Pleas for more police patrols after stabbing in Boscombe's Sovereign Centre

Bournemouth Echo: Police at the Sovereign Centre after the stabbing Police at the Sovereign Centre after the stabbing

CALLS for more police patrols have been made following a stabbing at the Sovereign Shopping Centre in Boscombe on Thursday.

Yesterday it was confirmed the victim of the attack, who is in his 20s, was a member of staff at the 99p store who worked on the shop floor.

At around 1pm he was stabbed inside the store before leaving the shop looking for help.

He was taken to Royal Bournemouth Hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

Following the attack, deputy mayor Phil Stanley Watts, who represents Boscombe West ward, said residents and traders had been calling for more police patrols in the area.

He said: “Although I know this incident took place in the day, I feel that the police patrols need to be stepped up especially in the evenings.

“The police box has obviously brought in a police presence. I think it’s helped but retailers all tell me they would like to see police patrols stepped up.”

He added: “Obviously I was shocked like everybody else and I still feel it’s an isolated incident. Boscombe is generally a safe place and it is a really excellent shopping centre.”

Residents and shoppers said they were shocked by the news and feared some people might be put off from visiting the area.

Speaking to the Daily Echo yesterday, 90-year-old Jean Peters said: “It’s a Friday and it’s usually quite busy but it seems a bit quieter today.

“I think some people would be put off coming here.”

The pensioner, who lives in Southbourne, added: “Boscombe is one of the poorer districts of Bournemouth.

“People say it’s improving but I really don’t know.”

Local resident Asli Akoglu added: “It’s a shame. Boscombe is meant to be doing well.

“I think the police box was helping people feel safe.”

Dorset Police said a man was due to appear before Bournemouth Magistrates on Saturday, May 10, in connection with the incident.

A spokesman from 99p Stores Ltd said: “We have been offering support to the family of the victim as well as the other staff who saw this awful incident.”

Praising the police officers and paramedics who were called to the scene, she added: “The emergency services were fantastic and everybody responded very quickly to the situation.”

Police are appealing for anyone who witnessed the incident to come forward.

Anyone with information is asked to call Dorset Police on 101 quoting incident number 8:171 or call Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555111.

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8:07am Sat 10 May 14

Huey says...

"I think the police box was helping people feel safe"
Hahahhahaha
"I think the police box was helping people feel safe" Hahahhahaha Huey
  • Score: 30

8:11am Sat 10 May 14

raffertyj4 says...

"Boscombe is generally a safe place and it is a really excellent shopping centre.”... He's kidding, right?
"Boscombe is generally a safe place and it is a really excellent shopping centre.”... He's kidding, right? raffertyj4
  • Score: 35

8:14am Sat 10 May 14

djd says...

How often do you actually see security patrolling inside the Sovereign Centre?
That was all cut back when the new owners bought it.
How often do you actually see security patrolling inside the Sovereign Centre? That was all cut back when the new owners bought it. djd
  • Score: 34

8:15am Sat 10 May 14

bosco1 says...

Deputy Mayor Phil Watts states "Boscombe is Generally a safe place "!!!Since when,?!! Next the powers to be be will be saying "Its an Isolated incident" and nothing to worry about....Right.!!! I dont think so.!
Deputy Mayor Phil Watts states "Boscombe is Generally a safe place "!!!Since when,?!! Next the powers to be be will be saying "Its an Isolated incident" and nothing to worry about....Right.!!! I dont think so.! bosco1
  • Score: 36

8:29am Sat 10 May 14

Controversial But True says...

More police? What police? This government has cut back so many that we just see those useless PCSOs wandering around, probably looking at their reflection in shop windows and thinking, "now if I'd just done a bit better at school...."!!!!
More police? What police? This government has cut back so many that we just see those useless PCSOs wandering around, probably looking at their reflection in shop windows and thinking, "now if I'd just done a bit better at school...."!!!! Controversial But True
  • Score: 35

8:32am Sat 10 May 14

pete woodley says...

bosco1 wrote:
Deputy Mayor Phil Watts states "Boscombe is Generally a safe place "!!!Since when,?!! Next the powers to be be will be saying "Its an Isolated incident" and nothing to worry about....Right.!!! I dont think so.!
Phils always been naive.
[quote][p][bold]bosco1[/bold] wrote: Deputy Mayor Phil Watts states "Boscombe is Generally a safe place "!!!Since when,?!! Next the powers to be be will be saying "Its an Isolated incident" and nothing to worry about....Right.!!! I dont think so.![/p][/quote]Phils always been naive. pete woodley
  • Score: 14

8:55am Sat 10 May 14

Boscomite says...

If Boscombe is such a safe place, how come the police are too afraid to patrol there at night? Mid-night to 6am is when they're needed most. Not just passing through in their cars, but on foot.
If Boscombe is such a safe place, how come the police are too afraid to patrol there at night? Mid-night to 6am is when they're needed most. Not just passing through in their cars, but on foot. Boscomite
  • Score: 16

9:16am Sat 10 May 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Unfortunatley Phil that is not going to happen as your party in partnership with the Lib Dems have cut the numbers of police officers and the tories have given us a top heavy two tier executive of Dorset Police with the appointment of a police and crime commisioner and its staff.Three more bobbies could be put on the streets as opposed to one pcc.

The pcc said on his election win 'Boscombe is a priority area.Anyone seen him since the early days ? Thought not .No because our pre-cept rise has been paying for rural policing..Doesn't need a rocket scientist to work that one out..Of course the pcc election is in May and not November so he has to be seen to get onside the tories and next time with better weather and light he may not get in.He's let Boscombe down ! especially after the promise.

Then Boscombe is getting two civil enforcement officers.So you have the police, pcso's, ceo's and neighbourhood wardens.How much do you want ? Other neighbourhoods don't even get a fraction of that.

Then Phil it was your idea to have a police box in Boscombe precinct.So what have you done.You made police officers or pcso's stand static instead of patrolling the streets.They stand there like they were in Madame Tussauds wondering what they are doing there and we as the public wonder that too.So desperate are the police to man it that if short an officer from the Westbourne SNT for example will be deployed leaving that area short.

Then you have got to look at those who are supposed to regenerating Boscombe.None of them live there ! Even i would say it was nice place and put balloons in the air if i was getting their salaries.

