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Concerns over disabled access in Poole after new community sharing toilet scheme introduced

Bournemouth Echo: PROBLEMS: Radar Key users are dismayed at the closure of public toilets in Jubilee Road, near to Ashley Road in Poole PROBLEMS: Radar Key users are dismayed at the closure of public toilets in Jubilee Road, near to Ashley Road in Poole

A POOLE woman says that disabled people are suffering after Borough of Poole closed the public toilets in Jubilee Road.

Daphne Long says that Ashley Road in Parkstone is not wheelchair user-friendly after the toilets in Jubilee Road closed earlier this year and were replaced with a community shared toilet scheme.

She says that friends who tried to test out the facilities in some of the shops ‘failed at the first hurdle’, because there was no wheelchair access, with one exception at Waitrose, which is not open 24 hours a day.

Daphne, a former Poole councillor, said: “I left my chair outside the Jubilee Road toilets one day while I used them and when I came out, a man from the council said: ‘It’s lucky you left that outside because if you hadn’t, I would’ve locked you in forever’.”

She added: “I asked him where we were supposed to go in future and he said to use the shops and cafes as part of the community scheme.”

Daphne said neither she nor any of her disabled friends had been consulted on how the closure might affect them. She said: “I’ve been in touch with environmental consumer protection services and an environmental officer said that there are toilets in the area which use the Radar key facility, but I would need to drive to Sandbanks to use them.

“I am appalled that the only toilet we can use is at Waitrose.

“The council is paying for the shops to open their toilets to the public and yet we can’t use them.”

Cllr Xena Dion, cabinet member for a prosperous and sustainable Poole at Borough of Poole, said: “The decision to close the public conveniences at Jubilee Road was taken following consultation with the local business organisations and local ward councillors.

“Any decision like this is evaluated on the impact it has on various groups of people and we believe the facilities offered by Waitrose, Rosina’s Café and the Victoria Cross, which the council now helps fund, are an improvement on the facilities previously provided by the council.”

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6:46am Tue 24 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.
So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt. kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 4

7:53am Tue 24 Jun 14

BIGTONE says...

Wheelchair night riders.
Wheelchair night riders. BIGTONE
  • Score: -5

8:02am Tue 24 Jun 14

Victor_Meldrew_Lives! says...

But the toilets wouldn't have been open 24 hours anyway?
But the toilets wouldn't have been open 24 hours anyway? Victor_Meldrew_Lives!
  • Score: 16

8:04am Tue 24 Jun 14

13mediawarfare says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.
I think your comment is disgusting. Just because a person is in a wheelchair, are we now to say that they have a 5:30pm curfew as the public toilets they can access are all located in places that close at this time? They do not choose to be disabled and by removing these toilets, or not making others available to them I believe is a step backwards in a 'community' scheme. It's more of a 'community for the able-bodied'. I whole heartedly agree with Daphne Long. (Before I am criticised, no I am not disabled and now are any of my close friends/relatives).
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.[/p][/quote]I think your comment is disgusting. Just because a person is in a wheelchair, are we now to say that they have a 5:30pm curfew as the public toilets they can access are all located in places that close at this time? They do not choose to be disabled and by removing these toilets, or not making others available to them I believe is a step backwards in a 'community' scheme. It's more of a 'community for the able-bodied'. I whole heartedly agree with Daphne Long. (Before I am criticised, no I am not disabled and now are any of my close friends/relatives). 13mediawarfare
  • Score: 6

8:18am Tue 24 Jun 14

pete woodley says...

