Kite surfers will need £20 permit to ride the waves in Poole Harbour

FLYING HIGH: A kite surfer in Sandbanks

FLYING HIGH: A kite surfer in Sandbanks

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ALL kite surfers enjoying their sport in Poole Harbour will now have to pay £20 a year to do so.

Following months of consultation with the kite surfing community and others, Poole Harbour Commissioners has introduced a kite surfing permit scheme.

It came into force on March 28 from when all kite surfers must have a valid permit displayed when they ride the waves in Poole Harbour.

The greater regulation is aimed at improving safety in a sport whose popularity has increased along with a larger number of accidents, say PHC.

Over the years PHC has opted for an educational and support approach, which included regular meetings with kite surfers, being involved in setting up Poole Kite Surfing Club and creating a code of practice.

PHC says this went some way to improving the safety of the sport, however over recent years increased popularity has led to more accidents.

Harbour master, Captain Brian Murphy said: “Thank you to all those who have supported this process and have provided positive and constructive feedback.

“The sport will be monitored carefully going forward and it is hoped that together we can ensure the activity is as safe as possible.”

The move comes after months of consultation with the kite surfing community, the British Kite Sports Association, Borough of Poole, Natural England and the RNLI.

Whitley Lake is extremely popular with sailboarders and kite surfers and the shallow water makes it an ideal place to learn.

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12:09pm Tue 15 Apr 14

BarrHumbug says...

OK but it doesn't explain where or how the revenue from the permit will be used?
OK but it doesn't explain where or how the revenue from the permit will be used? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 17

12:14pm Tue 15 Apr 14

glendower2909 says...

Thin end of the wedge in my opinion and I am not a kite surfer. Soon we will be charged for flying kites, swimming in the sea, fishing, kayaking and probably even setting foot on the sand.

While this has been dressed up as a safety issue when you consider that any oik can beg buy or borrow a high powered boat and venture off anywhere they like on the sea with no training or any licensing then
it cannot be down to safety. Just another tax on joe public.
Thin end of the wedge in my opinion and I am not a kite surfer. Soon we will be charged for flying kites, swimming in the sea, fishing, kayaking and probably even setting foot on the sand. While this has been dressed up as a safety issue when you consider that any oik can beg buy or borrow a high powered boat and venture off anywhere they like on the sea with no training or any licensing then it cannot be down to safety. Just another tax on joe public. glendower2909
  • Score: 34

12:15pm Tue 15 Apr 14

crazybird says...

It will undoubtedly be lining the fat pockets of the council. How long will it be before we have to pay to breath fresh air?
It will undoubtedly be lining the fat pockets of the council. How long will it be before we have to pay to breath fresh air? crazybird
  • Score: 31

12:30pm Tue 15 Apr 14

BIGTONE says...

It came into force on March 28 from when all kite surfers must have a valid permit displayed when they ride the waves in Poole Harbour........

Kerrrching.....they can't be left out of making money on something popular.

Soooo where are they going to display the permit..stitched into the forehead?
How will they enforce it......a kite surfer with a blue light on? LOL.
It came into force on March 28 from when all kite surfers must have a valid permit displayed when they ride the waves in Poole Harbour........ Kerrrching.....they can't be left out of making money on something popular. Soooo where are they going to display the permit..stitched into the forehead? How will they enforce it......a kite surfer with a blue light on? LOL. BIGTONE
  • Score: 33

12:34pm Tue 15 Apr 14

live-and-let-live says...

the british sheep will pay up as usual and next year it will go up to £25 etc etc,
just like the green bin charge which went up this year. if kite surfers have to pay, then soon it will be kayakers, and sailing boats, and snorkelers, swimmers, fishermen, kids paddling. sandcastle builders.
but keep on paying folks. you must like doing it or else you would fight back.
the british sheep will pay up as usual and next year it will go up to £25 etc etc, just like the green bin charge which went up this year. if kite surfers have to pay, then soon it will be kayakers, and sailing boats, and snorkelers, swimmers, fishermen, kids paddling. sandcastle builders. but keep on paying folks. you must like doing it or else you would fight back. live-and-let-live
  • Score: 24

1:15pm Tue 15 Apr 14

speedy231278 says...

