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LIVE: Linda Lietaviete murder trial continues at Winchester Crown Court
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- The man accused of murdering a Bournemouth student is on trial at Winchester Crown Court today.
- Alvin Jay Santos, 25, was charged with murder following the death of 16-year-old Linda Lietaviete in December last year.
- The former Glenmoor schoolgirl's body was discovered at Horseshoe Common.
- A post-mortem into her death recorded that Miss Lietaviete had died of two stab wounds to the chest.
- Santos, of Wimborne Road in Bournemouth, denies the charge.
Court adjourns for the day.
The defence case continues tomorrow morning with the agreed facts, followed by the closing statements from both parties.
The judge asks Santos what he did with the knife when he "came to" and found Linda at his feet.
He says he dropped the knife at his side. He picked it up again. He didn't throw it in the pond.
Mr Mousley asks if there was a lot of blood from the defendant's cut hand after he got changed. He says yes.
Santos returns to the dock.
Mr Mousley asks if Santos clearly remembers putting his and Linda's clothing in the same place. He says he doesn't remember completely.
Now re-examination. In response to a question from the judge, Santos says he and Linda had been alone together for a similar amount of time before at New Year.
The judge asks why they went to a park on a cold, wet night. Santos says she suggested it.
"Using a knife is a dangerous thing," she says.
"You were prepared to use it. You carried one on the night you killed Linda, and you were prepared to use it."
"You took out a knife and stabbed her, intending to kill her."
He says "I have to disagree, I didn't intend to hurt Linda like that."
Ms Maylin asks if he want back to the scene after changing. He says no.
She says he told police when arrested "I've ruined my life".
"You were only worried about your life."
"Do you remember saying to police 'I was trying to protect my friend'?"
He might have, he says.
"I don't know, I was so drunk I don't know."
"The blackouts that you suffered, did you ever seek any medical help?"
He then says he went once but they said they couldn't help.
"And you didn't ask anyone else if they could help?"
No, he says.
"You were thinking to put them somewhere different," says Ms Maylin.
"I wasn't thinking very well that time. I think I put it in the same bin."
He says he put his clothes and Linda's in a bin together, he can't explain how his ended up outside his flat.
He says he tried to hide his clothing when he got back to the flat.
"You're thinking very carefully aren't you, Mr Santos?"
She says he put his and Linda's clothing in different places.
His clothes and the knife at the back of his block of flats.
Linda's clothes were found elsewhere.
"When you dragged her across the grass you wasn't moving?"
No, he says. He covered her with leaves and took the clothes he could remove from her with him. He was covered in blood.
"You tried to take off her clothes. How do the marks on her body in blood.. when did that happen?"
"I don't know, I was really drunk. Probably my right hand, the cut on my right hand dripping."
"Why did you need to touch her in that way?"
"I didn't touch her."
The defendant, who is distressed giving evidence, is trying to explain the order in which he moved Linda's body and attempted to hide her possessions.
He moved her across the grass and covered her with leaves after he took her clothing, he says.
He had already pulled her jeans down he says. He put his gloves on to do so.
He took her shoes, her bag, her sleeveless jacket and her phone, he says.
"You're thinking about what's happened and you are planning to hide what you have done?"
She says he was not panicking, he was "carefully thinking of hiding things".
"I'm panicking. I can agree I tried to hide those clothing," he says
"She'd fought you when you were stabbing her with the knife hadn't she?"
"I don't know."
"So you dragged her into the shadows and she still had her clothes on?"
She asks if Santos lifted her top to check for injuries. He says yes.
She says Linda "wasn't moving", was "on the ground by the path", according to his account.
"Before you move her do you look for any of her injuries?"
"Was she breathing?"
"Why did you move her if she was still breathing."
"I don't want anyone to react."
She says Santos was planning to try and cover it up.
"You made a decision, you were thinking about it, you didn't want people to see."
"I was in a panic, in a rush."
"In a rush to hide the fact it was you who stabbed Linda."
"At first, yes."
Ms Maylin resumes her cross-examination of defendant Alvin Santos.
There will be a short break.
Ms Maylin asks if they were stood up when she told him about the assault, yes he says.
"Did you want to help Linda when she was on the floor there? You didn't call 999?"
He says he panicked. "It was my mistake."
"We're you just more concerned about yourself, rather than Linda?"
"I didn't know what to say."
"You didn't want to get caught?"
"No, I disagree," he says.
"You know you showed your anger. You pulled a knife out didn't you?"
She asks if there was anything wrapped around the blade to stop it hurting him. He says no.
