgusting in this day and age that no-one checked up on this poor woman. Neighbours, friends, relatives and the authorities hang your heads in shame. Minty Fresh
  • Score: 9

11:46pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Chief-Wiggum says...

Minty Fresh wrote:
Disgusting in this day and age that no-one checked up on this poor woman. Neighbours, friends, relatives and the authorities hang your heads in shame.
Im sure you check on all your neighbours! If they thought she had moved out then why would they go to 'check' on her? If they did then she still would have been dead. They couldn't have saved her.
[quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: Disgusting in this day and age that no-one checked up on this poor woman. Neighbours, friends, relatives and the authorities hang your heads in shame.[/p][/quote]Im sure you check on all your neighbours! If they thought she had moved out then why would they go to 'check' on her? If they did then she still would have been dead. They couldn't have saved her. Chief-Wiggum
  • Score: 12

12:00am Thu 26 Jun 14

Frank28 says...

How British society has changed since the War. Everybody knew each other, and had the care and support of the community. Today, everyone minds their own business and keeps themselves to themselves - especially as falling out with neighbours can create a 'neighbour from hell' situation. Didn't it occur to anyone that the flat had been empty for a very long time? With the knowledge of an empty flat possibly being available, I would have thought that someone might have enquired about for a friend or relative?
How British society has changed since the War. Everybody knew each other, and had the care and support of the community. Today, everyone minds their own business and keeps themselves to themselves - especially as falling out with neighbours can create a 'neighbour from hell' situation. Didn't it occur to anyone that the flat had been empty for a very long time? With the knowledge of an empty flat possibly being available, I would have thought that someone might have enquired about for a friend or relative? Frank28
  • Score: 12

1:18am Thu 26 Jun 14

Berriano says...

A spokesman from Dorset Police said the death is not being treated as suspicious.
So how come her car disappeared then?Is that not suspicious!
A spokesman from Dorset Police said the death is not being treated as suspicious. So how come her car disappeared then?Is that not suspicious! Berriano
  • Score: 21

5:29am Thu 26 Jun 14

hamworthygirl says...

This such a sad story to read, I had an elderly neighbour and myself and the lady opposite would always keep an eye. If we didnt see her curtains open in the morning one of us would ring her. I do wonder even if this lady had no family that a bank or doctors would notice they hadnt heard from her. Poor lady i guess she had no family, though i am wondering about the car and where it went.
This such a sad story to read, I had an elderly neighbour and myself and the lady opposite would always keep an eye. If we didnt see her curtains open in the morning one of us would ring her. I do wonder even if this lady had no family that a bank or doctors would notice they hadnt heard from her. Poor lady i guess she had no family, though i am wondering about the car and where it went. hamworthygirl
  • Score: 12

8:10am Thu 26 Jun 14

smhinto says...

Just typical of todays society I'm afraid where no one gives a monkeys 'chuff' about anybody else.
Just typical of todays society I'm afraid where no one gives a monkeys 'chuff' about anybody else. smhinto
  • Score: 8

8:42am Thu 26 Jun 14

Wesoblind says...

i bet the bailiffs took the car years before?
i bet the bailiffs took the car years before? Wesoblind
  • Score: 2

9:08am Thu 26 Jun 14

Dibbles2 says...

Berriano wrote:
A spokesman from Dorset Police said the death is not being treated as suspicious.
So how come her car disappeared then?Is that not suspicious!
I would suggest that her car probably had no tax on it and was removed by the DVLA?
[quote][p][bold]Berriano[/bold] wrote: A spokesman from Dorset Police said the death is not being treated as suspicious. So how come her car disappeared then?Is that not suspicious![/p][/quote]I would suggest that her car probably had no tax on it and was removed by the DVLA? Dibbles2
  • Score: 0

9:14am Thu 26 Jun 14

Dibbles2 says...

I had a neighbour who I went to check on as his water overflow pipe was going for ages and I was worried he had collapsed in the bath or something and was promptly told to F off and mind my own business. He never comes out of his house and doesn't seem to have any relatives or visitors so if he were in the same circumstances I don't expect he would be found for a while.