So... they'll just go somewhere else. There's a reason shopper go to Castlepoint over the centre of Poole and Bournemouth, no greedy council charges!
So... they'll just go somewhere else. There's a reason shopper go to Castlepoint over the centre of Poole and Bournemouth, no greedy council charges! speedy231278
  • Score: 20

1:19pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Phixer says...

Nature gives us the air and the water for free - but Poole Council is charging for it!

Is the council pension fund not making a good return??
Nature gives us the air and the water for free - but Poole Council is charging for it! Is the council pension fund not making a good return?? Phixer
  • Score: 22

1:23pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Hessenford says...

Good God, and council wonder why people accuse them of finding more ways to raise revenue, they've already tried to price us off the roads and now they are starting on the sea, money grabbing morons.
Good God, and council wonder why people accuse them of finding more ways to raise revenue, they've already tried to price us off the roads and now they are starting on the sea, money grabbing morons. Hessenford
  • Score: 17

1:36pm Tue 15 Apr 14

In Absentia says...

No comment on how they plan to enforce this though. Easier said than done.
No comment on how they plan to enforce this though. Easier said than done. In Absentia
  • Score: 12

1:48pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Perihelion says...

Good old award winning Echo.
Where does a kite surfer get the Permit, and is it an annual Permit? What is the Penalty for not having a Permit?
I was in the harbour a while ago, and a small boat was cockelling at high tide in Whitely Lake - so I reported it to PHC. Response: 'Our vessels are too large to patrol that shallow water, so we are unable to do anything about the cockeling boat'!
Good old award winning Echo. Where does a kite surfer get the Permit, and is it an annual Permit? What is the Penalty for not having a Permit? I was in the harbour a while ago, and a small boat was cockelling at high tide in Whitely Lake - so I reported it to PHC. Response: 'Our vessels are too large to patrol that shallow water, so we are unable to do anything about the cockeling boat'! Perihelion
  • Score: 17

2:45pm Tue 15 Apr 14

TalkToTheTrees says...

Do some people actually read these articles? "Poole Harbour Commissioners has introduced a kite surfing permit scheme." Where have you got the idea that the Council are charging?
Do some people actually read these articles? "Poole Harbour Commissioners has introduced a kite surfing permit scheme." Where have you got the idea that the Council are charging? TalkToTheTrees
  • Score: 10

4:01pm Tue 15 Apr 14

fireflier says...

MORE FREAKING TAXATION!!!!

When will qwe ever learn folks....we are being fleeced by authorities who tax us ...JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN? Wonderful for those who like to empty our pockets.
MORE FREAKING TAXATION!!!! When will qwe ever learn folks....we are being fleeced by authorities who tax us ...JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN? Wonderful for those who like to empty our pockets. fireflier
  • Score: 5

4:29pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Hessenford says...

TalkToTheTrees wrote:
Do some people actually read these articles? "Poole Harbour Commissioners has introduced a kite surfing permit scheme." Where have you got the idea that the Council are charging?
I suspect the council have got their grubby little hands in it somewhere, what ever way you look at it this is just another tax on peoples enjoyment.
[quote][p][bold]TalkToTheTrees[/bold] wrote: Do some people actually read these articles? "Poole Harbour Commissioners has introduced a kite surfing permit scheme." Where have you got the idea that the Council are charging?[/p][/quote]I suspect the council have got their grubby little hands in it somewhere, what ever way you look at it this is just another tax on peoples enjoyment. Hessenford
  • Score: 3

4:33pm Tue 15 Apr 14

sunny1966 says...

