Hotel group wants to demolish failing East Cliff hotels

A new cliff lift, a 4,000sq ft room and two apartment blocks: ambitious plans to replace failing Bournemouth hotels

A new cliff lift, a 4,000sq ft room and two apartment blocks: ambitious plans to replace failing Bournemouth hotels

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PLANS to demolish three “unviable” hotels on East Cliff and replace them with a luxury hotel and two blocks of flats have been revealed.

Representatives from the developers Quantum Group presented plans to demolish Ocean View, Cottonwood and Bay View Hotels on Grove Road and replace them with a four star hotel and two apartment blocks to Bournemouth Borough Council’s Planning Board yesterday evening.

Representatives from the developers told the board the flats would be supported living properties marketed at elderly residents.

David Hines, chief executive of the Bournemouth-based developers, said the group bought the three former Victorian gentlemen’s residences three years ago but despite investment the hotels remain unviable.

He told the board: “We have spent in excess of a million pound in the last three years and we are still losing money.”

Bournemouth Echo: A visual of how the plans could look

Describing the plans as a “huge opportunity” for East Cliff and the rest of the town, Mr Hines said the new hotel would be capable of hosting large conferences and functions.

“It has one room of 4,000sqft without pillars overlooking The Needles across to Old Harry Rocks. I can’t find a room anywhere of that scale on the South Coast.”

Mr Hines said the group would also consider putting up the funds for a cliff lift to be installed near the hotel, subject to agreement from the council and other landowners.

Sam Hobson, lead architect at Quantum Group, said the hotel would consist of 93 bedrooms across six storeys and would be of a modern and contemporary design.

The residential buildings would be seven and 11 storeys high, he added.

The plans also include an underground car park consisting of 227 spaces.

Quantum Group is expected to submit a full planning application for the two and a half acre site later this summer.

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9:46am Tue 22 Jul 14

BmthNewshound says...

This isn't the first time Quantum Group have expressed a wish to develop the site. Whilst Bournemouths aging hotels are in need of replacement the town really needs more affordable housing for working age people not more supported living properties for elderly residents.
This isn't the first time Quantum Group have expressed a wish to develop the site. Whilst Bournemouths aging hotels are in need of replacement the town really needs more affordable housing for working age people not more supported living properties for elderly residents. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 19

10:26am Tue 22 Jul 14

QP-retired says...

A 4000 ft 'conference' room with only 93 bedrooms?? Hmmm!!!
"I can't find a room of that size anywhere on the South Coast" - well they can't have looked very far, can they?!
This is not the first time a scheme has been proposed for these 3 properties. Wasn't the last one for 2 joined-up hotels and a nursing home??

I'm all for improving the quality, ie replacing unprofitable 3 stars with a bigger 4 star hotel, but it has to be right for the position.
A 4000 ft 'conference' room with only 93 bedrooms?? Hmmm!!! "I can't find a room of that size anywhere on the South Coast" - well they can't have looked very far, can they?! This is not the first time a scheme has been proposed for these 3 properties. Wasn't the last one for 2 joined-up hotels and a nursing home?? I'm all for improving the quality, ie replacing unprofitable 3 stars with a bigger 4 star hotel, but it has to be right for the position. QP-retired
  • Score: -2

10:38am Tue 22 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

If they can't make a profit there from three stars, how will they with four?
If they can't make a profit there from three stars, how will they with four? speedy231278
  • Score: -4

12:19pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Alwyn_Ladell says...

I am not just fed up but increasingly enraged that these ideas are being countenanced. THIS IS A CONSERVATION AREA - does that mean nothing? Apparently not! Bournemouth is rapidly become a byword for bad planning again.

The Council Planning Department has recently decided the most complete Victorian mansion, Radcliffe Court, a few doors along, built by a millionaire railway pioneer, of local brick, and with a grand porte-cochère undercover carriage entrance, can be torn down in favour of a monstrous concrete block of flats. This is despite representations by English Heritage, the Victorian Society, and the Ancient Monuments Society. It even features in the Victorian Society’s latest magazine.