You cant blame the neighbour's, or even the postie as its common in elderly peoples houses to find piles of papers and junk and post as they are unable to pick it up themselves often.
I had a neighbour who I went to check on as his water overflow pipe was going for ages and I was worried he had collapsed in the bath or something and was promptly told to F off and mind my own business. He never comes out of his house and doesn't seem to have any relatives or visitors so if he were in the same circumstances I don't expect he would be found for a while. You cant blame the neighbour's, or even the postie as its common in elderly peoples houses to find piles of papers and junk and post as they are unable to pick it up themselves often. Dibbles2
  • Score: 15

9:31am Thu 26 Jun 14

TheDistrict says...

Since we have lived our flat, we have had annual gas checks, four yearly internal house stock checks by the council. Whether this property's landlord is the Council or a Private Landlord, such checks should be made on such properties.

And as neighbours, where have the days gone where one checks on neighbours not seen for a while. If I have not seen my elderly neighbours in a couple of days, and just knock on the door to see if they are ok.
Since we have lived our flat, we have had annual gas checks, four yearly internal house stock checks by the council. Whether this property's landlord is the Council or a Private Landlord, such checks should be made on such properties. And as neighbours, where have the days gone where one checks on neighbours not seen for a while. If I have not seen my elderly neighbours in a couple of days, and just knock on the door to see if they are ok. TheDistrict
  • Score: 6

9:42am Thu 26 Jun 14

justme20092009 says...

ahh nice neighbours
ahh nice neighbours justme20092009
  • Score: -10

11:27am Thu 26 Jun 14

muscliffman says...

As an aside, in reporting this sad story perhaps the Echo reporter should have made the effort to check where this flat actually is.

Because it is not in Throop as stated, Tolpuddle Gardens is immediately beside the large NHS Dental and Doctor's surgery and right in the heart of Muscliff.
As an aside, in reporting this sad story perhaps the Echo reporter should have made the effort to check where this flat actually is. Because it is not in Throop as stated, Tolpuddle Gardens is immediately beside the large NHS Dental and Doctor's surgery and right in the heart of Muscliff. muscliffman
  • Score: 8

11:40am Thu 26 Jun 14

Lord Spring says...

muscliffman wrote:
As an aside, in reporting this sad story perhaps the Echo reporter should have made the effort to check where this flat actually is.

Because it is not in Throop as stated, Tolpuddle Gardens is immediately beside the large NHS Dental and Doctor's surgery and right in the heart of Muscliff.
You are lucky they got that close generally they say Boscombe
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: As an aside, in reporting this sad story perhaps the Echo reporter should have made the effort to check where this flat actually is. Because it is not in Throop as stated, Tolpuddle Gardens is immediately beside the large NHS Dental and Doctor's surgery and right in the heart of Muscliff.[/p][/quote]You are lucky they got that close generally they say Boscombe Lord Spring
  • Score: 9

12:06pm Thu 26 Jun 14

MrEdge says...

What a sad story.

It's sad that so many old people are living alone like this when so many ways to connect exist these days that they missed out on because of their generation. Will generations to come vanish into their apartments so easily, or will online connections like Facebook and Twitter allow people living alone to connect with a wide range of other old people who would miss them?

For those in their 20s, being 75+ won't be an all alone experience. VR and online communities, games and social networks will allow people to keep their mind and experiences out in the world long after their bodies start to let them down.
What a sad story. It's sad that so many old people are living alone like this when so many ways to connect exist these days that they missed out on because of their generation. Will generations to come vanish into their apartments so easily, or will online connections like Facebook and Twitter allow people living alone to connect with a wide range of other old people who would miss them? For those in their 20s, being 75+ won't be an all alone experience. VR and online communities, games and social networks will allow people to keep their mind and experiences out in the world long after their bodies start to let them down. MrEdge
  • Score: 6

3:14pm Thu 26 Jun 14

rach74 says...