I am disabled,with prostate and bladder cancer,and often HAVE to use public toilets and often go to jubillee rd car park,i also suffer from HEART problems,with two blocked valves and stents in other two.DOES NOBODY CARE. B******S.
I am disabled,with prostate and bladder cancer,and often HAVE to use public toilets and often go to jubillee rd car park,i also suffer from HEART problems,with two blocked valves and stents in other two.DOES NOBODY CARE. B******S. pete woodley
  • Score: 0

8:48am Tue 24 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

pete woodley wrote:
I am disabled,with prostate and bladder cancer,and often HAVE to use public toilets and often go to jubillee rd car park,i also suffer from HEART problems,with two blocked valves and stents in other two.DOES NOBODY CARE. B******S.
The public toilets still exist they just located in private premises payedfor by the council.I doubt the jubilee rd one was open 24 hours a day It attracts all sorts of undesirables .
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: I am disabled,with prostate and bladder cancer,and often HAVE to use public toilets and often go to jubillee rd car park,i also suffer from HEART problems,with two blocked valves and stents in other two.DOES NOBODY CARE. B******S.[/p][/quote]The public toilets still exist they just located in private premises payedfor by the council.I doubt the jubilee rd one was open 24 hours a day It attracts all sorts of undesirables . kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 3

12:09pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

Obviously they had to close the toilets in Jubilee Road, how else would the council be able to make their £2 million profit.

These public toilets should not have been closed and this is simply an unnecessary penny pinching exercise by the council at a time when there is certainly no need for this kind of cost cutting anyway.
Obviously they had to close the toilets in Jubilee Road, how else would the council be able to make their £2 million profit. These public toilets should not have been closed and this is simply an unnecessary penny pinching exercise by the council at a time when there is certainly no need for this kind of cost cutting anyway. Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: 3

12:20pm Tue 24 Jun 14

stevobath says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.
So only able bodied people can go out at night?

Hope you don't end up disabled.

Difficult to go behind a bush if you're in a wheelchair...
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.[/p][/quote]So only able bodied people can go out at night? Hope you don't end up disabled. Difficult to go behind a bush if you're in a wheelchair... stevobath
  • Score: 4

12:57pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Dibbles2 says...

13mediawarfare wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.
I think your comment is disgusting. Just because a person is in a wheelchair, are we now to say that they have a 5:30pm curfew as the public toilets they can access are all located in places that close at this time? They do not choose to be disabled and by removing these toilets, or not making others available to them I believe is a step backwards in a 'community' scheme. It's more of a 'community for the able-bodied'. I whole heartedly agree with Daphne Long. (Before I am criticised, no I am not disabled and now are any of my close friends/relatives).
Surely your issue should be with the places that do have wheelchair accessibility like the pubs and restaurants? The public toilets were never open at night anyway.

The Waitrose toilets are open until 8pm. I'm sure there are pubs that have disabled access which due to there size they have to have by law.

A reasonable adjustment is a change you need to make to your business in order to meet the duties of the DDA.

What is reasonable?

You should consider the following when deciding what sort of change is likely to be reasonable for your company:

Type of business.
Size of the business and annual turnover.
Cost of the adjustment.
Disruption to the business while the work is being carried out.
Practicality of carrying out the adjustment.
Potential benefits to disabled customers and employees.

I for one wouldn't use public toilets at night due to what goes on in them and Jubilee Road toilets had a nice reputation for men behaving badly a few years ago and I'm not talking drugs. I recall an incident where photos were circulated of the gross acts in there so think personal safety should be foremost.
[quote][p][bold]13mediawarfare[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.[/p][/quote]I think your comment is disgusting. Just because a person is in a wheelchair, are we now to say that they have a 5:30pm curfew as the public toilets they can access are all located in places that close at this time? They do not choose to be disabled and by removing these toilets, or not making others available to them I believe is a step backwards in a 'community' scheme. It's more of a 'community for the able-bodied'. I whole heartedly agree with Daphne Long. (Before I am criticised, no I am not disabled and now are any of my close friends/relatives).[/p][/quote]Surely your issue should be with the places that do have wheelchair accessibility like the pubs and restaurants? The public toilets were never open at night anyway. The Waitrose toilets are open until 8pm. I'm sure there are pubs that have disabled access which due to there size they have to have by law. A reasonable adjustment is a change you need to make to your business in order to meet the duties of the DDA. What is reasonable? You should consider the following when deciding what sort of change is likely to be reasonable for your company: Type of business. Size of the business and annual turnover. Cost of the adjustment. Disruption to the business while the work is being carried out. Practicality of carrying out the adjustment. Potential benefits to disabled customers and employees. I for one wouldn't use public toilets at night due to what goes on in them and Jubilee Road toilets had a nice reputation for men behaving badly a few years ago and I'm not talking drugs. I recall an incident where photos were circulated of the gross acts in there so think personal safety should be foremost. Dibbles2
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12:58pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Dibbles2 says...

