Matthew James had denied two counts relating to the death of 23-year-old Daniel Robbie in September last year

Bournemouth Echo: Young father Daniel Robbie was killed as he rode a micro-scooter along the Upton Bypass Young father Daniel Robbie was killed as he rode a micro-scooter along the Upton Bypass

A DELIVERY driver who hit a young father as he rode a micro-scooter home along a bypass failed to stop or report the accident to police.

Matthew James, of Stoneylawn in Winterborne Kingston, struck 23-year-old Daniel Robbie, of Throop Close, Bournemouth, shortly before 6am on September 14 last year.

The 27-year-old – who did not face a charge of death by careless driving - had “lied repeatedly” to his girlfriend and family, claiming he had hit a badger that he’d seen run into the path of his Toyota van.

He later admitted to police that he had made up the account.

The defendant told the court that he had been driving to work on the Upton Bypass when he heard an "impact" and realised his left wing mirror had been knocked off and his windscreen was partially smashed.

However, he said he had no idea of what he had hit, and assumed the crash involved wildlife.

In fact, the vehicle had struck Mr Robbie, who had been travelling along the unlit stretch of road wearing black clothing.

His body was found partially concealed in undergrowth by a family member 32 hours later.

"As I was looking in my right wing mirror, I felt this thud on the side of the vehicle," he said, adding that he didn't brake or stop, instead returning minutes later in a work vehicle.

"I had my hazard lights on and I was travelling between 10 and 15 miles per hour," he said.
"I saw a bit of road debris but nothing that stood out."

However, the following day, the defendant read an article on the Daily Echo’s website, which reported that that a man had been killed along the stretch of road.

The defendant searched Google on his phone in the early hours of the next morning for the term 'crush my car'.

Prosecutor Charles Nightingale told James: "You willfully closed your eyes to the obvious, pretending you don't know you have hit something and making sure you're not going to know."

He added: "I don't know whether he convinced himself, but he certainly took steps to convince others around him [that he had hit a badger]."

James had denied failing to stop at the scene of an accident and failing to report an accident, but was today found guilty at Bournemouth Magistrates’ Court.

Presiding magistrate John Corben said: “We find you deliberately closed your eyes to events and didn’t face up to the implications.”

James will be sentenced on July 23.

Family pay tribute to "caring and considerate" young father

Mr Robbie’s parents, Julie Croucher and Graham Robbie, called their son “a very caring and considerate person who didn’t have a bad bone in his body”.

“He was always there to help others,” they said.

“He was a loving son, brother and father to three young children, who have to grow up without their daddy.

“A day never goes by when we as a family don’t think of him. He will be forever in our hearts.”

They added: “How can somebody live with themselves knowing what they have done, and not have the decency to contact the police and do the right thing?

“No punishment is enough, and I hope that person lives with that for the rest of their lives like we have to live each day without Dan.”

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5:43pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Huey says...

Yeah he should have stopped etc but riding a child's scooter in darkness wearing dark clothing on a busy road with fast moving traffic is a very very silly choice to make.
Yeah he should have stopped etc but riding a child's scooter in darkness wearing dark clothing on a busy road with fast moving traffic is a very very silly choice to make. Huey
  • Score: 144

6:27pm Fri 27 Jun 14

we-shall-see says...

Huey wrote:
Yeah he should have stopped etc but riding a child's scooter in darkness wearing dark clothing on a busy road with fast moving traffic is a very very silly choice to make.
That may well be the case - but he had earlier received a phone call to say his baby was rushed to hospital and I guess he just wanted to get there by any means - besides, it still does not excuse the driver's behaviour in any shape or form!
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Yeah he should have stopped etc but riding a child's scooter in darkness wearing dark clothing on a busy road with fast moving traffic is a very very silly choice to make.[/p][/quote]That may well be the case - but he had earlier received a phone call to say his baby was rushed to hospital and I guess he just wanted to get there by any means - besides, it still does not excuse the driver's behaviour in any shape or form! we-shall-see
  • Score: -39

6:55pm Fri 27 Jun 14

spooki says...

