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LIVE COVERAGE: Public meeting over Navitus wind farm plans
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- A public meeting is being held at the BIC over how Bournemouth council should respond to the Navitus Bay wind farm application.
- The Planning Inspectorate has confirmed Navitus Bay has lodged a valid planning application and has published 18,000 pages of supporting documents.
- The £3billion wind farm would consist of up to 194 turbines, up to 200 metres high.
- Cables would hit land at Taddiford Gap, between Barton-on-Sea and New Milton, and run 22 miles to a new sub-station at Mannington near Wimborne.
- Bournemouth Borough Council does not get to decide on the application but is being consulted.
- The Planning Inspectorate is expected to make the final decision next year.
Just got the audience figures, some 630 people in attendance.
All 600 or so residents have now left the BIC and the meeting has concluded.— @bournemouthbc 10 May 2014
Meeting over. Council leader John Beesley tells the Daily Echo: "It is important to state that the views of residents expressed through the consultation process today carry very significant weight in the process."
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Tony Williams says the meeting has shown how "proud" people are of the area. Concluding, he thanks the speakers and the audience for the respect shown in the public section.
Cheryl Beal from Southbourne is concerned about "40 decibels of wind turbine noise", at night she says.
Now physicist Dr John Yelland has the microphone, it was he who wrote a noise impact assessment reported in the Daily Echo.
Last speaker Rachael says "most people don't want a Navitus Bay wind farm, how do you want to get your power?" Lots of answers coming from the floor, few audible.
"3 years of ( construction) hell overplayed..." http://t.co/laH56c2Rry— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
"Grateful for debate raised by mps." At Navitus BIC debate http://t.co/DRJgdwdLgF— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
David Stokes is deeply concerned about an economic threat to the town.
He says we should take our fair share of energy generation in the country.
As for complaints over the construction process, he works in construction and, he says, is used to complaints from people who are later pleased to see the work done.
A Ms Crane says the whole designated area could theoretically be filled with wind farms in future. Which concerns her.
She would like to see the council's tourism survey.
Tony Williams doesn't want the council to be accused of trying to generate car parking revenue by overrunning, he says, so only a few speakers to go.
Residents express their views on the Navitus plans at the BIC http://t.co/tLlYels4l8— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
Jane who works in the energy "field" says wind variability, oft mentioned, was a problem in the past but not so much now.
But we are the "Saudi Arabia of wind", she says of the UK. She is also not much convinced by the council's 'effect on tourism' figures.
There are a steady stream of people leaving now.
Derek Gamble says lots of points made about why not to have a wind farm in Bournemouth, not many about problems during the construction process.
He has worked on wind farms in Germany he says.
They last 15 years, theny must then be demolished with "another three years of disruption".
He would prefer to see future development of nuclear and tidal power.
And another speaker, whose name I missed, says she finds turbines "quite majestic".
Tony Woodcock, a Poole councillor who lives in Bournemouth, wants to congratulate the council for the meeting, some applause for that.
We haven't heard a lot about the economic impact he says. We are told that only 60 new jobs will be in this area.
We are likely to be paying 2.4 million pounds per extra job created, he says, due to the "excess energy price cost".
He is concerned about what he says will be tunnelling under the railway line near Christchurch, for the cables.
And the cliffs are "totally unstable".
Another speaker says most people are talking about how it will affect them, but "we are exporting devastation".
"We love our views, do we destroy other people's?"
Professor John Sharpe. "Information from the company is unclear and misleading..." http://t.co/WRc6zgaXRM— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
Professor John Sharp from Highcliffe notes the cable path is "an eight lane motorway, totally denuded". He says more than 3,500 mature oak trees will be cut down for this.
He says information from the company is "misleading".
John Dobb strongly supports the wind farm, poor people around the world are suffering the effects of climate change, he says.
He is "willing to accept a bit of a hit on my visual amenity" so "we can do our bit".
But, he says, mitigation is important to reduce environmental damage from the project. He would like to see it in a different location.
Also, he says, the queen has nothing to do with the Crown Estate and is a very nice lady.
Leslie Jones "...for our generation and future generations " http://t.co/eZZWp5EDJ1— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
Monica Clarke was referring to the turbines there.
Lesley Jones says "we have something really unique here and we owe it to future generations to preserve that".
Monica Clarke, what happens after 25 years, how much will it cost to get rid of them?
Bournemouth encourages people to holiday in the UK rather than take planes and thus "does its bit", says another resident.
Mike hockley, local resident speaks at the Navitus BIC meeting http://t.co/hy0NPIIDPt— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
"I can leave here with a clear conscience," she adds. And leaves.
Another speaker is concerned that there should be a report into potential disasters such as oil spills, possibly resulting from the development.
Tony Yates of Hengistbury Head Residents' Association, he says simply that residents "overwhelmingly" oppose the project.
And another speaker believes the council should write to the queen as she is angry with the Crown Estate's role in the whole thing.
