Police oppose bid to open new ‘Smokin Rooster’ takeaway on Old Christchurch Road in Bournemouth

The former La Cantine cafe

The former La Cantine cafe

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A BID to open a new takeaway in Bournemouth’s clubbing district is being opposed by police, who fear it could undermine efforts to reduce violent crime.

Plans for a ‘Smokin Rooster’ restaurant and takeaway in Old Christchurch Road could prove a “potential flashpoint location” in Bournemouth, police claim.

Applicants Nasar and Yaser Iqbal want to turn a vacant restaurant unit into a chicken-based restaurant and takeaway that would be open until 5am seven days a week.

They stress they do not intend to sell alcohol and say the introduction of a new restaurant in the area could have a positive impact on Old Christchurch Road.

But PC Simon Bice, of Operation Protect, has written to the council to say the proposed establishment could jeopardise their efforts to improve the area.

Old Christchurch Road is currently the subject of a road improvement scheme, which will include night-time road closures and the relocation of taxi ranks.

His representation said: “Attempts should be made to control the opening of further licensed premises within designated areas within the overall aim of influencing a reduction or stabilisation in violent crime within the area.

“With this in mind the above premises is located within a ‘stress area’ – takeaways tend to become flash points for violence and disorder and a meeting point where groups congregate.

“As previously mentioned the new road layout is an attempt to avoid flashpoints and to reduce violent crime – agreeing to this premises licence in its current format would be potentially agreeing to another potential flashpoint location.”

The application will be considered by Bournemouth’s licensing committee on Tuesday, May 27.

The applicants declined an invitation to comment.

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11:36am Sat 24 May 14

billy bumble says...

So a Constable is now an official police spokesman??

Unbelievable
So a Constable is now an official police spokesman?? Unbelievable billy bumble
  • Score: -26

12:44pm Sat 24 May 14

bosco1 says...

Why do we need another chicken shop anyway along this stretch.Theres a new chicken shop opposite called "Roosters" thats always very busy and from the outside looks a very clean and well run establishment. Far to many takeaways in this surrounding area along with landsdowne/ holdenhurst road.Lets have a few more different shops.
Why do we need another chicken shop anyway along this stretch.Theres a new chicken shop opposite called "Roosters" thats always very busy and from the outside looks a very clean and well run establishment. Far to many takeaways in this surrounding area along with landsdowne/ holdenhurst road.Lets have a few more different shops. bosco1
  • Score: 28

1:15pm Sat 24 May 14

Glashen says...

billy bumble wrote:
So a Constable is now an official police spokesman??

Unbelievable
Probably the man who knows the most about the effect opening a takeaway here will have, today's police constable has a lot to cope with and high expectations of their capabilities, I see no issue with a PC presenting the police case against a permission as in this example.
[quote][p][bold]billy bumble[/bold] wrote: So a Constable is now an official police spokesman?? Unbelievable[/p][/quote]Probably the man who knows the most about the effect opening a takeaway here will have, today's police constable has a lot to cope with and high expectations of their capabilities, I see no issue with a PC presenting the police case against a permission as in this example. Glashen
  • Score: 42

2:33pm Sat 24 May 14

live-and-let-live says...

the police run the country now?
the police run the country now? live-and-let-live
  • Score: -35

2:42pm Sat 24 May 14

Chukki's uncle says...

live-and-let-live wrote:
the police run the country now?
Who else is gonna object ? Who is best placed to know what the effects will be ? Surely we have got enough ?
[quote][p][bold]live-and-let-live[/bold] wrote: the police run the country now?[/p][/quote]Who else is gonna object ? Who is best placed to know what the effects will be ? Surely we have got enough ? Chukki's uncle
  • Score: 30

4:11pm Sat 24 May 14

wadjit says...

in a free country someone can open a takeaway if they want to. its got nothing to do with anyone else, how many there already are or how long it is open for each day. its the attitude and education of people that has to improve not the attitude and education of a shop! i thought this was quite obvious but clearly not to some people.
people are entitled to voice their objections i suppose, as long as that is as far as it goes, in this case anyway.
in a free country someone can open a takeaway if they want to. its got nothing to do with anyone else, how many there already are or how long it is open for each day. its the attitude and education of people that has to improve not the attitude and education of a shop! i thought this was quite obvious but clearly not to some people. people are entitled to voice their objections i suppose, as long as that is as far as it goes, in this case anyway. wadjit
  • Score: -29

4:23pm Sat 24 May 14

KLH says...

The stressed they do not intend to sell alcohol. Which probably means that if they get the go ahead to open without alcohol being sold, an application to sell it will be made very shortly after opening...
The stressed they do not intend to sell alcohol. Which probably means that if they get the go ahead to open without alcohol being sold, an application to sell it will be made very shortly after opening... KLH
  • Score: 23

7:11pm Sat 24 May 14

GeorgeW64 says...