13mediawarfare wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.
I think your comment is disgusting. Just because a person is in a wheelchair, are we now to say that they have a 5:30pm curfew as the public toilets they can access are all located in places that close at this time? They do not choose to be disabled and by removing these toilets, or not making others available to them I believe is a step backwards in a 'community' scheme. It's more of a 'community for the able-bodied'. I whole heartedly agree with Daphne Long. (Before I am criticised, no I am not disabled and now are any of my close friends/relatives).
Doesnt Waitrose close at 8pm?
[quote][p][bold]13mediawarfare[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.[/p][/quote]I think your comment is disgusting. Just because a person is in a wheelchair, are we now to say that they have a 5:30pm curfew as the public toilets they can access are all located in places that close at this time? They do not choose to be disabled and by removing these toilets, or not making others available to them I believe is a step backwards in a 'community' scheme. It's more of a 'community for the able-bodied'. I whole heartedly agree with Daphne Long. (Before I am criticised, no I am not disabled and now are any of my close friends/relatives).[/p][/quote]Doesnt Waitrose close at 8pm? Dibbles2
  • Score: 7

1:09pm Tue 24 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

13mediawarfare wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.
I think your comment is disgusting. Just because a person is in a wheelchair, are we now to say that they have a 5:30pm curfew as the public toilets they can access are all located in places that close at this time? They do not choose to be disabled and by removing these toilets, or not making others available to them I believe is a step backwards in a 'community' scheme. It's more of a 'community for the able-bodied'. I whole heartedly agree with Daphne Long. (Before I am criticised, no I am not disabled and now are any of my close friends/relatives).
Enlighten me what time did the toilets in jubilee rd close ,sure the pub doesn't close at 5'30 bet the the toilets that are now located in far more .pleasant surroundings No traffic to avoid in a car park got to be cleaner and unlikely to get accosted by a mugger or drug addict well done the council now knock down the toilet and make some parking places it may go someway to restoring the high street for all
[quote][p][bold]13mediawarfare[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.[/p][/quote]I think your comment is disgusting. Just because a person is in a wheelchair, are we now to say that they have a 5:30pm curfew as the public toilets they can access are all located in places that close at this time? They do not choose to be disabled and by removing these toilets, or not making others available to them I believe is a step backwards in a 'community' scheme. It's more of a 'community for the able-bodied'. I whole heartedly agree with Daphne Long. (Before I am criticised, no I am not disabled and now are any of my close friends/relatives).[/p][/quote]Enlighten me what time did the toilets in jubilee rd close ,sure the pub doesn't close at 5'30 bet the the toilets that are now located in far more .pleasant surroundings No traffic to avoid in a car park got to be cleaner and unlikely to get accosted by a mugger or drug addict well done the council now knock down the toilet and make some parking places it may go someway to restoring the high street for all kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 5

1:14pm Tue 24 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

stevobath wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.
So only able bodied people can go out at night?

Hope you don't end up disabled.

Difficult to go behind a bush if you're in a wheelchair...
Thank you for the well being coment
[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.[/p][/quote]So only able bodied people can go out at night? Hope you don't end up disabled. Difficult to go behind a bush if you're in a wheelchair...[/p][/quote]Thank you for the well being coment kalebmoledirt
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1:16pm Tue 24 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

stevobath wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.
So only able bodied people can go out at night?

Hope you don't end up disabled.

Difficult to go behind a bush if you're in a wheelchair...
Thanks for the well being comment .It would be difficult for anybody whether in a wheel chair or not
[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.[/p][/quote]So only able bodied people can go out at night? Hope you don't end up disabled. Difficult to go behind a bush if you're in a wheelchair...[/p][/quote]Thanks for the well being comment .It would be difficult for anybody whether in a wheel chair or not kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 3

1:25pm Tue 24 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

stevobath wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.
So only able bodied people can go out at night?