Then we had the BCIC (Boscombe Community Interest Company ) What happen to them ? Oh, i forgot they lost interest

They all know the main route problem is the housing stock and as much as they dress it up they will still not confront the landlords who provide unfit housing for high rents.Why, well we all know, one pulls the councillors strings..

Boscombe is Boscombe.Love it or leave it.Forget about regeneration it does not exist..The area will improve and then decline.Accept it.It will never return to how it was in the sixties.Shame that because that was the golden era of Boscombe.As for you additional policemen,Phil.The only additional ones you are going to get are cupboard cut-outs which will just fit nicely outside the tardis.I am sure your and the other councillor LIF money will fund that..
Unfortunatley Phil that is not going to happen as your party in partnership with the Lib Dems have cut the numbers of police officers and the tories have given us a top heavy two tier executive of Dorset Police with the appointment of a police and crime commisioner and its staff.Three more bobbies could be put on the streets as opposed to one pcc. The pcc said on his election win 'Boscombe is a priority area.Anyone seen him since the early days ? Thought not .No because our pre-cept rise has been paying for rural policing..Doesn't need a rocket scientist to work that one out..Of course the pcc election is in May and not November so he has to be seen to get onside the tories and next time with better weather and light he may not get in.He's let Boscombe down ! especially after the promise. Then Boscombe is getting two civil enforcement officers.So you have the police, pcso's, ceo's and neighbourhood wardens.How much do you want ? Other neighbourhoods don't even get a fraction of that. Then Phil it was your idea to have a police box in Boscombe precinct.So what have you done.You made police officers or pcso's stand static instead of patrolling the streets.They stand there like they were in Madame Tussauds wondering what they are doing there and we as the public wonder that too.So desperate are the police to man it that if short an officer from the Westbourne SNT for example will be deployed leaving that area short. Then you have got to look at those who are supposed to regenerating Boscombe.None of them live there ! Even i would say it was nice place and put balloons in the air if i was getting their salaries. Then we had the BCIC (Boscombe Community Interest Company ) What happen to them ? Oh, i forgot they lost interest They all know the main route problem is the housing stock and as much as they dress it up they will still not confront the landlords who provide unfit housing for high rents.Why, well we all know, one pulls the councillors strings.. Boscombe is Boscombe.Love it or leave it.Forget about regeneration it does not exist..The area will improve and then decline.Accept it.It will never return to how it was in the sixties.Shame that because that was the golden era of Boscombe.As for you additional policemen,Phil.The only additional ones you are going to get are cupboard cut-outs which will just fit nicely outside the tardis.I am sure your and the other councillor LIF money will fund that.. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 29

9:18am Sat 10 May 14

BIGTONE says...

A Dorset Police spokesman said a man in his 40s was arrested at the scene. He has been released on bail while officers continue their enquiries.



What? So he can finish him off?
A Dorset Police spokesman said a man in his 40s was arrested at the scene. He has been released on bail while officers continue their enquiries. What? So he can finish him off? BIGTONE
  • Score: 20

9:40am Sat 10 May 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Must have come as a shock when Kabul said no to a twinning deal.because of the crime rate
Must have come as a shock when Kabul said no to a twinning deal.because of the crime rate kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 17

10:32am Sat 10 May 14

ranger_bob says...

djd wrote:
How often do you actually see security patrolling inside the Sovereign Centre?
That was all cut back when the new owners bought it.
I saw one recently actually. He was very brave when he told me I couldn't wheel my bike through the centre. Not ride it, not scoot along on it but wheel it whilst I walk along side it.

Imagine the carnage that could have ensued. I could have been knocking over pensioners and small children left, right and centre. I'm glad they tackled me though and not the more vunerable people who make Boscombe so wonderfully diverse!
[quote][p][bold]djd[/bold] wrote: How often do you actually see security patrolling inside the Sovereign Centre? That was all cut back when the new owners bought it.[/p][/quote]I saw one recently actually. He was very brave when he told me I couldn't wheel my bike through the centre. Not ride it, not scoot along on it but wheel it whilst I walk along side it. Imagine the carnage that could have ensued. I could have been knocking over pensioners and small children left, right and centre. I'm glad they tackled me though and not the more vunerable people who make Boscombe so wonderfully diverse! ranger_bob
  • Score: 17

10:43am Sat 10 May 14

muscliffman says...

Boscombe is a very lucrative place for a handful of wealthy people who probably never venture anywhere near the place, but their interests are remarkably well represented inside the local 'establishment'.

So until there are substantial changes in this Bournemouth 'establishment' or indeed the way UK welfare payments are distributed we had best just get used to Boscombe in it's present dreadful state.

Because there appear to be NO authentic plans to improve it.
Boscombe is a very lucrative place for a handful of wealthy people who probably never venture anywhere near the place, but their interests are remarkably well represented inside the local 'establishment'. So until there are substantial changes in this Bournemouth 'establishment' or indeed the way UK welfare payments are distributed we had best just get used to Boscombe in it's present dreadful state. Because there appear to be NO authentic plans to improve it. muscliffman
  • Score: 18

10:52am Sat 10 May 14

Azphreal says...

“The police box has obviously brought in a police presence. I think it’s helped but retailers all tell me they would like to see police patrols stepped up.” How many police were guarding the box when it happened? Why is the CCTV camera outside KFC always on the bloody box (which has cameras on it). If he was SEEN stabbing the person,if the shop has CCTV that shows him stabbing them WHY are they on bail when its a clear cut case?
“The police box has obviously brought in a police presence. I think it’s helped but retailers all tell me they would like to see police patrols stepped up.” How many police were guarding the box when it happened? Why is the CCTV camera outside KFC always on the bloody box (which has cameras on it). If he was SEEN stabbing the person,if the shop has CCTV that shows him stabbing them WHY are they on bail when its a clear cut case? Azphreal
  • Score: 14

10:56am Sat 10 May 14

SympatheticSam says...

And people continue to defend Boscombe. This is too funny. Fet your head out of the sand.
And people continue to defend Boscombe. This is too funny. Fet your head out of the sand. SympatheticSam
  • Score: 7

11:06am Sat 10 May 14

bmthbouncer says...