we-shall-see wrote:
Huey wrote:
Yeah he should have stopped etc but riding a child's scooter in darkness wearing dark clothing on a busy road with fast moving traffic is a very very silly choice to make.
That may well be the case - but he had earlier received a phone call to say his baby was rushed to hospital and I guess he just wanted to get there by any means - besides, it still does not excuse the driver's behaviour in any shape or form!
No he didn't. Baby was due to be in hospital the Monday so he had the whole weekend to get home.
Mr Robbie made a stupid decision for a good reason BUT for the driver to think "something" smashed his windscreen and knocked off the wing mirror, it must have been a pretty big badger. Idiot. He knew full well what he'd done and chose to pretend it never happened, robbing families and friends of a dad, son, brother and mate.
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Yeah he should have stopped etc but riding a child's scooter in darkness wearing dark clothing on a busy road with fast moving traffic is a very very silly choice to make.[/p][/quote]That may well be the case - but he had earlier received a phone call to say his baby was rushed to hospital and I guess he just wanted to get there by any means - besides, it still does not excuse the driver's behaviour in any shape or form![/p][/quote]No he didn't. Baby was due to be in hospital the Monday so he had the whole weekend to get home. Mr Robbie made a stupid decision for a good reason BUT for the driver to think "something" smashed his windscreen and knocked off the wing mirror, it must have been a pretty big badger. Idiot. He knew full well what he'd done and chose to pretend it never happened, robbing families and friends of a dad, son, brother and mate. spooki
  • Score: 24

6:59pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Mejulie1967 says...

If he had stopped and not concocted his lies, not only would he not be in trouble (because of the circumstances around the incident) but the young man may still be alive if he received urgent medical attention. So in effect, his actions have killed him.
If he had stopped and not concocted his lies, not only would he not be in trouble (because of the circumstances around the incident) but the young man may still be alive if he received urgent medical attention. So in effect, his actions have killed him. Mejulie1967
  • Score: 34

7:29pm Fri 27 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Did the van hit him .or did he hit the van .was there blood samples taken from both men .What would lead to the father of 3 to make such a reckless decision to ride a child's bike in black 13 miles in the dark you have to ask what we're his friends thinking of to let him embark on the journey and.surely bare some responsibility .I ask the driver of the van what his mission was .that's easy ,on his way to work probably tired .And then distressed and guilty of bad judgment . Hope his sentence reflects this .
Did the van hit him .or did he hit the van .was there blood samples taken from both men .What would lead to the father of 3 to make such a reckless decision to ride a child's bike in black 13 miles in the dark you have to ask what we're his friends thinking of to let him embark on the journey and.surely bare some responsibility .I ask the driver of the van what his mission was .that's easy ,on his way to work probably tired .And then distressed and guilty of bad judgment . Hope his sentence reflects this . kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 40

7:30pm Fri 27 Jun 14

your having a laugh111 says...

I think these 2 young men have both made a silly mistake. Unfortunately one paid with his life and the other one has still to find out his sentence.

So very sad for both as I'm sure this young man is going to regret that day for the rest of his life.

I think we should think before we post on here when the story is do sensitive.

Please remember this young man obviously did not go out to hurt anyone, it's his actions after an accident that will probably cost him.
I think these 2 young men have both made a silly mistake. Unfortunately one paid with his life and the other one has still to find out his sentence. So very sad for both as I'm sure this young man is going to regret that day for the rest of his life. I think we should think before we post on here when the story is do sensitive. Please remember this young man obviously did not go out to hurt anyone, it's his actions after an accident that will probably cost him. your having a laugh111
  • Score: 65

8:05pm Fri 27 Jun 14

tilly123 says...