Hope you don't end up disabled.

Difficult to go behind a bush if you're in a wheelchair...
It would difficult for anyone to go behind a Bush whether in a chair or not around Ashley rd . Not withstanding the reaction of the householder who's garden it was in.do what most people do go before you leave home
[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: So if the participating business stayed open 24 hours a day in the unlikely event that a disabled person wanted the loo whilst out in the middle of the night would she stop moaning.do what other do Adapt.[/p][/quote]So only able bodied people can go out at night? Hope you don't end up disabled. Difficult to go behind a bush if you're in a wheelchair...[/p][/quote]It would difficult for anyone to go behind a Bush whether in a chair or not around Ashley rd . Not withstanding the reaction of the householder who's garden it was in.do what most people do go before you leave home kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -7

4:09pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Jeff in Parkstone says...

The whole business is truly appalling.

In January council enviro officers recommended closing the toilets due to the very poor state of repair of the block along with vandalism and drug usage.

In Jubilee Road many of us were pleased to hear the were closing - they are very run down - and would be replaced by a "community scheme".

But then we enter the world of information manipulation and shocking council decision making - no-one speaking for the general public ....

Specifically Enviro officers enquried of 14 outlets would they join the scheme. 11 said No. They could not offer any facilities. That left three.

Clearly from the very beginning there were going to be serious problems finding stores that would participate.

In fact and very strinkingly Ashley Road library (run of course by "council") could not offer toilets due to security and I would think Health and Safety issues, and indeed public liability.

There is then also the whole issue of the disabled, how people would feel having to "ask" to use toilets in an outlet, and the convenience of where any outlets would be located.

But despite all these obvious pitfalls and short-comings (even council's own library turning them down !) all seven Cllrs on the "Environmental Scrutiny Committee" voted for the toilet block to close - asking officers one and one only simple question, would there be a sign redirecting the public.

And so it is we see the shocking failure of Cllrs to do what they are supposed to do - scrutinise council proposals, think through consequences, consider if a proposal will work, speak up for the public - in this possilby run a trail run to see if the new scheme would work.

But no the toilets were closed and despite what Cllr Dion says above *there was no consultation with major stores let alone residents or the general public* - the programme was forced on the general public without a grain of consulation (as we had last year on the transport plans).

And so it is the scheme has been a shocking failure - as we know in our road first hand as do local businesses, members of the public are being driven to use alley-ways, in front of the closed toilets, and service areas.

In fact we took round a petition last Saturday on central parades. I have a list of over 20 stores who time and again said the public cannot use their toilets and they are very dismayed the numbers that have been asking the past month.

Yet council knowing this very well (eleven stores turned them down on their first inquiries) council and Cllrs still forced the policy on us all.

And that is council closing toilets that were used between 200 and 400 times a day. You would think it staggering common sense that no one cafe of even a supermarket over 200 yards away could even begin to offer equivalent toilet facilities.

But despite all the complaints to date no-one in council is of a mind to commit to what is needed which is the old run down building being taken down and replaced by pay-to-go toilets.

So there we go mass failure across the board - council, scruntiny commtttee, and ward Cllrs - whilst the general public left many times desparate for toilets - including as we are told in shops children wetting themselves, eldery crying.

It is truly shocking.

However one NB - Jubilee block was only open 9 to 6 I think. But then that is all that is really needed to match business hours. Otherwise it is clubs and pubs.

And the disability toilets in Watrose - I am told first hand they have been out of order for a week now. Which means *no disability toilets at all in Upper Parkstone*.