TheDistrict wrote:
Since we have lived our flat, we have had annual gas checks, four yearly internal house stock checks by the council. Whether this property's landlord is the Council or a Private Landlord, such checks should be made on such properties. And as neighbours, where have the days gone where one checks on neighbours not seen for a while. If I have not seen my elderly neighbours in a couple of days, and just knock on the door to see if they are ok.
perhaps she owned her own flat!

my mum owns her own house and the neighbours all do what has been said above, if curtains havent been opened they ring them or go round and make sure they are ok

but also surely people who put leaflets through the door would have noticed a huge pile of these, and also if you havent used your bank account in 2 years they can sometimes just close this as this happened to my mother in law and when we went in and asked why they presumed because of her age she had passed away, so cannot blame banks etc as this would have been closed and lack of letters being posted, would have been just junk post and papers

such a sad story that no one missed this lady for all that time
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: Since we have lived our flat, we have had annual gas checks, four yearly internal house stock checks by the council. Whether this property's landlord is the Council or a Private Landlord, such checks should be made on such properties. And as neighbours, where have the days gone where one checks on neighbours not seen for a while. If I have not seen my elderly neighbours in a couple of days, and just knock on the door to see if they are ok.[/p][/quote]perhaps she owned her own flat! my mum owns her own house and the neighbours all do what has been said above, if curtains havent been opened they ring them or go round and make sure they are ok but also surely people who put leaflets through the door would have noticed a huge pile of these, and also if you havent used your bank account in 2 years they can sometimes just close this as this happened to my mother in law and when we went in and asked why they presumed because of her age she had passed away, so cannot blame banks etc as this would have been closed and lack of letters being posted, would have been just junk post and papers such a sad story that no one missed this lady for all that time rach74
  • Score: 4

3:52pm Thu 26 Jun 14

davecook says...

It's very sad that nobody missed her for so long, but I would bet my bottom dollar family will now appear like magic if there is any money to fight over.....
It's very sad that nobody missed her for so long, but I would bet my bottom dollar family will now appear like magic if there is any money to fight over..... davecook
  • Score: 6

3:56pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Lord Spring says...

TheDistrict wrote:
Since we have lived our flat, we have had annual gas checks, four yearly internal house stock checks by the council. Whether this property's landlord is the Council or a Private Landlord, such checks should be made on such properties.

And as neighbours, where have the days gone where one checks on neighbours not seen for a while. If I have not seen my elderly neighbours in a couple of days, and just knock on the door to see if they are ok.
Maybe she was an owner-occupier and as someone mentioned earlier involved with direct debits so there was no personal contact . Funds expired and then proceedings started to recoup outstanding dues for bailiffs to be involved.
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: Since we have lived our flat, we have had annual gas checks, four yearly internal house stock checks by the council. Whether this property's landlord is the Council or a Private Landlord, such checks should be made on such properties. And as neighbours, where have the days gone where one checks on neighbours not seen for a while. If I have not seen my elderly neighbours in a couple of days, and just knock on the door to see if they are ok.[/p][/quote]Maybe she was an owner-occupier and as someone mentioned earlier involved with direct debits so there was no personal contact . Funds expired and then proceedings started to recoup outstanding dues for bailiffs to be involved. Lord Spring
  • Score: 7

4:01pm Thu 26 Jun 14

TheDistrict says...

rach74 wrote:
TheDistrict wrote:
Since we have lived our flat, we have had annual gas checks, four yearly internal house stock checks by the council. Whether this property's landlord is the Council or a Private Landlord, such checks should be made on such properties. And as neighbours, where have the days gone where one checks on neighbours not seen for a while. If I have not seen my elderly neighbours in a couple of days, and just knock on the door to see if they are ok.
perhaps she owned her own flat!

my mum owns her own house and the neighbours all do what has been said above, if curtains havent been opened they ring them or go round and make sure they are ok

but also surely people who put leaflets through the door would have noticed a huge pile of these, and also if you havent used your bank account in 2 years they can sometimes just close this as this happened to my mother in law and when we went in and asked why they presumed because of her age she had passed away, so cannot blame banks etc as this would have been closed and lack of letters being posted, would have been just junk post and papers