Why would you fail to stop or report an accident? Under the influence?something to hide? or just covering your own back !
Maybe the poor man run down could of been saved, but his family will never know thanks to the actions of the selfish driver.
Why would you fail to stop or report an accident? Under the influence?something to hide? or just covering your own back ! Maybe the poor man run down could of been saved, but his family will never know thanks to the actions of the selfish driver. tilly123
  • Score: 2

8:16pm Fri 27 Jun 14

tilly123 says...

why would anyone fail to stop or report an accident? Under the influence from the night before? Hiding something? or trying to save his own skin!
Maybe the poor man could have been saved, but his family will never know, thanks to that selfish driver.
As for the driver having to live with what he has done, to be sorry, you have to admit what you have done(by pleading not guilty he did not do) and show remorse which he did not do.
My thoughts are with the young mans family.
why would anyone fail to stop or report an accident? Under the influence from the night before? Hiding something? or trying to save his own skin! Maybe the poor man could have been saved, but his family will never know, thanks to that selfish driver. As for the driver having to live with what he has done, to be sorry, you have to admit what you have done(by pleading not guilty he did not do) and show remorse which he did not do. My thoughts are with the young mans family. tilly123
  • Score: 9

8:28pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Miss mouse says...

Do any of these nasty comments reflect this was a man who was desperate to get home to his ill child and his family. No.

Please please think of this mans poor family who have to live each and every day without him! No sentence will every be enough, because maybe just maybe if the driver had got out and checked what he'd hit, there would of been a chance of a life being saved. His children have to live their lives with only memories of their dad. All because someone didn't check what he hit.
Do any of these nasty comments reflect this was a man who was desperate to get home to his ill child and his family. No. Please please think of this mans poor family who have to live each and every day without him! No sentence will every be enough, because maybe just maybe if the driver had got out and checked what he'd hit, there would of been a chance of a life being saved. His children have to live their lives with only memories of their dad. All because someone didn't check what he hit. Miss mouse
  • Score: -20

8:53pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Modena says...

your having a laugh111 wrote:
I think these 2 young men have both made a silly mistake. Unfortunately one paid with his life and the other one has still to find out his sentence.

So very sad for both as I'm sure this young man is going to regret that day for the rest of his life.

I think we should think before we post on here when the story is do sensitive.

Please remember this young man obviously did not go out to hurt anyone, it's his actions after an accident that will probably cost him.
Spot on right there! Driver will have to live with this accident for the rest of his life and that's more than any other punishment he will later receive. Both young men are the victims here.
[quote][p][bold]your having a laugh111[/bold] wrote: I think these 2 young men have both made a silly mistake. Unfortunately one paid with his life and the other one has still to find out his sentence. So very sad for both as I'm sure this young man is going to regret that day for the rest of his life. I think we should think before we post on here when the story is do sensitive. Please remember this young man obviously did not go out to hurt anyone, it's his actions after an accident that will probably cost him.[/p][/quote]Spot on right there! Driver will have to live with this accident for the rest of his life and that's more than any other punishment he will later receive. Both young men are the victims here. Modena
  • Score: 29

9:14pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Huey says...

Hopefully lessons will be learned and nothing like this will happen again
Hopefully lessons will be learned and nothing like this will happen again Huey
  • Score: 4

9:15pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Am I right in thinking that if the sentence is passed by a magistrates court the maximum sentence they can give is 6 months jail ?

Am I ? Someone please correct me if wrong.


Anyway, my guess will be no jail, hefty fine, some unpaid community work, 120 hours or so, courts costs of £ 385, victim surcharge of £15.
Am I right in thinking that if the sentence is passed by a magistrates court the maximum sentence they can give is 6 months jail ? Am I ? Someone please correct me if wrong. Anyway, my guess will be no jail, hefty fine, some unpaid community work, 120 hours or so, courts costs of £ 385, victim surcharge of £15. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 8

10:04pm Fri 27 Jun 14

60plus says...

There was no mention of the scooter having lights and he was wearing black clothes,mistakes by both of them,
There was no mention of the scooter having lights and he was wearing black clothes,mistakes by both of them, 60plus
  • Score: 20

12:42am Sat 28 Jun 14

Ragwin says...

Huey wrote:
Hopefully lessons will be learned and nothing like this will happen again
Of course they won't and it will happen again.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Hopefully lessons will be learned and nothing like this will happen again[/p][/quote]Of course they won't and it will happen again. Ragwin
  • Score: 1

1:08am Sat 28 Jun 14

anonEmouse says...