Perhaps if there were more choice of take aways there would be less trouble. Did PC clever clogs think of this or is he just too damned lazy to walk from one take away to another ?
Perhaps if there were more choice of take aways there would be less trouble. Did PC clever clogs think of this or is he just too damned lazy to walk from one take away to another ? GeorgeW64
  • Score: -23

7:45pm Sat 24 May 14

ashleycross says...

Absolutely disgraceful. If they were doing their jobs properly they would be closing down the bars that serve people until they are so drunk they can't go to a takeaway without becoming violent. About time Dorset police read the licensing legislation and got on with closing these places instead of picking on a harmless takeaway.
Absolutely disgraceful. If they were doing their jobs properly they would be closing down the bars that serve people until they are so drunk they can't go to a takeaway without becoming violent. About time Dorset police read the licensing legislation and got on with closing these places instead of picking on a harmless takeaway. ashleycross
  • Score: -13

1:01am Sun 25 May 14

wadjit says...

How can people give a negative score to those who have written comments that make perfect sense (ashleycross for example). The level of intelligence of some (and i stress some) echo readers worries me greatly. But sadly does not surprise me.
How can people give a negative score to those who have written comments that make perfect sense (ashleycross for example). The level of intelligence of some (and i stress some) echo readers worries me greatly. But sadly does not surprise me. wadjit
  • Score: -2

9:15am Sun 25 May 14

ashleycross says...

wadjit wrote:
How can people give a negative score to those who have written comments that make perfect sense (ashleycross for example). The level of intelligence of some (and i stress some) echo readers worries me greatly. But sadly does not surprise me.
A lot of police posting here Wadjit, and believe me, they do like a drink. And they don't like anyone telling them they've has enough.
[quote][p][bold]wadjit[/bold] wrote: How can people give a negative score to those who have written comments that make perfect sense (ashleycross for example). The level of intelligence of some (and i stress some) echo readers worries me greatly. But sadly does not surprise me.[/p][/quote]A lot of police posting here Wadjit, and believe me, they do like a drink. And they don't like anyone telling them they've has enough. ashleycross
  • Score: -2

9:22am Sun 25 May 14

wadjit says...

Chukki's uncle wrote:
live-and-let-live wrote:
the police run the country now?
Who else is gonna object ? Who is best placed to know what the effects will be ? Surely we have got enough ?
Its called supply and demand. That is why there are more restaurants than bowling ball shops for example, because more people want to eat than go bowling. You cant complain about the seemingly hundreds of coffee shops there are in Bournemouth if everyone is using them. Its how the world works.
[quote][p][bold]Chukki's uncle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]live-and-let-live[/bold] wrote: the police run the country now?[/p][/quote]Who else is gonna object ? Who is best placed to know what the effects will be ? Surely we have got enough ?[/p][/quote]Its called supply and demand. That is why there are more restaurants than bowling ball shops for example, because more people want to eat than go bowling. You cant complain about the seemingly hundreds of coffee shops there are in Bournemouth if everyone is using them. Its how the world works. wadjit
  • Score: -9

3:47pm Sun 25 May 14

live-and-let-live says...

the number of thumbs-down here is astonishing. are the police policing the Echo comments now?
the number of thumbs-down here is astonishing. are the police policing the Echo comments now? live-and-let-live
  • Score: -4

4:18pm Sun 25 May 14

KLH says...

live-and-let-live wrote:
the number of thumbs-down here is astonishing. are the police policing the Echo comments now?
Be great if like facebook you mouse over the thumbs up and see who's voted you up. And although FB doesn't have a down button, they do here...;)
[quote][p][bold]live-and-let-live[/bold] wrote: the number of thumbs-down here is astonishing. are the police policing the Echo comments now?[/p][/quote]Be great if like facebook you mouse over the thumbs up and see who's voted you up. And although FB doesn't have a down button, they do here...;) KLH
  • Score: -4

4:48pm Sun 25 May 14

Townee says...

Council don't want too many problems with this area now the new plush apartments are nearly finished and it has spent all that money improving the roads and area.
Council don't want too many problems with this area now the new plush apartments are nearly finished and it has spent all that money improving the roads and area. Townee
  • Score: -1

6:38pm Sun 25 May 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

wadjit wrote:
in a free country someone can open a takeaway if they want to. its got nothing to do with anyone else, how many there already are or how long it is open for each day. its the attitude and education of people that has to improve not the attitude and education of a shop! i thought this was quite obvious but clearly not to some people.
people are entitled to voice their objections i suppose, as long as that is as far as it goes, in this case anyway.
In a free SOCIETY people are free to object.
.
Who do you think the potential owners will be calling when their window's smashed at 3am or two stag parties clash after a skinful?
.
The Police are objecting because all of the trouble they have to deal with already at the 101 other takeaways there.
[quote][p][bold]wadjit[/bold] wrote: in a free country someone can open a takeaway if they want to. its got nothing to do with anyone else, how many there already are or how long it is open for each day. its the attitude and education of people that has to improve not the attitude and education of a shop! i thought this was quite obvious but clearly not to some people. people are entitled to voice their objections i suppose, as long as that is as far as it goes, in this case anyway.[/p][/quote]In a free SOCIETY people are free to object. . Who do you think the potential owners will be calling when their window's smashed at 3am or two stag parties clash after a skinful? . The Police are objecting because all of the trouble they have to deal with already at the 101 other takeaways there. HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: 5