"You stabbed Linda at least seven times didn't you?"
"I don't know."
"What made you stop? How did you get control of yourself?"
"I don't know really."
Santos says they were not talking then, just listening to music.
"Where is Linda when she told you, on your account, she set you up with this 2011 assault?"
He says they were under the bridge.
"What did she say?"
He says she said she "set him up" when he was "in hospital".
"What was your reaction?"
Santos says "it is hard to explain."
Ms Maylin is asking about them sitting under the flyover.
He says he was "still happy" when they got to the flyover.
She asks what they were talking about. He says they didn't speak much as she was texting, he was drinking.
He says he gave her "a few cups" because she "insisted". "I don't like girls drinking."
Santos thinks she asked once after he came out of hospital, when he was back at work.
"That was in 2012," says Ms Maylin. She says again that it was he who wanted to go out with Linda, not the other way around.
"You told the jury that when you are really drunk Linda asks to be your girlfriend. You were drunk, did she ask to be your girlfriend?"
"When did she last ask?"
Santos says between 2011 and 2013.
Ms Maylin asks if she asked after he tarted work at the Russell Court, he says no.
That was in 2011 she says.
"Many more months before she asked again."
"She must have told you she was upset about splitting up from her boyfriend?"
"Did you ask why she was kicking things?"
Santos said he didn't ask about it and just talked about "funny things", "made a joke".
"What else did you talk about?"
"I don't know I was really drunk."
"You were with Linda for nearly two and three quarter hours on the common. What did you talk about?"
"We would talk randomly about stuff."
He says they spoke about her feet. Which were hurt from kicking "beans".
Santos says asked for some cannabis.
He says she "grabbed" at it and took two puffs. Then he finished it.
Ms Maylin asks why there was no cannabis in his blood. He doesn't know.
She asks why he he wanted to look good when he met her.
"Because you liked her?"
"Because you wanted to be her boyfriend?"
"Take us through a usual day, when would you take the knife out?"
"When I am worried, mostly at nighttime."
"When had you taken what you thought was speed, or amphetamine?"
"When I woke up, about eight."
"Where did you keep it?"
"In my jacket."
He says it was in his jacket when he met Linda. He denies giving any to her or taking any more himself.
"Even when Linda wouldn't help you about your assault you were still friends with her?"
She says Santos told police he had met the pair through Linda.
She asks if he responded to a request from the police for more information.
He says he had trouble getting information from Linda. He says she hung up when he called her.
Ms Maylin asks if, since the assault had had such an effect on him, he asked her about it the next time they met.
He says no, he didn't want to bring it up.
Ms Maylin says Santos knew the pair who assaulted him.
She says he was very drunk, having drunk a whole 70cl bottle of Black Star whisky.
She says he met up with the two men, and they stood talking for about half an hour.
Santos can't recall how long.
He says he can't remember what happened next.
Ms Maylin hands up a statement he made to police on December 23, 2011.
"Mr Santos it was you who wanted to go out with Linda wasn't it?"
"You knew she had boyfriends?"
"You knew she was under 18?"
Santos says he isn't sure, but says he knew she couldn't buy alcohol.
"In what year did you first meet Linda?"
Santos isn't sure.
"In 2009 you turned 21, Linda would've been 12. Was she looking like a child of 12, four years before she died when you met her?"
"She looked young, yes."
Ms Maylin asks if Santos knew she was still at school. No he says, but agrees she looked like she was of school age.
"Did she ever talk to you about doing her exams?"
No, he says, they would talk about "random things".
"I want to speak to you about your temper," says Ms Maylin.
People sometimes make him angry, he says.
She suggests alcohol may have made his temper worse. He says it may have done.
He says he was taking speed as he was working 60 hours a week.
"When did you first have a blackout?"
"It only happens when I am angry."
Ms Maylin asks him to confirm he only has problems with his temper since he came to the UK. He says yes.
He says he had no blackouts before he was assaulted. He is not sure how often he would have them afterwards. He would sometimes not know what he was doing at work.
Is that because he is "tired" or someone has made him angry.
Santos says it is when someone makes him angry. However, there were no concerns from his managers about him losing his temper.
The jury is back in.
Mr Mousley opens with a question.
"How do you feel about what you did to Linda?"
"I feel regret."
"Did you want this to happen?"
Now cross examination.
The case resumes at 2pm.
"Did you want the police to find her?"
Now a break for lunch.
"What did you expect your sister to do when you told her?"
"You could have called 999," says Mr Mousley.