Its a terrible unfortunate accident, but the bottom line is, if the man who died had not been riding an illegal vehicle on the highway none of this disaster would have happened. Sure its sad but people trying to justify what he did is as bad as the guy in the car fleeing the scene. Actions cause reactions and have consequences. Its a terrible accident, its an awful shame that it seems nowadays there is no such thing as an accident, because of this blame culture. If the driver goes to jail it wont bring him back. He has the rest of his life to live with the fact that there was a death in an accident he was involved in.
Its a terrible unfortunate accident, but the bottom line is, if the man who died had not been riding an illegal vehicle on the highway none of this disaster would have happened. Sure its sad but people trying to justify what he did is as bad as the guy in the car fleeing the scene. Actions cause reactions and have consequences. Its a terrible accident, its an awful shame that it seems nowadays there is no such thing as an accident, because of this blame culture. If the driver goes to jail it wont bring him back. He has the rest of his life to live with the fact that there was a death in an accident he was involved in. anonEmouse
  • Score: 37

5:35am Sat 28 Jun 14

Ginny nz says...

This is a hash comment , but needs to be said . Why was this young man , a father , doing something so stupid . If the driver was aware that he had hit him - yes , he should have stopped and he shouldn't have made up a story but , if Daniel hadn't been so stupid it would never have happened . Hopefully things have been learnt from this tragic story !!
This is a hash comment , but needs to be said . Why was this young man , a father , doing something so stupid . If the driver was aware that he had hit him - yes , he should have stopped and he shouldn't have made up a story but , if Daniel hadn't been so stupid it would never have happened . Hopefully things have been learnt from this tragic story !! Ginny nz
  • Score: 27

7:09am Sat 28 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Have some sympathy for the widow who is not mentioned in the article ?
Have some sympathy for the widow who is not mentioned in the article ? kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -9

10:11am Sat 28 Jun 14

Bryan72 says...

THE DRIVER KNOWS WHAT HE HAS DONE, LIED ,SHOULD OFF STOP, END OFF .... LIED
THE DRIVER KNOWS WHAT HE HAS DONE, LIED ,SHOULD OFF STOP, END OFF .... LIED Bryan72
  • Score: -15

10:44am Sat 28 Jun 14

LornaBournemouth says...

we-shall-see wrote:
Huey wrote:
Yeah he should have stopped etc but riding a child's scooter in darkness wearing dark clothing on a busy road with fast moving traffic is a very very silly choice to make.
That may well be the case - but he had earlier received a phone call to say his baby was rushed to hospital and I guess he just wanted to get there by any means - besides, it still does not excuse the driver's behaviour in any shape or form!
Most people would call a taxi!
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Yeah he should have stopped etc but riding a child's scooter in darkness wearing dark clothing on a busy road with fast moving traffic is a very very silly choice to make.[/p][/quote]That may well be the case - but he had earlier received a phone call to say his baby was rushed to hospital and I guess he just wanted to get there by any means - besides, it still does not excuse the driver's behaviour in any shape or form![/p][/quote]Most people would call a taxi! LornaBournemouth
  • Score: 17

11:36am Sat 28 Jun 14

MotorbikeSam says...

Ginny nz wrote:
This is a hash comment , but needs to be said . Why was this young man , a father , doing something so stupid . If the driver was aware that he had hit him - yes , he should have stopped and he shouldn't have made up a story but , if Daniel hadn't been so stupid it would never have happened . Hopefully things have been learnt from this tragic story !!
the main thing here is to drive a motor vehicle you need a licence that says you are a safe and qualified person who has shown he/she can control a vehicle in all road conditions and as such you should look where you are going and to see if the road is clear and safe and if you cant see then you need to slow down, there is no excuse to hit anything in the road unless it runs into the road in front of you.. it would seem the dead man was riding along the road but he could have been walking or just standing in the road, whichever it is no excuse to run him over, it happens far to often drivers seem to think they had a god given right to travel the road at any speed they like with no though for others on the road . This van driver should have slowed down if he could not see the road ahead.
[quote][p][bold]Ginny nz[/bold] wrote: This is a hash comment , but needs to be said . Why was this young man , a father , doing something so stupid . If the driver was aware that he had hit him - yes , he should have stopped and he shouldn't have made up a story but , if Daniel hadn't been so stupid it would never have happened . Hopefully things have been learnt from this tragic story !![/p][/quote]the main thing here is to drive a motor vehicle you need a licence that says you are a safe and qualified person who has shown he/she can control a vehicle in all road conditions and as such you should look where you are going and to see if the road is clear and safe and if you cant see then you need to slow down, there is no excuse to hit anything in the road unless it runs into the road in front of you.. it would seem the dead man was riding along the road but he could have been walking or just standing in the road, whichever it is no excuse to run him over, it happens far to often drivers seem to think they had a god given right to travel the road at any speed they like with no though for others on the road . This van driver should have slowed down if he could not see the road ahead. MotorbikeSam
  • Score: -2