Security in the center...... yeah there are plenty just look for them chatting the women up in the perfume shop or hanging around the gadget doctors then you will see them on 'patrol'
Security in the center...... yeah there are plenty just look for them chatting the women up in the perfume shop or hanging around the gadget doctors then you will see them on 'patrol' bmthbouncer
  • Score: 15

11:10am Sat 10 May 14

arthur1948 says...

they are too busy posing at the tardis....
they are too busy posing at the tardis.... arthur1948
  • Score: 10

11:14am Sat 10 May 14

Rabbitman64 says...

djd wrote:
How often do you actually see security patrolling inside the Sovereign Centre?
That was all cut back when the new owners bought it.
You are quite right, I haven't seen security guards in the shopping area for a long time. In the past you could approach the security guard about finding items in the shop and you would get help. However the main problem is with the cut-backs by this dreadful government and not to forget the possible closing of the Christchurch Police Station! If the council want to save money then they need to reduce the number of councillors. We do not need fifty-seven councillors with a Council Election once every four years and the system of Cabinet Councillors???
[quote][p][bold]djd[/bold] wrote: How often do you actually see security patrolling inside the Sovereign Centre? That was all cut back when the new owners bought it.[/p][/quote]You are quite right, I haven't seen security guards in the shopping area for a long time. In the past you could approach the security guard about finding items in the shop and you would get help. However the main problem is with the cut-backs by this dreadful government and not to forget the possible closing of the Christchurch Police Station! If the council want to save money then they need to reduce the number of councillors. We do not need fifty-seven councillors with a Council Election once every four years and the system of Cabinet Councillors??? Rabbitman64
  • Score: 10

11:33am Sat 10 May 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

In all these Boscombe rant threads nobody has dared to mention Dave Wells.
In all these Boscombe rant threads nobody has dared to mention Dave Wells. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 15

11:43am Sat 10 May 14

Controversial But True says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
In all these Boscombe rant threads nobody has dared to mention Dave Wells.
Dave Wells
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: In all these Boscombe rant threads nobody has dared to mention Dave Wells.[/p][/quote]Dave Wells Controversial But True
  • Score: 15

11:58am Sat 10 May 14

Townee says...

The next thing we will get cardboard police officers standing in areas that are not well patrolled. It just goes to show when you spend a lot of money to regenerate an area it doesn't work. Just watch horseshoe common area it will be next.
The next thing we will get cardboard police officers standing in areas that are not well patrolled. It just goes to show when you spend a lot of money to regenerate an area it doesn't work. Just watch horseshoe common area it will be next. Townee
  • Score: 4

12:11pm Sat 10 May 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Controversial But True wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
In all these Boscombe rant threads nobody has dared to mention Dave Wells.
Dave Wells
Who does he play for?
[quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: In all these Boscombe rant threads nobody has dared to mention Dave Wells.[/p][/quote]Dave Wells[/p][/quote]Who does he play for? kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 5

12:17pm Sat 10 May 14

smhinto says...

What Boscombe need is more Police foot patrols. i.e Policing on the ground.
.
I saw a police Constable on foot in Lincoln the other day, I said to him are you real or are you just a 'hollogram'. I don't believe he was amused by my crass sense of humour.
What Boscombe need is more Police foot patrols. i.e Policing on the ground. . I saw a police Constable on foot in Lincoln the other day, I said to him are you real or are you just a 'hollogram'. I don't believe he was amused by my crass sense of humour. smhinto
  • Score: 3

12:29pm Sat 10 May 14

DabGabby says...

just like to add hasn't anybody noticed that charminster next to boscombe is getting just as bad, its becoming a disease that is spreading of all cultures
just like to add hasn't anybody noticed that charminster next to boscombe is getting just as bad, its becoming a disease that is spreading of all cultures DabGabby
  • Score: 7

1:10pm Sat 10 May 14

skydriver says...

Of course there will be more police in the centre, because there still looking for Underhill's satnav.
Of course there will be more police in the centre, because there still looking for Underhill's satnav. skydriver
  • Score: 4

1:35pm Sat 10 May 14

Controversial But True says...

smhinto wrote:
What Boscombe need is more Police foot patrols. i.e Policing on the ground.
.
I saw a police Constable on foot in Lincoln the other day, I said to him are you real or are you just a 'hollogram'. I don't believe he was amused by my crass sense of humour.
Probably more shocked at your spelling of hologram!
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: What Boscombe need is more Police foot patrols. i.e Policing on the ground. . I saw a police Constable on foot in Lincoln the other day, I said to him are you real or are you just a 'hollogram'. I don't believe he was amused by my crass sense of humour.[/p][/quote]Probably more shocked at your spelling of hologram! Controversial But True
  • Score: 7

2:13pm Sat 10 May 14

muscliffman says...

DabGabby wrote:
just like to add hasn't anybody noticed that charminster next to boscombe is getting just as bad, its becoming a disease that is spreading of all cultures
I think popular opinion is that Winton is probably in second place to Boscombe, sadly it started deteriorating several years ago. But of course the 'infection' is spreading across town because nobody who can wants to cure it.

The common factors - HMOs and Landlords with the right connections making a mint out of them
[quote][p][bold]DabGabby[/bold] wrote: just like to add hasn't anybody noticed that charminster next to boscombe is getting just as bad, its becoming a disease that is spreading of all cultures[/p][/quote]I think popular opinion is that Winton is probably in second place to Boscombe, sadly it started deteriorating several years ago. But of course the 'infection' is spreading across town because nobody who can wants to cure it. The common factors - HMOs and Landlords with the right connections making a mint out of them muscliffman
  • Score: 6

3:19pm Sat 10 May 14

Clunge says...