"I didn't know what to say."
Santos says he then tried to work out what wounds she had using a light on his phone.
He lifted up her clothes, he saw a wound and blood.
He says he thought he might be able to save her. He thought she was still breathing then.
When he stopped looking at her wounds he looked at her face and it was frozen.
"I was really, really panicked. I tried to take of her clothes, everything."
"I was thinking about myself," he says.
He managed to remove her shoes and bag, but couldn't remove her jeans.
He moved her again from under the bridge and tried to cover her up with leaves.
"I didn't want people to see the body. I wasn't thinking very much."
He took several items of clothing, later found in a bin nearby, and returned home.
Santos went home, he says he can't remember his dieter speaking to him. "I was out of my mind."
His clothes were found in a bin liner near the entrance of the flat, Santos says he can't remember.
He then went back and told his sister what had happened.
"By the time I came back home, I wasn't out of my mind.
"I calmed down a bit and I told her what had happened."
Santos says Linda was not moving. He tried to speak to her. She was still breathing.
"Did you move her from there?"
"Yes underneath the bridge by the shadows."
"I don't want people to react. I don't want people to see."
Santos says he has had problems with his memory while working.
He says he gets "blackouts" when he is angry.
"What is the next thing that you remember after that?"
"She is on the ground. I was standing holding the knife."
"Can you remember anything about why she was on the ground?"
"Did you realise what you had done?"
"I was the one person who was there."
"She says she set me up, in hospital."
"It just came up," Santos says.
He says he couldn't think why someone would have assaulted him.
He was "really angry" about what happened and tried to find an explanation but he didn't learn anything until the night of Linda's death.
They were there for about an hour, says Santos.
Mr Mousley asks whether the path was busy.
"Yes," the defendant says two or three people passed by while they were there.
"Did you lose your temper, and lose your control when you were under the bridge?"
Santos says he drank more than half a litre of vodka that night.
"What effect did the vodka have on you?"
"Really, really drunk," says Santos.
They were talking, she played music on her phone. Some people passed by. He says it was a "really cold" night.
He says Linda said she was cold and put her hands under his shirt to warm them up.
It was raining "on and off" and they moved under the flyover.
"Had you taken anything else before you went out that night?"
"When I woke up I took some speed."
"You thought it was speed did you?"
"Did you take any other drug that night?"
Only cannabis he says.
Once on the common they went to "the pond", "she suggested it".
Now onto the events surrounding Linda's death.
Santos contacted Linda around 6.40pm to invite her for a drink. He was watching a Christmas parade.
He went home and they arranged to meet by Tesco.
"What was your reason for taking a knife with you?"
"I feel worried, loads of people around. Worried."
They bought vodka and walked on to the common.
"For months, agony," says Santos. He says he had problems walking, he was off work for months.
"Your sister told us she thought it changed you, do you?"
"Yes." Santos says he carried a knife around "some of the time" after leaving hospital as he was worried it might happen again.
"You told police you have a short temper?"
"Yes." Santos admits he had a short temper before he was attacked.
He had to have an operation on his jaw, which was wired. He says he was in hospital for about two weeks.
He was then supposed to return to the hospital for further appointments to remove the wire in his jaw, and about his head injury.
He says he went to one appointment to have his wire removed. He only saw the doctor about his head injury once.
Mr Mousley says medical evidence will be presented to the court later.
He says he was drunk, walking home through Bournemouth Gardens.
There he met an acquaintance who introduced him to another man, he says, and he can't remember much else, he woke up in hospital.
"What injuries did you understand you had in hospital?"
"A broken jaw, a chipped tooth, a stiff leg, on the right side, dizziness," he says.
In December 2011 Santos was beaten up, Mr Mousley says.
Did she want to go out with him before then. Yes, says Santos, but she was younger and he was focusing on his work, so he didn't want to.
Now Mr Mousley asks him to explain about the night he was beaten up.
Santos says they would meet "on the street" two or three times a week. Sometimes in a group, sometimes with one of her friends.
He says he thought she was about 18 when she died.
He says "she always text me". They used the mobile phone app Whatsapp to talk.
He and Linda saw each other the same amount as time went on.
"Did you want to be more than a friend?"
Santos says every time he would get drunk (not her) Linda would ask if he liked her and whether they could go out.
Santos is struggling to remember when he met Linda, he says "three to four years", when he was "21, 22".
"When you met her did you know how old she was?"
"What was your impression?"
"I think she is more mature with her age."