12:46pm Sat 28 Jun 14

honestopinion84 says...

i never knew dan but my partner did, the lad who done this is a coward, if i hit someone on the dual carridgeway i would be in peices but would at least do everything possible to at least stop and check. ive made effort to save a CAT on that same stretch ffs.
Dans life could have been saved or the effort could have been made but due to the act of a coward he had to be found laying in an udergrowth for however long injured, i hope his sentences reflect this.
he will end up with 3,

firstly he will have to live with what he has done

then probably a custodial for his lies

then unless he goes to scotland probably some sort of vigilante justice as dan from what i know was a very much loved and respected lad, and what he done wasnt the most sensible thing, but the reasoning behind it shows his character, would have took any risk for his family.

i hope his family can find some sort of peace and may he rest in peace
i never knew dan but my partner did, the lad who done this is a coward, if i hit someone on the dual carridgeway i would be in peices but would at least do everything possible to at least stop and check. ive made effort to save a CAT on that same stretch ffs. Dans life could have been saved or the effort could have been made but due to the act of a coward he had to be found laying in an udergrowth for however long injured, i hope his sentences reflect this. he will end up with 3, firstly he will have to live with what he has done then probably a custodial for his lies then unless he goes to scotland probably some sort of vigilante justice as dan from what i know was a very much loved and respected lad, and what he done wasnt the most sensible thing, but the reasoning behind it shows his character, would have took any risk for his family. i hope his family can find some sort of peace and may he rest in peace honestopinion84
  • Score: -14

12:48pm Sat 28 Jun 14

honestopinion84 says...

i also hope his licence has been removed prior to sentencing
i also hope his licence has been removed prior to sentencing honestopinion84
  • Score: -9

4:02pm Sat 28 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

I have just googled micro scooter . If it is was what it shows.it does give some substance to Mr James account that he thought he had hit a badger .It's hard to imagine some one would scoot one 13 miles on any sort of road much less an unlight duel carriage way . to get home and if it was a child's motorcycle I assume it would have had lights.c a n some one at the Echo confirm what it was exactly .
I have just googled micro scooter . If it is was what it shows.it does give some substance to Mr James account that he thought he had hit a badger .It's hard to imagine some one would scoot one 13 miles on any sort of road much less an unlight duel carriage way . to get home and if it was a child's motorcycle I assume it would have had lights.c a n some one at the Echo confirm what it was exactly . kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 8

6:08pm Sat 28 Jun 14

hadvar says...

A lot of sense talked here for once. There seems to be a general acceptance that riding a scooter on a dual carriageway was beyond stupid. Ultimately, that was the cause of his accident. A pity for all involved.
A lot of sense talked here for once. There seems to be a general acceptance that riding a scooter on a dual carriageway was beyond stupid. Ultimately, that was the cause of his accident. A pity for all involved. hadvar
  • Score: 10

8:32pm Sat 28 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Miss mouse wrote:
Do any of these nasty comments reflect this was a man who was desperate to get home to his ill child and his family. No.