To get the truth you need to ask a Police Officer what is going on, if you can find one. I have spoken to a few things over the years, so just ask them, those that are not gagged by bosses will speak freely.
Boscombe Police Station is empty except for PCSO's and a few Officers who are in charge of them. But they don't work nights, and the place is in darkness after around ten PM.
All the other Officers have moved to Bournemouth, hence the long line of Police cars clogging up Madeira Road at the Lansdown, so Boscombe does not get policed, they just drive to the odd job, then go and deal fights in the Bournemouth Continental Cafe Culture.
So Boscombe residents should ask the PCC why he has taken away their policing and ask exactly what they pay taxes for? Although to be fair many in Boscombe don't pay tax, unless its VAT on strong lager and fags from Bosvegas and other responsible retailers.
Meanwhile apparently the PCC pays good salaries to his growing empire to run his Facebook and Twitter accounts, and apparently spends a fortune on his Offices at his HQ, which is about 30 miles from Boscombe where most of the murders, shootings and drug dealing happens.
Meanwhile from the press reports Dorset Police are trying to sell off whatever assets the have to property developers for a few quid.
The chaps at the coalface seem to do their best but
To get the truth you need to ask a Police Officer what is going on, if you can find one. I have spoken to a few things over the years, so just ask them, those that are not gagged by bosses will speak freely. Boscombe Police Station is empty except for PCSO's and a few Officers who are in charge of them. But they don't work nights, and the place is in darkness after around ten PM. All the other Officers have moved to Bournemouth, hence the long line of Police cars clogging up Madeira Road at the Lansdown, so Boscombe does not get policed, they just drive to the odd job, then go and deal fights in the Bournemouth Continental Cafe Culture. So Boscombe residents should ask the PCC why he has taken away their policing and ask exactly what they pay taxes for? Although to be fair many in Boscombe don't pay tax, unless its VAT on strong lager and fags from Bosvegas and other responsible retailers. Meanwhile apparently the PCC pays good salaries to his growing empire to run his Facebook and Twitter accounts, and apparently spends a fortune on his Offices at his HQ, which is about 30 miles from Boscombe where most of the murders, shootings and drug dealing happens. Meanwhile from the press reports Dorset Police are trying to sell off whatever assets the have to property developers for a few quid. The chaps at the coalface seem to do their best but Clunge
  • Score: 10

6:08pm Sat 10 May 14

DabGabby says...

muscliffman wrote:
DabGabby wrote:
just like to add hasn't anybody noticed that charminster next to boscombe is getting just as bad, its becoming a disease that is spreading of all cultures
I think popular opinion is that Winton is probably in second place to Boscombe, sadly it started deteriorating several years ago. But of course the 'infection' is spreading across town because nobody who can wants to cure it.

The common factors - HMOs and Landlords with the right connections making a mint out of them
totally agree with you, stroll on in another decade what it will be like
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DabGabby[/bold] wrote: just like to add hasn't anybody noticed that charminster next to boscombe is getting just as bad, its becoming a disease that is spreading of all cultures[/p][/quote]I think popular opinion is that Winton is probably in second place to Boscombe, sadly it started deteriorating several years ago. But of course the 'infection' is spreading across town because nobody who can wants to cure it. The common factors - HMOs and Landlords with the right connections making a mint out of them[/p][/quote]totally agree with you, stroll on in another decade what it will be like DabGabby
  • Score: 7

6:58pm Sat 10 May 14

rozmister says...

Azphreal wrote:
“The police box has obviously brought in a police presence. I think it’s helped but retailers all tell me they would like to see police patrols stepped up.” How many police were guarding the box when it happened? Why is the CCTV camera outside KFC always on the bloody box (which has cameras on it). If he was SEEN stabbing the person,if the shop has CCTV that shows him stabbing them WHY are they on bail when its a clear cut case?
He isn't on bail he's been remanded in custody until he appears in court again. There may be CCTV in the store but they won't show it to anyone until the trial so as not to prejudice the case. Saying that the 99p shop has very narrow aisles with shelves stacked high so I'm sure there's blackspots.
[quote][p][bold]Azphreal[/bold] wrote: “The police box has obviously brought in a police presence. I think it’s helped but retailers all tell me they would like to see police patrols stepped up.” How many police were guarding the box when it happened? Why is the CCTV camera outside KFC always on the bloody box (which has cameras on it). If he was SEEN stabbing the person,if the shop has CCTV that shows him stabbing them WHY are they on bail when its a clear cut case?[/p][/quote]He isn't on bail he's been remanded in custody until he appears in court again. There may be CCTV in the store but they won't show it to anyone until the trial so as not to prejudice the case. Saying that the 99p shop has very narrow aisles with shelves stacked high so I'm sure there's blackspots. rozmister
  • Score: 1

7:27pm Sat 10 May 14

Rabbitman64 says...

skydriver wrote:
Of course there will be more police in the centre, because there still looking for Underhill's satnav.
As we are on unsolved crime and on a more serious matter, does anybody know who killed the Oakdale Conservative in December?
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: Of course there will be more police in the centre, because there still looking for Underhill's satnav.[/p][/quote]As we are on unsolved crime and on a more serious matter, does anybody know who killed the Oakdale Conservative in December? Rabbitman64
  • Score: 2

10:30pm Sat 10 May 14

afcdibby says...

smhinto wrote:
What Boscombe need is more Police foot patrols. i.e Policing on the ground.
.
I saw a police Constable on foot in Lincoln the other day, I said to him are you real or are you just a 'hollogram'. I don't believe he was amused by my crass sense of humour.
He was probably thinking........Are you really a football scout.
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: What Boscombe need is more Police foot patrols. i.e Policing on the ground. . I saw a police Constable on foot in Lincoln the other day, I said to him are you real or are you just a 'hollogram'. I don't believe he was amused by my crass sense of humour.[/p][/quote]He was probably thinking........Are you really a football scout. afcdibby
  • Score: -1

11:17pm Sat 10 May 14

vinmaster says...

no, it is a **** hole and nothing will change it. There are plenty of good hard working businessmen like myself working hard to sustain ourselves around the general day to day ****, but while Bournemouth council is bent and allowing our great town to be the drugs rehab capital of Europe nothing will change. And that's all I had to say about that.....
no, it is a **** hole and nothing will change it. There are plenty of good hard working businessmen like myself working hard to sustain ourselves around the general day to day ****, but while Bournemouth council is bent and allowing our great town to be the drugs rehab capital of Europe nothing will change. And that's all I had to say about that..... vinmaster
  • Score: 5

11:19pm Sat 10 May 14

vinmaster says...

politicaltrainspotte
r
wrote:
Unfortunatley Phil that is not going to happen as your party in partnership with the Lib Dems have cut the numbers of police officers and the tories have given us a top heavy two tier executive of Dorset Police with the appointment of a police and crime commisioner and its staff.Three more bobbies could be put on the streets as opposed to one pcc.