Pleased to speak at the Jeffersonian style big BIC wind farm meeting today. Bottom line: Bournemouth does tourism - not wind farms.— @TobiasEllwoodMP 10 May 2014
Henry Shackter, sorry about any misspellings.
"Do not allow another blot on the landscape," he says referring to the IMAX building.
"Climate change will have a far greater effect on the landscape than this wind farm," says Angela Pooley from East Dorset Friends of the Earth.
Some jeers to that, Mr Williams has asked the audience to respect speakers.
Chris colledge of westcliff residents association speaks at the Navitus BIC meeting http://t.co/ge3ArHQf0l— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
Chris Colledge of West Cliff Residents' Association echoes Cllr Beesley's view that "we are custodians of Bournemouth". He says the majority of West a Cliff residents feel Navitus is too big and too close.
As a member of the angling community, he says "one cannot underestimate the effect this will have on the marine life we are privileged enough to have in our area".
"It seems to me the Crown Estate are trying to contract out the seas to make revenue."
Despite shorter speaking times, @TobiasEllwoodMP makes a stand in opposition to navitus http://t.co/XgEfT096zT— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
@Conor_BurnsMP speaks in opposition to the navitus project at BIC navitus meeting http://t.co/nENIsjljvX— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
And Mr Ellwood's brief speech brings us to the public questions section.
Sadly not many people giving their names before speaking as invited by chairman Tony Williams.
Cllr John beesley leader of Bournemouth council at the BIC navitus meeting http://t.co/rgU8ojJw4p— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
"We are an exceptional resort," like Barcelona he says, and people will not visit with a backdrop of wind farms.
He also is "100 per cent" against the proposal.
Mr Burns says in response to accusations of NIMBYism - "My back yard is a World Heritage Site", apparently quoting a commentator on the Daily Echo site.
On comes Bournemouth East MP Tobias Ellwood.
#navitus decision to be made after May 2015 by the Secretary of State following recommendations by Planning Inspectorate.— @bournemouthbc 10 May 2014
@bournemouthbc Standing ovation for anti Navitus campaigner Roy Pointer. Well done Roy - Navitus is a bad plan in the wrong place.— @pdewhurst 10 May 2014
He is "absolutely 100 per cent opposed" to the project.
He is "angry" about how the company has treated the community.
It is "in the wrong place", "very close and very visible".
He says we need to pass on our area unspoiled to future generations, and safeguard local jobs.
Only two more speakers, first is Bournemouth West MP Conor Burns.
"One of the biggest issues to confront our town in a generation," he opens.
The council needs to do more to investigate.
He says the council are custodians of "Britain's most beautiful resort".
But the decision will be made by the government, based on the views of the Planning Inspectorate.
Council will reflect views of residents, based on facts.
But, he says, "we are alarmed by this project".
Council needs to concentrate on scale, closeness, height, noise, visual amenity, he says, as the statutory consultee.
The decision will be based on facts and will not be pre-determined.
Also, the council's research shows the impact on tourism could be considerable, he adds.
Council leader John Beesley up next, a round of applause to start.
He says the process of working with Navitus has been "frustrating", noting broken promises and a struggle to get information or create accurate visualisations of the project.
@EchoJon @bournemouthbc Quote of the day: 'Birds enjoy finding their way through spinning turbine blades'!! You couldn't make it up.— @twixtchines 10 May 2014
"We want to see this scheme quickly confined to the dustbin of history," he says.
More applause. The audience is becoming rather more vocal but is still well mannered.
@bournemouthbc Huge anti Navitus presence http://t.co/1B8r2pp0j7— @pdewhurst 10 May 2014
Mr Pointer repeats the surveyed 14 per cent reduction in visitors.
But he now moves on to "shipping dangers" and the threat to birds.
Turbines can have tip speed of 200mph "what chance does a flock of birds have" he says.
Many hundreds of residents attending our public meeting to hear economic, environmental & community views both for & against #navitus bay.— @bournemouthbc 10 May 2014
Residents' complaints, he lists -
Wind energy is expensive.
Government recommends a 12 mile limit for offshore projects.
UNESCO haven't made a decision on the heritage status of the Jurassic Coast.
Noise. This site is about twice the power of other sites.
Massive turnout at the BIC for the Council public meeting on the #navitus proposed wind farm off Bournemouth coast— @Conor_BurnsMP 10 May 2014
Miles of glorious Blue Flag beaches, fantastic "unique" view, Bournemouth is special he says.
People think you're "nuts" when you tell them a wind farm is going in the bay, he says.
Next Roy Pointer of the Poole and Christchurch Bay's Association.
Navitus is "too big, too close, and in the wrong location" he says, netting a round of applause.
Susan Chapman, green campaigner at BIC navitus meeting. http://t.co/LHTUhrEUDD— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
There is no evidence of turbines affecting tourism, she says.
Claims about noise are false. No complaints about the airport, she says.