Please please think of this mans poor family who have to live each and every day without him! No sentence will every be enough, because maybe just maybe if the driver had got out and checked what he'd hit, there would of been a chance of a life being saved. His children have to live their lives with only memories of their dad. All because someone didn't check what he hit.
The driver did go back and found nothing .Not that a tiny scooter with no lights or reflective material And body dressed in black would be easy to find in darkness .it took the emergency services And family members 32 hours to find him meaning it was broad day light when the body and micro scooter we're spotted . goodness knows how many hundreds of vehicles passed the accident scene in daylight without noticing anything resembling a fatal accident .
[quote][p][bold]Miss mouse[/bold] wrote: Do any of these nasty comments reflect this was a man who was desperate to get home to his ill child and his family. No. Please please think of this mans poor family who have to live each and every day without him! No sentence will every be enough, because maybe just maybe if the driver had got out and checked what he'd hit, there would of been a chance of a life being saved. His children have to live their lives with only memories of their dad. All because someone didn't check what he hit.[/p][/quote]The driver did go back and found nothing .Not that a tiny scooter with no lights or reflective material And body dressed in black would be easy to find in darkness .it took the emergency services And family members 32 hours to find him meaning it was broad day light when the body and micro scooter we're spotted . goodness knows how many hundreds of vehicles passed the accident scene in daylight without noticing anything resembling a fatal accident . kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 9

9:35pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Suedehead says...

The negative reaction to any comments showing sympathy for the victim here is deeply depressing. He thought he needed to get to hospital quickly so it is perfectly understandable that he might not have thought rationally. Of course it would have been better if he had taken a taxi but it is perfectly possible he did not have the cash to pay for one.

I just hope the poor man's partner never reads this page and gets to see what a mean-sprites lot so many people are.
The negative reaction to any comments showing sympathy for the victim here is deeply depressing. He thought he needed to get to hospital quickly so it is perfectly understandable that he might not have thought rationally. Of course it would have been better if he had taken a taxi but it is perfectly possible he did not have the cash to pay for one. I just hope the poor man's partner never reads this page and gets to see what a mean-sprites lot so many people are. Suedehead
  • Score: -1

12:41am Sun 29 Jun 14

Suedehead says...

Suedehead wrote:
The negative reaction to any comments showing sympathy for the victim here is deeply depressing. He thought he needed to get to hospital quickly so it is perfectly understandable that he might not have thought rationally. Of course it would have been better if he had taken a taxi but it is perfectly possible he did not have the cash to pay for one.

I just hope the poor man's partner never reads this page and gets to see what a mean-sprites lot so many people are.
Not sure what happened there but I meant to say mean spirited
[quote][p][bold]Suedehead[/bold] wrote: The negative reaction to any comments showing sympathy for the victim here is deeply depressing. He thought he needed to get to hospital quickly so it is perfectly understandable that he might not have thought rationally. Of course it would have been better if he had taken a taxi but it is perfectly possible he did not have the cash to pay for one. I just hope the poor man's partner never reads this page and gets to see what a mean-sprites lot so many people are.[/p][/quote]Not sure what happened there but I meant to say mean spirited Suedehead
  • Score: 2

12:24pm Sun 29 Jun 14

baylin says...

I have no sympathy for someone who rides a child's scooter in the dark along a public highway. He had been out drinking with his pals its a pity ha didn't save the taxi fare to see his child, this man was an idiot. where did he get the scooter from.
I have no sympathy for someone who rides a child's scooter in the dark along a public highway. He had been out drinking with his pals its a pity ha didn't save the taxi fare to see his child, this man was an idiot. where did he get the scooter from. baylin
  • Score: 2

12:40pm Sun 29 Jun 14

stevobath says...

LornaBournemouth wrote:
we-shall-see wrote:
Huey wrote:
Yeah he should have stopped etc but riding a child's scooter in darkness wearing dark clothing on a busy road with fast moving traffic is a very very silly choice to make.
That may well be the case - but he had earlier received a phone call to say his baby was rushed to hospital and I guess he just wanted to get there by any means - besides, it still does not excuse the driver's behaviour in any shape or form!
Most people would call a taxi!
Not everyone has money to pay for a long taxi journey.

Yes the guy was silly to be scooting along the bypass dressed in black but the driver was dumb too. Why would you not stop if you know you've hit something, then go on & blatantly lie about it?