And the Planning Department is considering the demolition of THREE cliff top hotels nearby to make way for another architectural disaster right on the cliff edge. Are they making fun of us? Have they learned nothing from the disasters of Albany and Admiral's Walk which scar our once beautiful coastline? Manor Road and the Overcliff Drive are part of the earliest development of Bournemouth, cut out of the maturing Hinton Wood plantation, which stretched from Bath Road to Boscombe Chine. Bournemouth's growth and prosperity lay in attracting visitors to a beautiful town. We are trashing our assets to line the pockets of developers, appease imposed housing quotas, and squeeze out a few more pounds by cramming in more Council Tax payers. This is greatly devaluing our town and turning it into something akin to central Basingstoke.

It's happening all over the town and it's happening now. The ugliest of towers is being erected where the geographical feature, Terrace Mount, has been quarried out of Exeter Road: thousands of tons of sand have been carted away and are replaced by concrete as the residents of West Cliff Road well know with trucks and concrete mixers hurtling through many times a day. Exeter Road is where the town began, with Tregonwell’s first villa, and will cast a terrible shadow right across the Square to Bourne Avenue. One of Robert Kerley's first villas, which became the Bournemouth International Hotel, is about to be flattened for another grim block. The Council has just given up the fight to rebuild a low profile bus station and allow another cinema complex by the Square (remember the last hated attempt by the pier, need I spell out the word IMAX?), and this will mean the closure of the cinemas in Westover Road. The green lung of Horseshoe Common is being eroded by a multi-story car park and student accommodation right on the edge of the Wessex Way (which has required the felling of scores of trees). The Winter Gardens site will soon be lost, the slice of gardens and car park opposite the Royal Bath will be up for grabs, as will Hinton Road Car Park. The Belvedere Hotel (which was three hotels) is about to be razed to the ground, the Christadelphian Church is now a pile of rubble awaiting ... yes, you guessed, more student accommodation! When the University was proposed, we were told it would bring culture to the town. Instead we have the concert hall demolished, theatres closed and now it wants to end 162 years of cricket at Dean Park.

Many more horrors are planned and it is high time we stood up to these unwanted and unpopular betrayals. If our Councillors can't be bothered to protect our town, they must be replaced by others who can. COUNCILLORS: Stand up to the greedy developers that are ruining Bournemouth or step aside!
I am not just fed up but increasingly enraged that these ideas are being countenanced. THIS IS A CONSERVATION AREA - does that mean nothing? Apparently not! Bournemouth is rapidly become a byword for bad planning again. The Council Planning Department has recently decided the most complete Victorian mansion, Radcliffe Court, a few doors along, built by a millionaire railway pioneer, of local brick, and with a grand porte-cochère undercover carriage entrance, can be torn down in favour of a monstrous concrete block of flats. This is despite representations by English Heritage, the Victorian Society, and the Ancient Monuments Society. It even features in the Victorian Society’s latest magazine. And the Planning Department is considering the demolition of THREE cliff top hotels nearby to make way for another architectural disaster right on the cliff edge. Are they making fun of us? Have they learned nothing from the disasters of Albany and Admiral's Walk which scar our once beautiful coastline? Manor Road and the Overcliff Drive are part of the earliest development of Bournemouth, cut out of the maturing Hinton Wood plantation, which stretched from Bath Road to Boscombe Chine. Bournemouth's growth and prosperity lay in attracting visitors to a beautiful town. We are trashing our assets to line the pockets of developers, appease imposed housing quotas, and squeeze out a few more pounds by cramming in more Council Tax payers. This is greatly devaluing our town and turning it into something akin to central Basingstoke. It's happening all over the town and it's happening now. The ugliest of towers is being erected where the geographical feature, Terrace Mount, has been quarried out of Exeter Road: thousands of tons of sand have been carted away and are replaced by concrete as the residents of West Cliff Road well know with trucks and concrete mixers hurtling through many times a day. Exeter Road is where the town began, with Tregonwell’s first villa, and will cast a terrible shadow right across the Square to Bourne Avenue. One of Robert Kerley's first villas, which became the Bournemouth International Hotel, is about to be flattened for another grim block. The Council has just given up the fight to rebuild a low profile bus station and allow another cinema complex by the Square (remember the last hated attempt by the pier, need I spell out the word IMAX?), and this will mean the closure of the cinemas in Westover Road. The green lung of Horseshoe Common is being eroded by a multi-story car park and student accommodation right on the edge of the Wessex Way (which has required the felling of scores of trees). The Winter Gardens site will soon be lost, the slice of gardens and car park opposite the Royal Bath will be up for grabs, as will Hinton Road Car Park. The Belvedere Hotel (which was three hotels) is about to be razed to the ground, the Christadelphian Church is now a pile of rubble awaiting ... yes, you guessed, more student accommodation! When the University was proposed, we were told it would bring culture to the town. Instead we have the concert hall demolished, theatres closed and now it wants to end 162 years of cricket at Dean Park. Many more horrors are planned and it is high time we stood up to these unwanted and unpopular betrayals. If our Councillors can't be bothered to protect our town, they must be replaced by others who can. COUNCILLORS: Stand up to the greedy developers that are ruining Bournemouth or step aside! Alwyn_Ladell
  • Score: 57