such a sad story that no one missed this lady for all that time
A good point, but I would have thought that even private residents have some sort of annual checks like fire alarms, gas appliances, etc. However, it is still a sad affair that someone had been dead for so long and no one knew.
[quote][p][bold]rach74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: Since we have lived our flat, we have had annual gas checks, four yearly internal house stock checks by the council. Whether this property's landlord is the Council or a Private Landlord, such checks should be made on such properties. And as neighbours, where have the days gone where one checks on neighbours not seen for a while. If I have not seen my elderly neighbours in a couple of days, and just knock on the door to see if they are ok.[/p][/quote]perhaps she owned her own flat! my mum owns her own house and the neighbours all do what has been said above, if curtains havent been opened they ring them or go round and make sure they are ok but also surely people who put leaflets through the door would have noticed a huge pile of these, and also if you havent used your bank account in 2 years they can sometimes just close this as this happened to my mother in law and when we went in and asked why they presumed because of her age she had passed away, so cannot blame banks etc as this would have been closed and lack of letters being posted, would have been just junk post and papers such a sad story that no one missed this lady for all that time[/p][/quote]A good point, but I would have thought that even private residents have some sort of annual checks like fire alarms, gas appliances, etc. However, it is still a sad affair that someone had been dead for so long and no one knew. TheDistrict
  • Score: 1

4:12pm Thu 26 Jun 14

muscliffman says...

Lord Spring wrote:
TheDistrict wrote:
Since we have lived our flat, we have had annual gas checks, four yearly internal house stock checks by the council. Whether this property's landlord is the Council or a Private Landlord, such checks should be made on such properties.

And as neighbours, where have the days gone where one checks on neighbours not seen for a while. If I have not seen my elderly neighbours in a couple of days, and just knock on the door to see if they are ok.
Maybe she was an owner-occupier and as someone mentioned earlier involved with direct debits so there was no personal contact . Funds expired and then proceedings started to recoup outstanding dues for bailiffs to be involved.
Agreed, In these times of automated debits and credits it is easy to see how the alarm bells did not ring much earlier, it seems likely the deceased lady was still receiving her directly credited state pension, so this kept her bank account alive and functioning fairly normally.

However I trust the Police are checking upon her reportedly 'disappeared' car in terms of exactly when it went and what happened to it.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: Since we have lived our flat, we have had annual gas checks, four yearly internal house stock checks by the council. Whether this property's landlord is the Council or a Private Landlord, such checks should be made on such properties. And as neighbours, where have the days gone where one checks on neighbours not seen for a while. If I have not seen my elderly neighbours in a couple of days, and just knock on the door to see if they are ok.[/p][/quote]Maybe she was an owner-occupier and as someone mentioned earlier involved with direct debits so there was no personal contact . Funds expired and then proceedings started to recoup outstanding dues for bailiffs to be involved.[/p][/quote]Agreed, In these times of automated debits and credits it is easy to see how the alarm bells did not ring much earlier, it seems likely the deceased lady was still receiving her directly credited state pension, so this kept her bank account alive and functioning fairly normally. However I trust the Police are checking upon her reportedly 'disappeared' car in terms of exactly when it went and what happened to it. muscliffman
  • Score: 1

4:43pm Thu 26 Jun 14

tom1992 says...

That's sad reading this story.. but what i don't get is how did they not get suspicious about it.. if she had move clearly it would be rented by someone else... if no one lived in the flat for 6 years that make me suspicious about it.. harsh not knowing anyone cant knock on the door or look threw the window just to check to see if she actually move but found 6 years later bailiff's... R.I.P
That's sad reading this story.. but what i don't get is how did they not get suspicious about it.. if she had move clearly it would be rented by someone else... if no one lived in the flat for 6 years that make me suspicious about it.. harsh not knowing anyone cant knock on the door or look threw the window just to check to see if she actually move but found 6 years later bailiff's... R.I.P tom1992
  • Score: 5

10:53pm Thu 26 Jun 14

justme20092009 says...

apart from the fact that this is a very sad and tragic thing to happen after 6 years, did nobody notice any odd smells or excessive flies around,oviously not,r,i,p
apart from the fact that this is a very sad and tragic thing to happen after 6 years, did nobody notice any odd smells or excessive flies around,oviously not,r,i,p justme20092009
  • Score: 2

11:32pm Thu 26 Jun 14

stevobath says...