I find it suspicious why he didn't stop & check.
[quote][p][bold]LornaBournemouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Yeah he should have stopped etc but riding a child's scooter in darkness wearing dark clothing on a busy road with fast moving traffic is a very very silly choice to make.[/p][/quote]That may well be the case - but he had earlier received a phone call to say his baby was rushed to hospital and I guess he just wanted to get there by any means - besides, it still does not excuse the driver's behaviour in any shape or form![/p][/quote]Most people would call a taxi![/p][/quote]Not everyone has money to pay for a long taxi journey. Yes the guy was silly to be scooting along the bypass dressed in black but the driver was dumb too. Why would you not stop if you know you've hit something, then go on & blatantly lie about it? I find it suspicious why he didn't stop & check. stevobath
  • Score: -5

9:50pm Sun 29 Jun 14

carrrob says...

honestopinion84 wrote:
i never knew dan but my partner did, the lad who done this is a coward, if i hit someone on the dual carridgeway i would be in peices but would at least do everything possible to at least stop and check. ive made effort to save a CAT on that same stretch ffs.
Dans life could have been saved or the effort could have been made but due to the act of a coward he had to be found laying in an udergrowth for however long injured, i hope his sentences reflect this.
he will end up with 3,

firstly he will have to live with what he has done

then probably a custodial for his lies

then unless he goes to scotland probably some sort of vigilante justice as dan from what i know was a very much loved and respected lad, and what he done wasnt the most sensible thing, but the reasoning behind it shows his character, would have took any risk for his family.

i hope his family can find some sort of peace and may he rest in peace
Vigilante justice grow up
It was an accident .
[quote][p][bold]honestopinion84[/bold] wrote: i never knew dan but my partner did, the lad who done this is a coward, if i hit someone on the dual carridgeway i would be in peices but would at least do everything possible to at least stop and check. ive made effort to save a CAT on that same stretch ffs. Dans life could have been saved or the effort could have been made but due to the act of a coward he had to be found laying in an udergrowth for however long injured, i hope his sentences reflect this. he will end up with 3, firstly he will have to live with what he has done then probably a custodial for his lies then unless he goes to scotland probably some sort of vigilante justice as dan from what i know was a very much loved and respected lad, and what he done wasnt the most sensible thing, but the reasoning behind it shows his character, would have took any risk for his family. i hope his family can find some sort of peace and may he rest in peace[/p][/quote]Vigilante justice grow up It was an accident . carrrob
  • Score: 5

3:32pm Mon 30 Jun 14

suzigirl says...

Unfortunately I still see the idiot (disqualified driver) who drove off and left my son dying on the road after my son(on a mountain bike) was involved in a collision with his van. He was caught because somebody took down his mobile phone number which was on the side of his van! He only got jailed because he was caught again driving the van whilst disqualifed before the last Hearing. Luckily I believe in karma............... hopefully sooner rather than later......
Unfortunately I still see the idiot (disqualified driver) who drove off and left my son dying on the road after my son(on a mountain bike) was involved in a collision with his van. He was caught because somebody took down his mobile phone number which was on the side of his van! He only got jailed because he was caught again driving the van whilst disqualifed before the last Hearing. Luckily I believe in karma............... hopefully sooner rather than later...... suzigirl
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7:27am Tue 1 Jul 14

Miss mouse says...

I do believe, 10 mph on a motorway, with lights on would of been enough to see a tall lad, on a mountain bike, or even a scooter!!! The driver is clearly hiding more, and a death by dangerous driving sentence is what is needed to reflect this!

If anyone else feels the need to be disrespectful towards dan, as he is not here to defend himself, you are clearly not at all decent humans!

Now all comments by people who 1) never knew dan- so don't know the kind of desperation he would go through to be with his family
2) those family members or friends of the driver trying to 'clear his name'
3) those of you who see bad news, and feel your opinion is vital to help the poor and loving family dan has left behind. - please refrain from assuming you know what has happened. And spare a thought for those family and friends of dan's and think will this help them grieve! No!!!
I do believe, 10 mph on a motorway, with lights on would of been enough to see a tall lad, on a mountain bike, or even a scooter!!! The driver is clearly hiding more, and a death by dangerous driving sentence is what is needed to reflect this! If anyone else feels the need to be disrespectful towards dan, as he is not here to defend himself, you are clearly not at all decent humans! Now all comments by people who 1) never knew dan- so don't know the kind of desperation he would go through to be with his family 2) those family members or friends of the driver trying to 'clear his name' 3) those of you who see bad news, and feel your opinion is vital to help the poor and loving family dan has left behind. - please refrain from assuming you know what has happened. And spare a thought for those family and friends of dan's and think will this help them grieve! No!!! Miss mouse
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1:47pm Tue 1 Jul 14

stonegardens says...