She says she has asked the council to quantify mankind's chances of surviving the century.
"Lets say yes to Navitus, yes to a clean future for our children," she concludes to mixed cheers and boos.
She asks what the council is doing to contribute.
She says the area could benefit from the development of a green economy.
Also, wind power "does work" she says.
Most of the objection based on the view. Images seen by the public in the Daily Echo and elsewhere are misleading, she says, as they are close-ups.
The Council does not make the decision on the #navitus wind park, it is a consultee in the process. Residents' opinions will inform our view— @bournemouthbc 10 May 2014
Applause at Andrew langleys closing statements at navitus meeting at the BIc http://t.co/UrlXh0ObaR— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
Notes being made from statements by Dr andrew Langley of challenge navitus http://t.co/OLmfYVXDiK— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
Urgent action is needed to deal with climate change she says.
She lists an array of sources, including the IPCC, describing the dangers posed by future climate change.
Described as possibly the area's most active green campaigner, Susan Chapman, from Southbourne.
She is here for future generations, she says, who "aren't very well represented here today".
"We have choices about where we build onshore wind farms.
"Navitus Bay is just a bad plan and in the wrong place."
Strong applause for Dr Langley as he concludes.
He says part of the wealth of the region is in its landscape.
On the national picture, he says an area the size of Wales is designated for wind energy, including sites further from the coast in the North Sea.
You should be able to see the wind farm when you can see the Isle of Wight, he says.
And they will have flashing navigation lights.
Dr Langley says the noise and debris from pile driving at sea will have an adverse impact on marine organisms.
He says at least five million square metres of sea bed would be affected.
"If this level of destruction were occurring on land where we could see it I'm sure there would be much more of an outcry."
The turbines are "very large structures which can be seen at long range".
He now mentions onshore facilities, including a 22mile high voltage cable, a major civil engineering project equivalent to an eight lane motorway, he says.
Dr Andrew Langley speaks at BIC navitus meeting http://t.co/N6WXE6PCbk— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
"(Bournemouth) is exceptional, and we need to keep that" Mark Smith , director of tourism at the BIC http://t.co/VA2xigIzkH— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
At the centre of the bay, mostly lined by cliffs, the project would be visible from all around, he says.
Affecting England's only World Heritage Site and other areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty around the bay.
Busy tregonwell hall navitus meeting at the BIC. Mark Smith , tourism director speaks. http://t.co/IImbRyh7Yd— @EchoJon 10 May 2014
Next Dr Andrew Langley of campaign group Challenge Navitus, who says the location is a compromise.
He shows a map of the site, just over 14 miles from Bournemouth, "really quite close", taking up around a third of the licensed area.
RT @EchoJon: Mike unsworth navitus project director speaks at the BIC http://t.co/dW8of8wqJe— @bournemouthbc 10 May 2014
At the Princess Amalia site in the Netherlands, same developer, the site is 25 miles offshore and has no visual impact on the beach.
In summary, significant visitor economy damage, harm suggested to a global asset, missed opportunity for a project better suited to the area.
Mr Smith is comparing Bournemouth with other areas around the country where wind farms exist.
He says wind farms and tourism are not mutually exclusive. But in the Lake District they have been kept away from "special areas".
He says visitor numbers will be down 32 per cent after five years, down 14 per cent in the long term according to a survey, although other areas haven't experienced that decline, he says.
140 jobs promised inthe area, but only in one host port.
7 million visitors to seafront per year, views described as "breath-taking" on Tripadvisor.
He says images of the project on the Navitus website are misleading.
The hall is still slowly filling up. Several hundred people here but it is not quite full.
Noise levels will be within accceptable parameters.
He says many other offshore wind farms are within sight of tourist resorts and have not damaged tourism there.
This concludes his remarks.
Council director of tourism Mark Smith is next.
He says the company is working with the government and UNESCO with regard to concerns that the project might damage the heritage status of the Jurassic Coast.
The government, he says, has judged that there would not be a significant impact.
He is now asking people to base their views on facts.
He says it is not a requirement that offshore wind farms are 12 nautical miles from the shore.
He says Navitus has consulted a wide array of groups about the danger the turbines might present to birds. The impact on populations would be "not significant".
He wants to ensure local businesses working in renewables, or industries which can be applied, are involved to "bring value to the area".
In submitting the application the firm sets maximum parameters for turbine height and the size of the wind farm, allowing some lee-way.
1.3 million tonnes of carbon offset by the project, he says.
He opens his remarks by discussing wind power in general terms.
The UK is a world leader in wind energy technology, he says, and the government see the sector as a job creator.
Welcome to our live coverage of today's wind farm meeting.
Navitus Bay project director Mike Unsworth is the first speaker.
Packed @bournemouthbc #navitus wind farm residents meeting about to start at @bicpav http://t.co/dRTudnCWGd— @GeorgiaTurner 10 May 2014
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