The pcc said on his election win 'Boscombe is a priority area.Anyone seen him since the early days ? Thought not .No because our pre-cept rise has been paying for rural policing..Doesn't need a rocket scientist to work that one out..Of course the pcc election is in May and not November so he has to be seen to get onside the tories and next time with better weather and light he may not get in.He's let Boscombe down ! especially after the promise.

Then Boscombe is getting two civil enforcement officers.So you have the police, pcso's, ceo's and neighbourhood wardens.How much do you want ? Other neighbourhoods don't even get a fraction of that.

Then Phil it was your idea to have a police box in Boscombe precinct.So what have you done.You made police officers or pcso's stand static instead of patrolling the streets.They stand there like they were in Madame Tussauds wondering what they are doing there and we as the public wonder that too.So desperate are the police to man it that if short an officer from the Westbourne SNT for example will be deployed leaving that area short.

Then you have got to look at those who are supposed to regenerating Boscombe.None of them live there ! Even i would say it was nice place and put balloons in the air if i was getting their salaries.

Then we had the BCIC (Boscombe Community Interest Company ) What happen to them ? Oh, i forgot they lost interest

They all know the main route problem is the housing stock and as much as they dress it up they will still not confront the landlords who provide unfit housing for high rents.Why, well we all know, one pulls the councillors strings..

Boscombe is Boscombe.Love it or leave it.Forget about regeneration it does not exist..The area will improve and then decline.Accept it.It will never return to how it was in the sixties.Shame that because that was the golden era of Boscombe.As for you additional policemen,Phil.The only additional ones you are going to get are cupboard cut-outs which will just fit nicely outside the tardis.I am sure your and the other councillor LIF money will fund that..
boring, just say it's ****....
[quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: Unfortunatley Phil that is not going to happen as your party in partnership with the Lib Dems have cut the numbers of police officers and the tories have given us a top heavy two tier executive of Dorset Police with the appointment of a police and crime commisioner and its staff.Three more bobbies could be put on the streets as opposed to one pcc. The pcc said on his election win 'Boscombe is a priority area.Anyone seen him since the early days ? Thought not .No because our pre-cept rise has been paying for rural policing..Doesn't need a rocket scientist to work that one out..Of course the pcc election is in May and not November so he has to be seen to get onside the tories and next time with better weather and light he may not get in.He's let Boscombe down ! especially after the promise. Then Boscombe is getting two civil enforcement officers.So you have the police, pcso's, ceo's and neighbourhood wardens.How much do you want ? Other neighbourhoods don't even get a fraction of that. Then Phil it was your idea to have a police box in Boscombe precinct.So what have you done.You made police officers or pcso's stand static instead of patrolling the streets.They stand there like they were in Madame Tussauds wondering what they are doing there and we as the public wonder that too.So desperate are the police to man it that if short an officer from the Westbourne SNT for example will be deployed leaving that area short. Then you have got to look at those who are supposed to regenerating Boscombe.None of them live there ! Even i would say it was nice place and put balloons in the air if i was getting their salaries. Then we had the BCIC (Boscombe Community Interest Company ) What happen to them ? Oh, i forgot they lost interest They all know the main route problem is the housing stock and as much as they dress it up they will still not confront the landlords who provide unfit housing for high rents.Why, well we all know, one pulls the councillors strings.. Boscombe is Boscombe.Love it or leave it.Forget about regeneration it does not exist..The area will improve and then decline.Accept it.It will never return to how it was in the sixties.Shame that because that was the golden era of Boscombe.As for you additional policemen,Phil.The only additional ones you are going to get are cupboard cut-outs which will just fit nicely outside the tardis.I am sure your and the other councillor LIF money will fund that..[/p][/quote]boring, just say it's ****.... vinmaster
  • Score: -5

11:23pm Sat 10 May 14

vinmaster says...

ranger_bob wrote:
djd wrote:
How often do you actually see security patrolling inside the Sovereign Centre?
That was all cut back when the new owners bought it.
I saw one recently actually. He was very brave when he told me I couldn't wheel my bike through the centre. Not ride it, not scoot along on it but wheel it whilst I walk along side it.

Imagine the carnage that could have ensued. I could have been knocking over pensioners and small children left, right and centre. I'm glad they tackled me though and not the more vunerable people who make Boscombe so wonderfully diverse!
not to mention Ray the fat **** center manager says they are not allowed to intervene, company policy it to hoover my biscuit crumbs from the floor of my office and stay out of trouble, god forbid they can catch a criminal even if they want to PMSL
[quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djd[/bold] wrote: How often do you actually see security patrolling inside the Sovereign Centre? That was all cut back when the new owners bought it.[/p][/quote]I saw one recently actually. He was very brave when he told me I couldn't wheel my bike through the centre. Not ride it, not scoot along on it but wheel it whilst I walk along side it. Imagine the carnage that could have ensued. I could have been knocking over pensioners and small children left, right and centre. I'm glad they tackled me though and not the more vunerable people who make Boscombe so wonderfully diverse![/p][/quote]not to mention Ray the fat **** center manager says they are not allowed to intervene, company policy it to hoover my biscuit crumbs from the floor of my office and stay out of trouble, god forbid they can catch a criminal even if they want to PMSL vinmaster
  • Score: 1

11:25pm Sat 10 May 14

vinmaster says...

bmthbouncer wrote:
Security in the center...... yeah there are plenty just look for them chatting the women up in the perfume shop or hanging around the gadget doctors then you will see them on 'patrol'
ohh you definatey are a regularrrrrrr
[quote][p][bold]bmthbouncer[/bold] wrote: Security in the center...... yeah there are plenty just look for them chatting the women up in the perfume shop or hanging around the gadget doctors then you will see them on 'patrol'[/p][/quote]ohh you definatey are a regularrrrrrr vinmaster
  • Score: 2

11:26pm Sat 10 May 14

vinmaster says...