It's not against the law to walk, ride bike, Scotter along is stretch of road so Dan was not breaking any law's . Even the driver said when he got to work and saw the damage knew it could not of been a badger but he made the choice to go with his lie which according to him he does this all the time lying to his parents and girlfriend . even after Dan was found and asked by his dad ans girlfriend if he hit Dan and asked by the police he still went with his lie. Not once has he or any member of his family made any show of remorse to Dan's mother, father, brothers, sisters or his three young children and their mother.All this person cares about is themselves , getting his new car and not going to jail.
Just remember when writing your comments some one has lost there life.
x
It's not against the law to walk, ride bike, Scotter along is stretch of road so Dan was not breaking any law's . Even the driver said when he got to work and saw the damage knew it could not of been a badger but he made the choice to go with his lie which according to him he does this all the time lying to his parents and girlfriend . even after Dan was found and asked by his dad ans girlfriend if he hit Dan and asked by the police he still went with his lie. Not once has he or any member of his family made any show of remorse to Dan's mother, father, brothers, sisters or his three young children and their mother.All this person cares about is themselves , getting his new car and not going to jail. Just remember when writing your comments some one has lost there life. x stonegardens
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12:43am Sun 6 Jul 14

Skyrah says...

It is always sad and emotional when a young life is cut short, even more so when it was clearly avoidable. However, if you've ever seen someone hunched over on one of these little scooters - essentially a small footplate on tiny wheels with handle bars on a short stick - in daylight, you'd know how difficult they are to spot. Now imagine the same thing, in the dark, no lights or reflective material on a dual carriageway!

If this had been an avoidable or foreseeable accident, the driver would have been charged with causing death by dangerous driving. He was not.

If the chap hit by the motorist had been in anyway likely to have survived the impact, (which he did not, as his injury was severe enough to have killed him instantly) the driver would have been charged with failing to stop and causing death due to his actions.

When anybody dies too young, people try and make sense of it, they look for blame, and they often want to see someone 'pay'.

Matt James is an idiot who lied and should have pleaded guilty to the charge of failing to stop and report. Whether that was arrogance or fear only he knows for sure. As soon as he saw the damage to his vehicle, he set off back to the scene and saw nothing. There was nothing to see as there was no sign of an injured person or animal.

And yet you get deluded planks like honestopinion84 threatening retribution for what was an accident followed by a stupid mistake!

Matt may well be an unlikable prat, and Daniel will always be looked back at through rose tinted glasses, but anonEmouse has summarised precisely what happened here "an accident".
It is always sad and emotional when a young life is cut short, even more so when it was clearly avoidable. However, if you've ever seen someone hunched over on one of these little scooters - essentially a small footplate on tiny wheels with handle bars on a short stick - in daylight, you'd know how difficult they are to spot. Now imagine the same thing, in the dark, no lights or reflective material on a dual carriageway! If this had been an avoidable or foreseeable accident, the driver would have been charged with causing death by dangerous driving. He was not. If the chap hit by the motorist had been in anyway likely to have survived the impact, (which he did not, as his injury was severe enough to have killed him instantly) the driver would have been charged with failing to stop and causing death due to his actions. When anybody dies too young, people try and make sense of it, they look for blame, and they often want to see someone 'pay'. Matt James is an idiot who lied and should have pleaded guilty to the charge of failing to stop and report. Whether that was arrogance or fear only he knows for sure. As soon as he saw the damage to his vehicle, he set off back to the scene and saw nothing. There was nothing to see as there was no sign of an injured person or animal. And yet you get deluded planks like honestopinion84 threatening retribution for what was an accident followed by a stupid mistake! Matt may well be an unlikable prat, and Daniel will always be looked back at through rose tinted glasses, but anonEmouse has summarised precisely what happened here "an accident". Skyrah
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