Jeff Williams
The whole business is truly appalling. In January council enviro officers recommended closing the toilets due to the very poor state of repair of the block along with vandalism and drug usage. In Jubilee Road many of us were pleased to hear the were closing - they are very run down - and would be replaced by a "community scheme". But then we enter the world of information manipulation and shocking council decision making - no-one speaking for the general public .... Specifically Enviro officers enquried of 14 outlets would they join the scheme. 11 said No. They could not offer any facilities. That left three. Clearly from the very beginning there were going to be serious problems finding stores that would participate. In fact and very strinkingly Ashley Road library (run of course by "council") could not offer toilets due to security and I would think Health and Safety issues, and indeed public liability. There is then also the whole issue of the disabled, how people would feel having to "ask" to use toilets in an outlet, and the convenience of where any outlets would be located. But despite all these obvious pitfalls and short-comings (even council's own library turning them down !) all seven Cllrs on the "Environmental Scrutiny Committee" voted for the toilet block to close - asking officers one and one only simple question, would there be a sign redirecting the public. And so it is we see the shocking failure of Cllrs to do what they are supposed to do - scrutinise council proposals, think through consequences, consider if a proposal will work, speak up for the public - in this possilby run a trail run to see if the new scheme would work. But no the toilets were closed and despite what Cllr Dion says above *there was no consultation with major stores let alone residents or the general public* - the programme was forced on the general public without a grain of consulation (as we had last year on the transport plans). And so it is the scheme has been a shocking failure - as we know in our road first hand as do local businesses, members of the public are being driven to use alley-ways, in front of the closed toilets, and service areas. In fact we took round a petition last Saturday on central parades. I have a list of over 20 stores who time and again said the public cannot use their toilets and they are very dismayed the numbers that have been asking the past month. Yet council knowing this very well (eleven stores turned them down on their first inquiries) council and Cllrs still forced the policy on us all. And that is council closing toilets that were used between 200 and 400 times a day. You would think it staggering common sense that no one cafe of even a supermarket over 200 yards away could even begin to offer equivalent toilet facilities. But despite all the complaints to date no-one in council is of a mind to commit to what is needed which is the old run down building being taken down and replaced by pay-to-go toilets. So there we go mass failure across the board - council, scruntiny commtttee, and ward Cllrs - whilst the general public left many times desparate for toilets - including as we are told in shops children wetting themselves, eldery crying. It is truly shocking. However one NB - Jubilee block was only open 9 to 6 I think. But then that is all that is really needed to match business hours. Otherwise it is clubs and pubs. And the disability toilets in Watrose - I am told first hand they have been out of order for a week now. Which means *no disability toilets at all in Upper Parkstone*. Jeff Williams Jeff in Parkstone
  • Score: -3

5:36pm Tue 24 Jun 14

shelfstacker says...

And so little by little Ashley Road is picked away at by Poole BC, a few less parking spaces here, a few less public toilets there. To me their agenda is cystal clear, they want to drive business out of the area by making it a god awful place to shop, thus freeing up a lot of prime development land that can be sold off for extra housing
And so little by little Ashley Road is picked away at by Poole BC, a few less parking spaces here, a few less public toilets there. To me their agenda is cystal clear, they want to drive business out of the area by making it a god awful place to shop, thus freeing up a lot of prime development land that can be sold off for extra housing shelfstacker
  • Score: -2

5:46pm Tue 24 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

shelfstacker wrote:
And so little by little Ashley Road is picked away at by Poole BC, a few less parking spaces here, a few less public toilets there. To me their agenda is cystal clear, they want to drive business out of the area by making it a god awful place to shop, thus freeing up a lot of prime development land that can be sold off for extra housing
Who votes for them ?
[quote][p][bold]shelfstacker[/bold] wrote: And so little by little Ashley Road is picked away at by Poole BC, a few less parking spaces here, a few less public toilets there. To me their agenda is cystal clear, they want to drive business out of the area by making it a god awful place to shop, thus freeing up a lot of prime development land that can be sold off for extra housing[/p][/quote]Who votes for them ? kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -7

8:27pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Jenny PoshPaws says...