Controversial But True wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
In all these Boscombe rant threads nobody has dared to mention Dave Wells.
Dave Wells
Nah, posh **** loves in sandbanks now
[quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: In all these Boscombe rant threads nobody has dared to mention Dave Wells.[/p][/quote]Dave Wells[/p][/quote]Nah, posh **** loves in sandbanks now vinmaster
  • Score: 1

12:11am Sun 11 May 14

mpdor says...

Firstly you cannot blame the on the beat copper, he/she is told what to do by superiors, so don't knock them, the blame lies in several areas,

1. There has got to be a NOTICABLE Police presence in the evening/night
2. Inspector weeks at Boscombe has got to admit that he does not have enough officers for the level of problems in Boscombe
3.A day in day out attack on the anti social and criminal brigade in Boscombe, from the bottom to the top, it must be relentless, so that the people who cause the problems in boscombe feel they are being targeted and harassed as much as they harass the people of Boscombe
4. Council must work with other towns to ensure they are providing rehab centres, at the moment many many people are coming to the area to use the residential rehab units that many towns no longer have, thus those with problems are migrating to the area to use these facilities, but they bring with them their anti social ways and criminal activities in funding their addictions, that creates a disproportionate number of crimes in the area
5.It is wrong to say that HMO PROPERTIES ARE NOT REGUALTED OR TARGETTED BY COUNCIL those who know the system no the penalties for badly run HMOs, check to see if a problem one is actually licensed as it should be under the law, we have a very good public protection office in Bmth that deals with housing phone them if you know of a problem house
6.Start by admitting the problems that exist, trying to pretend that there are no problems is doing a disservice to local people, start listening to ALL views and not just vested interests
7. Talk to the sovereign centre for a start about the empty units, did you know that the old TJ Hughes shop is up for rent at £300000 yes that's right three hundred thousand pounds, how long has the shop been empty? getting that rental income back may actually release more cash for the centre to employ more security, and yes the security guards (Not al) do seem to be more interested in chatting to shop girls instead of doing their job
8. Lets see our local policing policy makers brought to account, its about time they told us why if they know the best way, why do we still have all the problems with dealing with the local problem people who are the same lot day in day out, I do not pretend to know all the answers, all I know is that whats being done now is not working
Firstly you cannot blame the on the beat copper, he/she is told what to do by superiors, so don't knock them, the blame lies in several areas, 1. There has got to be a NOTICABLE Police presence in the evening/night 2. Inspector weeks at Boscombe has got to admit that he does not have enough officers for the level of problems in Boscombe 3.A day in day out attack on the anti social and criminal brigade in Boscombe, from the bottom to the top, it must be relentless, so that the people who cause the problems in boscombe feel they are being targeted and harassed as much as they harass the people of Boscombe 4. Council must work with other towns to ensure they are providing rehab centres, at the moment many many people are coming to the area to use the residential rehab units that many towns no longer have, thus those with problems are migrating to the area to use these facilities, but they bring with them their anti social ways and criminal activities in funding their addictions, that creates a disproportionate number of crimes in the area 5.It is wrong to say that HMO PROPERTIES ARE NOT REGUALTED OR TARGETTED BY COUNCIL those who know the system no the penalties for badly run HMOs, check to see if a problem one is actually licensed as it should be under the law, we have a very good public protection office in Bmth that deals with housing phone them if you know of a problem house 6.Start by admitting the problems that exist, trying to pretend that there are no problems is doing a disservice to local people, start listening to ALL views and not just vested interests 7. Talk to the sovereign centre for a start about the empty units, did you know that the old TJ Hughes shop is up for rent at £300000 yes that's right three hundred thousand pounds, how long has the shop been empty? getting that rental income back may actually release more cash for the centre to employ more security, and yes the security guards (Not al) do seem to be more interested in chatting to shop girls instead of doing their job 8. Lets see our local policing policy makers brought to account, its about time they told us why if they know the best way, why do we still have all the problems with dealing with the local problem people who are the same lot day in day out, I do not pretend to know all the answers, all I know is that whats being done now is not working mpdor
  • Score: 4

12:42am Sun 11 May 14

ashleycross says...

Azphreal wrote:
“The police box has obviously brought in a police presence. I think it’s helped but retailers all tell me they would like to see police patrols stepped up.” How many police were guarding the box when it happened? Why is the CCTV camera outside KFC always on the bloody box (which has cameras on it). If he was SEEN stabbing the person,if the shop has CCTV that shows him stabbing them WHY are they on bail when its a clear cut case?
How about the retailers actually reporting problems like begging, shoplifting, litter, drinking in the public areas etc. In my experience its hard enough to get retailers to even lock their bins at night to stop them being gone through so that there's litter everywhere by the morning. And as for actually reporting shoplifting, don't make me laugh. They don't want the hassle. It might be an idea for some of them to clean their gutters out as well. Another thing they could report is shops that sell booze to people already really drunk. completely illegal but goes on all the time in Boscombe and Charminster. More police isn't the answer. Reporting to the police is.
[quote][p][bold]Azphreal[/bold] wrote: “The police box has obviously brought in a police presence. I think it’s helped but retailers all tell me they would like to see police patrols stepped up.” How many police were guarding the box when it happened? Why is the CCTV camera outside KFC always on the bloody box (which has cameras on it). If he was SEEN stabbing the person,if the shop has CCTV that shows him stabbing them WHY are they on bail when its a clear cut case?[/p][/quote]How about the retailers actually reporting problems like begging, shoplifting, litter, drinking in the public areas etc. In my experience its hard enough to get retailers to even lock their bins at night to stop them being gone through so that there's litter everywhere by the morning. And as for actually reporting shoplifting, don't make me laugh. They don't want the hassle. It might be an idea for some of them to clean their gutters out as well. Another thing they could report is shops that sell booze to people already really drunk. completely illegal but goes on all the time in Boscombe and Charminster. More police isn't the answer. Reporting to the police is. ashleycross
  • Score: -1

12:47am Sun 11 May 14

ashleycross says...