11:12am Mon 26 May 14

wadjit says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
wadjit wrote:
in a free country someone can open a takeaway if they want to. its got nothing to do with anyone else, how many there already are or how long it is open for each day. its the attitude and education of people that has to improve not the attitude and education of a shop! i thought this was quite obvious but clearly not to some people.
people are entitled to voice their objections i suppose, as long as that is as far as it goes, in this case anyway.
In a free SOCIETY people are free to object.
.
Who do you think the potential owners will be calling when their window's smashed at 3am or two stag parties clash after a skinful?
.
The Police are objecting because all of the trouble they have to deal with already at the 101 other takeaways there.
You don't seem to understand. It isn't the takeaways themselves causing the problem, it is the people using them. People have a right to object of course, its free speech. As stupid as it sounds we have the right to get up at 3 in the morning and go and peacefully buy some chicken if we want to, if there is someone crazy enough to want to sell it at this time. People who cause a problem at these places are dictating to the majority. That's what i have a problem with.
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wadjit[/bold] wrote: in a free country someone can open a takeaway if they want to. its got nothing to do with anyone else, how many there already are or how long it is open for each day. its the attitude and education of people that has to improve not the attitude and education of a shop! i thought this was quite obvious but clearly not to some people. people are entitled to voice their objections i suppose, as long as that is as far as it goes, in this case anyway.[/p][/quote]In a free SOCIETY people are free to object. . Who do you think the potential owners will be calling when their window's smashed at 3am or two stag parties clash after a skinful? . The Police are objecting because all of the trouble they have to deal with already at the 101 other takeaways there.[/p][/quote]You don't seem to understand. It isn't the takeaways themselves causing the problem, it is the people using them. People have a right to object of course, its free speech. As stupid as it sounds we have the right to get up at 3 in the morning and go and peacefully buy some chicken if we want to, if there is someone crazy enough to want to sell it at this time. People who cause a problem at these places are dictating to the majority. That's what i have a problem with. wadjit
  • Score: -4

11:32pm Mon 26 May 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

wadjit wrote:
HRH of Boscombe wrote:
wadjit wrote:
in a free country someone can open a takeaway if they want to. its got nothing to do with anyone else, how many there already are or how long it is open for each day. its the attitude and education of people that has to improve not the attitude and education of a shop! i thought this was quite obvious but clearly not to some people.
people are entitled to voice their objections i suppose, as long as that is as far as it goes, in this case anyway.
In a free SOCIETY people are free to object.
.
Who do you think the potential owners will be calling when their window's smashed at 3am or two stag parties clash after a skinful?
.
The Police are objecting because all of the trouble they have to deal with already at the 101 other takeaways there.
You don't seem to understand. It isn't the takeaways themselves causing the problem, it is the people using them. People have a right to object of course, its free speech. As stupid as it sounds we have the right to get up at 3 in the morning and go and peacefully buy some chicken if we want to, if there is someone crazy enough to want to sell it at this time. People who cause a problem at these places are dictating to the majority. That's what i have a problem with.
You don't seem to understand I'm afraid.
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The world's not perfect. The Police have a budget and these places always attract trouble late night, early morning. That's why they're objecting.
.
Again you still don't understand. The people causing problems in these places are from the pub/nightclub business and without them there would be no custom for these takeaways. They are the majority (the demand part of supply and demand).
[quote][p][bold]wadjit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wadjit[/bold] wrote: in a free country someone can open a takeaway if they want to. its got nothing to do with anyone else, how many there already are or how long it is open for each day. its the attitude and education of people that has to improve not the attitude and education of a shop! i thought this was quite obvious but clearly not to some people. people are entitled to voice their objections i suppose, as long as that is as far as it goes, in this case anyway.[/p][/quote]In a free SOCIETY people are free to object. . Who do you think the potential owners will be calling when their window's smashed at 3am or two stag parties clash after a skinful? . The Police are objecting because all of the trouble they have to deal with already at the 101 other takeaways there.[/p][/quote]You don't seem to understand. It isn't the takeaways themselves causing the problem, it is the people using them. People have a right to object of course, its free speech. As stupid as it sounds we have the right to get up at 3 in the morning and go and peacefully buy some chicken if we want to, if there is someone crazy enough to want to sell it at this time. People who cause a problem at these places are dictating to the majority. That's what i have a problem with.[/p][/quote]You don't seem to understand I'm afraid. . The world's not perfect. The Police have a budget and these places always attract trouble late night, early morning. That's why they're objecting. . Again you still don't understand. The people causing problems in these places are from the pub/nightclub business and without them there would be no custom for these takeaways. They are the majority (the demand part of supply and demand). HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: 1

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