Mr Mousley says Santos is eight or nine years older than Linda. "Did you know she was quite a lot younger than you?"
Santos says he came to Bournemouth when he was 17.
When he was arrested he had been living in the Wimborne Road flat for two years.
He went to an English language college when he first arrived and got a job when he was about 20, giving out leaflets.
He worked as a porter at the Manchester Hotel, then in housekeeping and bar work at the Russell Court.
He trained at college once a week to become a professional chef.
Mr Mousley asks if he had to provide his own knives, he says yes.
Now the defence case begins with Alvin Santos, who is struggling with the oath. He has an interpreter with him.
He is originally from the Phillippines.
Mr Mousley says Santos intends to give as much evidence as he can in English.
The judge says it is important he understands what is being asked and answers how he wants to.
Cross-examination by William Mousley.
He says Santos was provided with pre-interview disclosure of some of the police evidence against him.
Reference was made to his sister's 999 call and interview, cuts to his hand, his comments during his arrest, and the body and items found.
Mr Mousley askes the officer to confirm that the police case was assisted through Santos' candour in his interviews.
He agrees and steps down from the witness box.
Next Ms Maylin is running through the agreed facts.
Santos says again that he panicked.
The interview reading concludes.
A few questions from the jury, read out by prosecutor Kerry Maylin. DS Seymour says the vodka bottle was never recovered.
Ms Maylin says bloodstained clothing was recovered from both Santos and Linda.
The officer shows the former's bloodstained mobile phone case, decorated with a £50 note design, to the court.
Santos told police that Linda told him she was responsible for the attack on him two years before. It made him "off the scale" angry.
The officer asks him to confirm that a 14-year-old girl sent someone to beat him up.
He says yes.
The officer asks why he didn't call 999 for an ambulance when he first saw Linda stabbed.
She had at least seven stab wounds, the officer says.
"I can't work out how it goes from friendly, like a little sister, to this," he says.
Santos says you can lose your temper. He admits he loses his temper easily.
The officer says she has defence wounds on her hands. He asks if she was taunting him. Santos says he can't remember.
"You've smoked some cannabis, you're drunk and you were angry, you stabbed her," he says.
He says he admitted stabbing her, but he doesn't know why.
The officer says there was quite an age gap.
Santos says that's why he wouldn't let her kiss him.
"She wanted to be your girlfriend?"
He says he viewed Linda as a "little sister". He says he had no sexual interest in her.
Santos says he thought Linda was 18, because she was "boyish, more mature", but the officer says she sent him a text when she was nearly 16.
Santos says scratches on his leg were caused by a neighbour's dog.
He says Linda didn't touch him. Except on the chest when her hands were cold.
The officer says he had scratches on his chest.
He says she was "playing", and his skin "marks easily".
He says they didn't fight.
It was the third interview.
Santos says he is a heavy drinker, a "binge drinker" who normally drinks spirits.
He says he smokes "one joint", sometimes every few days.
He says he tried Speed in 2010, doesn't otherwise take drugs.
He says he can happily "destroy one litre" of vodka. He says he would be drunk but still retains some control.
The police say Santos drank half a litre of vodka that night.
Questioned by police, he says he panicked after she was stabbed. He dragged her into the darkness under the flyover and checked her wounds using the light on his phone.
He says he then dragged her body off into the woods.
The next interview with Santos took place later that day.
The interview moves back to events.
Santos says he met Linda in Old Christchurch Road at around 7.30pm that night.
He was wearing a grey tracksuit and puffer jacket.
They went to the Coop to buy alcohol, then they went on to Subway, then on to Horseshoe Common, he says.
He says he and Linda were "just friends".
They met around five years before, through friends.
He says he didn't know how old she was and never asked.
He says she would ask him to kiss her when drunk, but he refused. He says his culture respects girls and "courts" them.
Santos also tells police he met up with Linda around once a week/fortnight.
He said he was panicking.
He then says he walked out into Dean Park Road.
The interview, with Santos, is from December 14.
He tells police he threw Linda's phone and shoe into a pond.
The first witness is Detective Sergeant Wayne Seymour who is reading the police interviews.
In come the jury.
Morning from Winchester Crown Court. We are waiting for the jury for the conclusion of the Crown's case.
Santos' defence is expected to begin later on this morning.
Here is our last story from the trial last week.
The trial is expected to start at 10am.
Good morning. Our reporter Will Frampton will be at Winchester Crown Court this morning, covering the ongoing trial of Alvin Jay Santos, accused of the murder of Linda Lietaviete.
He denies the charge.