We need loads more community groups involved in the Licensing policies right across the conurbation. Currently they are all dominated by the booze trade. People affected by out of control licensing of places serving people until they become blind drunk need to get together and make sure they are part of the consultation on the various towns' licensing policies.
We need loads more community groups involved in the Licensing policies right across the conurbation. Currently they are all dominated by the booze trade. People affected by out of control licensing of places serving people until they become blind drunk need to get together and make sure they are part of the consultation on the various towns' licensing policies. ashleycross
  • Score: 0

8:00am Sun 11 May 14

Dave2207 says...

Passing through Boscombe at 07:20, Saturday 10th May I saw:
(1) Three people, one in a sleeping-bag, under the overhang at the Library; tins of alcohol were being drunk.
(2) Two men, speaking loudly in an Eastern European language, loitering at the Bus Station drinking from cans of alcohol.
No doubt, If I had wandered about a bit more then I would have encountered many others. Well, Mr. Plod - if I can encounter them why can't you - and do something about it? There are many signs around Boscombe that declare that drinking in public is 'restricted' - but it does not seem to be enforced! These drunk destitutes constitute a visible reservoir of petty criminals, those who cause anti-social behaviour and those who - by their very presence - intimidate the local residents (especially the elderly). Feeding them, or giving them money, only encourages them to remain in the area and, enables them to buy even more booze. In the 'wild-west', the local sheriff would run these people out of town; what can Mr. Plod do? (Send ideas soon, somebody!)
Passing through Boscombe at 07:20, Saturday 10th May I saw: (1) Three people, one in a sleeping-bag, under the overhang at the Library; tins of alcohol were being drunk. (2) Two men, speaking loudly in an Eastern European language, loitering at the Bus Station drinking from cans of alcohol. No doubt, If I had wandered about a bit more then I would have encountered many others. Well, Mr. Plod - if I can encounter them why can't you - and do something about it? There are many signs around Boscombe that declare that drinking in public is 'restricted' - but it does not seem to be enforced! These drunk destitutes constitute a visible reservoir of petty criminals, those who cause anti-social behaviour and those who - by their very presence - intimidate the local residents (especially the elderly). Feeding them, or giving them money, only encourages them to remain in the area and, enables them to buy even more booze. In the 'wild-west', the local sheriff would run these people out of town; what can Mr. Plod do? (Send ideas soon, somebody!) Dave2207
  • Score: 5

8:21am Sun 11 May 14

Huey says...

Dave2207 wrote:
Passing through Boscombe at 07:20, Saturday 10th May I saw:
(1) Three people, one in a sleeping-bag, under the overhang at the Library; tins of alcohol were being drunk.
(2) Two men, speaking loudly in an Eastern European language, loitering at the Bus Station drinking from cans of alcohol.
No doubt, If I had wandered about a bit more then I would have encountered many others. Well, Mr. Plod - if I can encounter them why can't you - and do something about it? There are many signs around Boscombe that declare that drinking in public is 'restricted' - but it does not seem to be enforced! These drunk destitutes constitute a visible reservoir of petty criminals, those who cause anti-social behaviour and those who - by their very presence - intimidate the local residents (especially the elderly). Feeding them, or giving them money, only encourages them to remain in the area and, enables them to buy even more booze. In the 'wild-west', the local sheriff would run these people out of town; what can Mr. Plod do? (Send ideas soon, somebody!)
Organise some local vigilantes to give the undesirables a boot party?
[quote][p][bold]Dave2207[/bold] wrote: Passing through Boscombe at 07:20, Saturday 10th May I saw: (1) Three people, one in a sleeping-bag, under the overhang at the Library; tins of alcohol were being drunk. (2) Two men, speaking loudly in an Eastern European language, loitering at the Bus Station drinking from cans of alcohol. No doubt, If I had wandered about a bit more then I would have encountered many others. Well, Mr. Plod - if I can encounter them why can't you - and do something about it? There are many signs around Boscombe that declare that drinking in public is 'restricted' - but it does not seem to be enforced! These drunk destitutes constitute a visible reservoir of petty criminals, those who cause anti-social behaviour and those who - by their very presence - intimidate the local residents (especially the elderly). Feeding them, or giving them money, only encourages them to remain in the area and, enables them to buy even more booze. In the 'wild-west', the local sheriff would run these people out of town; what can Mr. Plod do? (Send ideas soon, somebody!)[/p][/quote]Organise some local vigilantes to give the undesirables a boot party? Huey
  • Score: 6

11:05am Sun 11 May 14

Stopmoaninganddo1 says...

The security Do nothing sorry to say, I have only seen one and every time I see him,heś trying to chat up the girl in the perfume shop all the time
The security Do nothing sorry to say, I have only seen one and every time I see him,heś trying to chat up the girl in the perfume shop all the time Stopmoaninganddo1
  • Score: 1

11:06am Sun 11 May 14

Stopmoaninganddo1 says...

vinmaster wrote:
bmthbouncer wrote:
Security in the center...... yeah there are plenty just look for them chatting the women up in the perfume shop or hanging around the gadget doctors then you will see them on 'patrol'
ohh you definatey are a regularrrrrrr
hehe yes said exactly the same even before I read your comment!!
[quote][p][bold]vinmaster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bmthbouncer[/bold] wrote: Security in the center...... yeah there are plenty just look for them chatting the women up in the perfume shop or hanging around the gadget doctors then you will see them on 'patrol'[/p][/quote]ohh you definatey are a regularrrrrrr[/p][/quote]hehe yes said exactly the same even before I read your comment!! Stopmoaninganddo1
  • Score: 0

11:24am Sun 11 May 14

Azphreal says...