3:23pm Tue 22 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

Here, here! Or is it hear, hear? Never been sure....
Here, here! Or is it hear, hear? Never been sure.... speedy231278
  • Score: 0

4:44pm Tue 22 Jul 14

geoffrey says...

Wow!
Someone willing to demolish 3 run down hotels and invest in the East Cliff area. That's fantastic! This could be a real boost to the area, if the Council fast tracks the application and it actually comes to fruition.
As for "Conservation Area", the East Cliff was never suitable. All the buildings worth conserving (well, almost all) were knocked down years ago. Exactly what is it about shabby 1960's blocks of flats and that so excites those who seem to be mired in the past and now object to anything that smacks of progress?
Wow! Someone willing to demolish 3 run down hotels and invest in the East Cliff area. That's fantastic! This could be a real boost to the area, if the Council fast tracks the application and it actually comes to fruition. As for "Conservation Area", the East Cliff was never suitable. All the buildings worth conserving (well, almost all) were knocked down years ago. Exactly what is it about shabby 1960's blocks of flats and that so excites those who seem to be mired in the past and now object to anything that smacks of progress? geoffrey
  • Score: -3

6:48pm Tue 22 Jul 14

uvox44 says...

hmm better stock up on plain brown envelopes, they may be in short supply soon.....
hmm better stock up on plain brown envelopes, they may be in short supply soon..... uvox44
  • Score: 4

8:04pm Tue 22 Jul 14

chelsea53 says...

Lots of companies need large conferencing rooms. There aren't many in Bournemouth. There are 100s of nearby hotels who could accommodate the candidates. You don't need to stay at the conference hotel , just have it nearby. Excellent idea. What else. Just shut the hotels ?
Lots of companies need large conferencing rooms. There aren't many in Bournemouth. There are 100s of nearby hotels who could accommodate the candidates. You don't need to stay at the conference hotel , just have it nearby. Excellent idea. What else. Just shut the hotels ? chelsea53
  • Score: 1

12:25am Wed 23 Jul 14

wadjit says...

Great idea. As long as the buildings look great and are of very high build quality then this is the perfect area for new hotels and flats. As long as the feeling of open space is not lost in this area.
Great idea. As long as the buildings look great and are of very high build quality then this is the perfect area for new hotels and flats. As long as the feeling of open space is not lost in this area. wadjit
  • Score: 0

2:32am Wed 23 Jul 14

Chiqqy says...

The Quantum Group never bought these hotels as a going concern. They were always wanting to knock them down. A friend of mine worked for two days in the Cottonwood and was told they had bought the hotels so they could demolish them and build flats but the council wouldn't allow it so they were "forced" to run the hotels. This was around four years ago. The addition of the four star hotel onto the planning application is just a way of manipulating the planning rules.
The Quantum Group never bought these hotels as a going concern. They were always wanting to knock them down. A friend of mine worked for two days in the Cottonwood and was told they had bought the hotels so they could demolish them and build flats but the council wouldn't allow it so they were "forced" to run the hotels. This was around four years ago. The addition of the four star hotel onto the planning application is just a way of manipulating the planning rules. Chiqqy
  • Score: 6

7:38am Wed 23 Jul 14

KKen96 says...