This is Camerons 'Big Society' for you. Selfish, uncaring & constantly judgemental.
How depressing that things have sunk to this level since the end of the 1970's.
This is Camerons 'Big Society' for you. Selfish, uncaring & constantly judgemental. How depressing that things have sunk to this level since the end of the 1970's. stevobath
  • Score: -5

1:35am Fri 27 Jun 14

Ragwin says...

stevobath wrote:
This is Camerons 'Big Society' for you. Selfish, uncaring & constantly judgemental.
How depressing that things have sunk to this level since the end of the 1970's.
You can have the community society you want if you are willing to pay 90% tax.
[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: This is Camerons 'Big Society' for you. Selfish, uncaring & constantly judgemental. How depressing that things have sunk to this level since the end of the 1970's.[/p][/quote]You can have the community society you want if you are willing to pay 90% tax. Ragwin
  • Score: -1

8:47am Fri 27 Jun 14

Mamma Troll says...

yeah your all very sorry now .You uncaring hypocrites, she was dead in her flat for 6 years and the neighbours new nothing............c
rying out loud you lived in the same small block of flats.
yeah your all very sorry now .You uncaring hypocrites, she was dead in her flat for 6 years and the neighbours new nothing............c rying out loud you lived in the same small block of flats. Mamma Troll
  • Score: -2

1:47pm Fri 27 Jun 14

stevobath says...

Ragwin wrote:
stevobath wrote:
This is Camerons 'Big Society' for you. Selfish, uncaring & constantly judgemental.
How depressing that things have sunk to this level since the end of the 1970's.
You can have the community society you want if you are willing to pay 90% tax.
That's what Camoron & Co would have you believe.

More the fool you, if that's what you believe.

Caring about certain things costs NOTHING.
[quote][p][bold]Ragwin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: This is Camerons 'Big Society' for you. Selfish, uncaring & constantly judgemental. How depressing that things have sunk to this level since the end of the 1970's.[/p][/quote]You can have the community society you want if you are willing to pay 90% tax.[/p][/quote]That's what Camoron & Co would have you believe. More the fool you, if that's what you believe. Caring about certain things costs NOTHING. stevobath
  • Score: 2

8:52pm Sat 28 Jun 14

stevobath says...

davecook wrote:
It's very sad that nobody missed her for so long, but I would bet my bottom dollar family will now appear like magic if there is any money to fight over.....
How true.
Used to see it all the time when I worked in nursing homes.

They really do appear from out of no where!
[quote][p][bold]davecook[/bold] wrote: It's very sad that nobody missed her for so long, but I would bet my bottom dollar family will now appear like magic if there is any money to fight over.....[/p][/quote]How true. Used to see it all the time when I worked in nursing homes. They really do appear from out of no where! stevobath
  • Score: 1

6:26am Sun 29 Jun 14

Hullmale says...

Nice eh.must have had nice neighbours
Nice eh.must have had nice neighbours Hullmale
  • Score: 0

11:48pm Sun 29 Jun 14

snowflakes says...

What about her bank.Only direct debits taken off,surely they would gave noticed there was nothing taken from her account, no payments for food.?
Mmmm ..!! as for the neighbours someone must gave noticed the closed curtains and the garden must have been soo overgrown.what about the people who lived directly next door to her?. Very sad.
What about her bank.Only direct debits taken off,surely they would gave noticed there was nothing taken from her account, no payments for food.? Mmmm ..!! as for the neighbours someone must gave noticed the closed curtains and the garden must have been soo overgrown.what about the people who lived directly next door to her?. Very sad. snowflakes
  • Score: 0

10:57am Wed 9 Jul 14

LeGrove says...

I can only presume the Police were present, as Baliff's don't have the legal standing to enter a property on their own, even with a locksmith... that's breaking and entering.
I can only presume the Police were present, as Baliff's don't have the legal standing to enter a property on their own, even with a locksmith... that's breaking and entering. LeGrove
  • Score: 0

6:54pm Tue 15 Jul 14

holdinkæft says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
This is one of the problems with direct debits, if you've got plenty of money in the bank the money keeps going out as and when. Nobody notices until the money runs out. Pension in, direct debits out, it can obviously go on for years.
The grim discovery was made after bailiffs gained entry to the property to recover unpaid debts
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: This is one of the problems with direct debits, if you've got plenty of money in the bank the money keeps going out as and when. Nobody notices until the money runs out. Pension in, direct debits out, it can obviously go on for years.[/p][/quote]The grim discovery was made after bailiffs gained entry to the property to recover unpaid debts holdinkæft
  • Score: 0

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