ashleycross wrote:
Azphreal wrote:
“The police box has obviously brought in a police presence. I think it’s helped but retailers all tell me they would like to see police patrols stepped up.” How many police were guarding the box when it happened? Why is the CCTV camera outside KFC always on the bloody box (which has cameras on it). If he was SEEN stabbing the person,if the shop has CCTV that shows him stabbing them WHY are they on bail when its a clear cut case?
How about the retailers actually reporting problems like begging, shoplifting, litter, drinking in the public areas etc. In my experience its hard enough to get retailers to even lock their bins at night to stop them being gone through so that there's litter everywhere by the morning. And as for actually reporting shoplifting, don't make me laugh. They don't want the hassle. It might be an idea for some of them to clean their gutters out as well. Another thing they could report is shops that sell booze to people already really drunk. completely illegal but goes on all the time in Boscombe and Charminster. More police isn't the answer. Reporting to the police is.
DO you think maybe the reason they do not report these things is that by the time the police actually get there its too late most of the time. I reported a house alarm going off and after 45 minutes i became fed up of waiting so left as the police had still not turned up. Did not think that shops selling drink to a drunk person is a criminal matter but i guess i was wrong if you say they can be reported to police but your comments still do not explain why the police should spend most of their time guarding a big box?
[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Azphreal[/bold] wrote: “The police box has obviously brought in a police presence. I think it’s helped but retailers all tell me they would like to see police patrols stepped up.” How many police were guarding the box when it happened? Why is the CCTV camera outside KFC always on the bloody box (which has cameras on it). If he was SEEN stabbing the person,if the shop has CCTV that shows him stabbing them WHY are they on bail when its a clear cut case?[/p][/quote]How about the retailers actually reporting problems like begging, shoplifting, litter, drinking in the public areas etc. In my experience its hard enough to get retailers to even lock their bins at night to stop them being gone through so that there's litter everywhere by the morning. And as for actually reporting shoplifting, don't make me laugh. They don't want the hassle. It might be an idea for some of them to clean their gutters out as well. Another thing they could report is shops that sell booze to people already really drunk. completely illegal but goes on all the time in Boscombe and Charminster. More police isn't the answer. Reporting to the police is.[/p][/quote]DO you think maybe the reason they do not report these things is that by the time the police actually get there its too late most of the time. I reported a house alarm going off and after 45 minutes i became fed up of waiting so left as the police had still not turned up. Did not think that shops selling drink to a drunk person is a criminal matter but i guess i was wrong if you say they can be reported to police but your comments still do not explain why the police should spend most of their time guarding a big box? Azphreal
  • Score: -1

2:18pm Sun 11 May 14

ProgressiveBournemouth says...

I see we have some xenophobic knuckedraggers blaming the elusive "eastern Europeans" rather than the real problem, which is the Tory government making huge cuts to public spending - it was inevitable that street policing was going to be seriously reduced by spending cuts.
I see we have some xenophobic knuckedraggers blaming the elusive "eastern Europeans" rather than the real problem, which is the Tory government making huge cuts to public spending - it was inevitable that street policing was going to be seriously reduced by spending cuts. ProgressiveBournemouth
  • Score: -4

3:39pm Sun 11 May 14

Dave2207 says...

ProgressiveBournemou
th
wrote:
I see we have some xenophobic knuckedraggers blaming the elusive "eastern Europeans" rather than the real problem, which is the Tory government making huge cuts to public spending - it was inevitable that street policing was going to be seriously reduced by spending cuts.
My ears can recognise an East European language, even when slurred by early-morning booze!
Government cuts (i.e. to welfare) mean less taxes and, since I am a taxpayer, I am in favour of less of MY money being taken from me and handed-out willy-nilly to deadbeats and foreigners (that's not xenophobic, it's economic!)
[quote][p][bold]ProgressiveBournemou th[/bold] wrote: I see we have some xenophobic knuckedraggers blaming the elusive "eastern Europeans" rather than the real problem, which is the Tory government making huge cuts to public spending - it was inevitable that street policing was going to be seriously reduced by spending cuts.[/p][/quote]My ears can recognise an East European language, even when slurred by early-morning booze! Government cuts (i.e. to welfare) mean less taxes and, since I am a taxpayer, I am in favour of less of MY money being taken from me and handed-out willy-nilly to deadbeats and foreigners (that's not xenophobic, it's economic!) Dave2207
  • Score: 1

2:07pm Mon 12 May 14

speedy231278 says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Controversial But True wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
In all these Boscombe rant threads nobody has dared to mention Dave Wells.
Dave Wells
Who does he play for?
No-one, they all play for him!
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: In all these Boscombe rant threads nobody has dared to mention Dave Wells.[/p][/quote]Dave Wells[/p][/quote]Who does he play for?[/p][/quote]No-one, they all play for him! speedy231278
  • Score: 0

2:11pm Mon 12 May 14

speedy231278 says...

“The police box has obviously brought in a police presence. I think it’s helped but retailers all tell me they would like to see police patrols stepped up.”

Now, I'm clearly not intelligent enough to be a deputy mayor, but does the second sentence here not all but contradict the first? If there was the police presence necessary, the retailers would not be asking for more, would they?
“The police box has obviously brought in a police presence. I think it’s helped but retailers all tell me they would like to see police patrols stepped up.” Now, I'm clearly not intelligent enough to be a deputy mayor, but does the second sentence here not all but contradict the first? If there was the police presence necessary, the retailers would not be asking for more, would they? speedy231278
  • Score: 1

10:57pm Mon 12 May 14

scrumpyjack says...

rozmister wrote:
Azphreal wrote:
“The police box has obviously brought in a police presence. I think it’s helped but retailers all tell me they would like to see police patrols stepped up.” How many police were guarding the box when it happened? Why is the CCTV camera outside KFC always on the bloody box (which has cameras on it). If he was SEEN stabbing the person,if the shop has CCTV that shows him stabbing them WHY are they on bail when its a clear cut case?
He isn't on bail he's been remanded in custody until he appears in court again. There may be CCTV in the store but they won't show it to anyone until the trial so as not to prejudice the case. Saying that the 99p shop has very narrow aisles with shelves stacked high so I'm sure there's blackspots.
"I'm sure there's blackspots.' Best choice of phrase?
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Azphreal[/bold] wrote: “The police box has obviously brought in a police presence. I think it’s helped but retailers all tell me they would like to see police patrols stepped up.” How many police were guarding the box when it happened? Why is the CCTV camera outside KFC always on the bloody box (which has cameras on it). If he was SEEN stabbing the person,if the shop has CCTV that shows him stabbing them WHY are they on bail when its a clear cut case?[/p][/quote]He isn't on bail he's been remanded in custody until he appears in court again. There may be CCTV in the store but they won't show it to anyone until the trial so as not to prejudice the case. Saying that the 99p shop has very narrow aisles with shelves stacked high so I'm sure there's blackspots.[/p][/quote]"I'm sure there's blackspots.' Best choice of phrase? scrumpyjack
  • Score: -1

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