Couldn't they start on the West Cliff? Some of the old hotels there have been boarded up for years!
Couldn't they start on the West Cliff? Some of the old hotels there have been boarded up for years! KKen96
  • Score: 2

9:27am Wed 23 Jul 14

old duffa says...

what a great site,new hotel,new flats,money for the town
move forward old bournemouth
well done quantum
what a great site,new hotel,new flats,money for the town move forward old bournemouth well done quantum old duffa
  • Score: 0

10:49am Wed 23 Jul 14

GeorgeW64 says...

Great idea if we have nice weather like we are at the moment, but when we have wet summers like we normally do they will lose money again.
Great idea if we have nice weather like we are at the moment, but when we have wet summers like we normally do they will lose money again. GeorgeW64
  • Score: -3

11:19am Wed 23 Jul 14

wadjit says...

The planning and design of the buildings is so important. Awful design and build quality is usually the main problem with these big ideas.
The planning and design of the buildings is so important. Awful design and build quality is usually the main problem with these big ideas. wadjit
  • Score: 1

11:44am Wed 23 Jul 14

ragdoll91 says...

It is SUCH a shame. If they aren't making money as hotels convert the existing buildings into affordable flats. We need more affordable homes for young people and young families.
Every time I walk by Alum Chine, I want to cry at the lovely old houses they have knocked down, only to build some monstrosity of really expensive flats which aren't very liveable in its place.
I love the feel of Bouremouth, and the history of the buildings and the open space.
Once these historic buildings and old trees are gone we can't get them back. We already have a huge new Hilton being built - at least that was on a car park.
And come on.. do you really think if they built supported living it is going to smack of progress. No. Its going to be another hideous Sunrise eyesore - hardly an architectural gem.
It is SUCH a shame. If they aren't making money as hotels convert the existing buildings into affordable flats. We need more affordable homes for young people and young families. Every time I walk by Alum Chine, I want to cry at the lovely old houses they have knocked down, only to build some monstrosity of really expensive flats which aren't very liveable in its place. I love the feel of Bouremouth, and the history of the buildings and the open space. Once these historic buildings and old trees are gone we can't get them back. We already have a huge new Hilton being built - at least that was on a car park. And come on.. do you really think if they built supported living it is going to smack of progress. No. Its going to be another hideous Sunrise eyesore - hardly an architectural gem. ragdoll91
  • Score: -1

3:08pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Afterhours says...

ragdoll91 wrote:
It is SUCH a shame. If they aren't making money as hotels convert the existing buildings into affordable flats. We need more affordable homes for young people and young families.
Every time I walk by Alum Chine, I want to cry at the lovely old houses they have knocked down, only to build some monstrosity of really expensive flats which aren't very liveable in its place.
I love the feel of Bouremouth, and the history of the buildings and the open space.
Once these historic buildings and old trees are gone we can't get them back. We already have a huge new Hilton being built - at least that was on a car park.
And come on.. do you really think if they built supported living it is going to smack of progress. No. Its going to be another hideous Sunrise eyesore - hardly an architectural gem.
Excuse me....Sunrise eyesore......I would say a well developed site. That brings much needed jobs to the area....with over 100 residents (and a waiting list) also a much needed business that is well run and does an awful lot to fit in with its existing environment...... Change has to happen and well managed change should be encouraged and embraced !!!!
[quote][p][bold]ragdoll91[/bold] wrote: It is SUCH a shame. If they aren't making money as hotels convert the existing buildings into affordable flats. We need more affordable homes for young people and young families. Every time I walk by Alum Chine, I want to cry at the lovely old houses they have knocked down, only to build some monstrosity of really expensive flats which aren't very liveable in its place. I love the feel of Bouremouth, and the history of the buildings and the open space. Once these historic buildings and old trees are gone we can't get them back. We already have a huge new Hilton being built - at least that was on a car park. And come on.. do you really think if they built supported living it is going to smack of progress. No. Its going to be another hideous Sunrise eyesore - hardly an architectural gem.[/p][/quote]Excuse me....Sunrise eyesore......I would say a well developed site. That brings much needed jobs to the area....with over 100 residents (and a waiting list) also a much needed business that is well run and does an awful lot to fit in with its existing environment...... Change has to happen and well managed change should be encouraged and embraced !!!! Afterhours
  • Score: 4

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