The interesting part about this story for me, is how anyone is supposed to know that the facilities in the pub, cafe etc are available for use? I've been past the loos in question and haven't noticed any information signs letting cross legged people know about it. I've never tried to get my wheelchair into the pub, so can't comment on that, but know for sure that it won't go into Rosina's cafe - and I didn't realise that Waitrose (never having been in there more than once, can't afford to shop at Waitrose) had facilities anyway. Still, I know now and feel tempted to go and use them just to say I have. Spending a penny at Waitrose, how decadent! ;)
The interesting part about this story for me, is how anyone is supposed to know that the facilities in the pub, cafe etc are available for use? I've been past the loos in question and haven't noticed any information signs letting cross legged people know about it. I've never tried to get my wheelchair into the pub, so can't comment on that, but know for sure that it won't go into Rosina's cafe - and I didn't realise that Waitrose (never having been in there more than once, can't afford to shop at Waitrose) had facilities anyway. Still, I know now and feel tempted to go and use them just to say I have. Spending a penny at Waitrose, how decadent! ;) Jenny PoshPaws
  • Score: -2

8:31pm Tue 24 Jun 14

MJD says...

Hamworthy has the same problem with toilets. Its right out of order for thoughts less unfortunate. Some senior citizens cant go out on a Saturday afternoon or a Sunday or Bank holiday as the alternative toilets are closed.
Hamworthy has the same problem with toilets. Its right out of order for thoughts less unfortunate. Some senior citizens cant go out on a Saturday afternoon or a Sunday or Bank holiday as the alternative toilets are closed. MJD
  • Score: -2

1:17am Wed 25 Jun 14

sam.sprinks says...

I am disabled and I know that my disabled Grandmother has difficulty in most places. The worst places are McDonalds outlets. I have a RADAR key and would like to know why this sort of ridiculous decision was made in the first place. I know by law anywhere like a cafe cannot refuse a disabled person to use the lavatory. Problem is accessibility and handing out RADAR keys to people who are not necessarily disabled. Maybe councillors should spend a week in a wheelchair to see what it is like. CBC are slowly doimg the same as PBC. Such a selfish thing for the council to do.
I am disabled and I know that my disabled Grandmother has difficulty in most places. The worst places are McDonalds outlets. I have a RADAR key and would like to know why this sort of ridiculous decision was made in the first place. I know by law anywhere like a cafe cannot refuse a disabled person to use the lavatory. Problem is accessibility and handing out RADAR keys to people who are not necessarily disabled. Maybe councillors should spend a week in a wheelchair to see what it is like. CBC are slowly doimg the same as PBC. Such a selfish thing for the council to do. sam.sprinks
  • Score: -1

10:51am Wed 25 Jun 14

podgie says...

Can I say from the start that I totally support providing good care and access to genuinely disabled people.
What really grips my sphincter is lazy fat obese munters (normally supporting very tasteful tattoos) who spend their whole lives hoovering up the shelves of Iceland and the only exercise they partake in is reaching for the fag packet or popping down to collect the social.(You have seen the White Dee Type off the TV),when they get so obese they plonk themselves in mobility scooters and then jump on the disabled bandwagon,costing the taxpayer a fortune in wide ambulances .beds, diabetes,incontinenc
e pads etc.
Can I suggest the 3rd world diet which consists of one meal a day of rice and fish,+ 12 hours hard graft,that will soon get them back up and about and dancing from Icelands , The Spoons Pub and onto the tattoo parlour for some more tasteful and original body art.
Can I say from the start that I totally support providing good care and access to genuinely disabled people. What really grips my sphincter is lazy fat obese munters (normally supporting very tasteful tattoos) who spend their whole lives hoovering up the shelves of Iceland and the only exercise they partake in is reaching for the fag packet or popping down to collect the social.(You have seen the White Dee Type off the TV),when they get so obese they plonk themselves in mobility scooters and then jump on the disabled bandwagon,costing the taxpayer a fortune in wide ambulances .beds, diabetes,incontinenc e pads etc. Can I suggest the 3rd world diet which consists of one meal a day of rice and fish,+ 12 hours hard graft,that will soon get them back up and about and dancing from Icelands , The Spoons Pub and onto the tattoo parlour for some more tasteful and original body art. podgie
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6:26pm Wed 25 Jun 14

podgie says...

What a load of crap
What a load of crap podgie
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