They are in there again, people having fun cant have that lets tax it or see what we can get out of it, Leaches.
They are in there again, people having fun cant have that lets tax it or see what we can get out of it, Leaches. sunny1966
  • Score: 10

7:48pm Tue 15 Apr 14

mythoughts! says...

absolute joke... well PHC council or whoever you are + and i am sorry to say some of the busy body local kitesurfing shops/teachers etc and you know who you are!! you can go and take a running jump because there is absolutely no way jose that i will ever pay for a kitesurfing permit in poole harbour. the stupid no kite zone was annoying enough but i can just about understand the reasons for you doing that. the wind, water is free you dont own it so dont tax it
absolute joke... well PHC council or whoever you are + and i am sorry to say some of the busy body local kitesurfing shops/teachers etc and you know who you are!! you can go and take a running jump because there is absolutely no way jose that i will ever pay for a kitesurfing permit in poole harbour. the stupid no kite zone was annoying enough but i can just about understand the reasons for you doing that. the wind, water is free you dont own it so dont tax it mythoughts!
  • Score: 9

8:24pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Miss Appropriate says...

It's a shame the PHC has to charge a permit fee. The government, NHS and various health organisations are encouraging us to be more active due to obesity etc. most land based sports have health and safety issues but we are not charged a permit fee for these activities! I understand that accidents happen in the water no more than any other sport but the water where they mainly kite surf is shallow. For those that are in deeper water, we have the RNLI that I know a lot of us support.
I agree with glendower2909 it's the people that go out and buy boats and then take them out on the water with no idea of safety, tides or channels etc I can't buy a car and drive it without tax, insurance and a valid driving licence, no boat should be in the water without these either.
It's a shame the PHC has to charge a permit fee. The government, NHS and various health organisations are encouraging us to be more active due to obesity etc. most land based sports have health and safety issues but we are not charged a permit fee for these activities! I understand that accidents happen in the water no more than any other sport but the water where they mainly kite surf is shallow. For those that are in deeper water, we have the RNLI that I know a lot of us support. I agree with glendower2909 it's the people that go out and buy boats and then take them out on the water with no idea of safety, tides or channels etc I can't buy a car and drive it without tax, insurance and a valid driving licence, no boat should be in the water without these either. Miss Appropriate
  • Score: 6

8:31pm Tue 15 Apr 14

gerbil112 says...

Instead of speculating, why not just read the PHC Order: http://www.phc.co.uk
/downloads/notices_m
ariners/2014-12-Kite
-Surfing-General-Dir
ection.pdf
Instead of speculating, why not just read the PHC Order: http://www.phc.co.uk /downloads/notices_m ariners/2014-12-Kite -Surfing-General-Dir ection.pdf gerbil112
  • Score: -2

8:40pm Tue 15 Apr 14

live-and-let-live says...

mythoughts! wrote:
absolute joke... well PHC council or whoever you are + and i am sorry to say some of the busy body local kitesurfing shops/teachers etc and you know who you are!! you can go and take a running jump because there is absolutely no way jose that i will ever pay for a kitesurfing permit in poole harbour. the stupid no kite zone was annoying enough but i can just about understand the reasons for you doing that. the wind, water is free you dont own it so dont tax it
you're absolutely right and I hope everyone else follows suit. its an outrageous tax on freedom. don't let it happen.
[quote][p][bold]mythoughts![/bold] wrote: absolute joke... well PHC council or whoever you are + and i am sorry to say some of the busy body local kitesurfing shops/teachers etc and you know who you are!! you can go and take a running jump because there is absolutely no way jose that i will ever pay for a kitesurfing permit in poole harbour. the stupid no kite zone was annoying enough but i can just about understand the reasons for you doing that. the wind, water is free you dont own it so dont tax it[/p][/quote]you're absolutely right and I hope everyone else follows suit. its an outrageous tax on freedom. don't let it happen. live-and-let-live
  • Score: 9

8:55pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Reader Echo says...

I have been Kitesurfing at Sandbanks for quite some years. I took lessons and have always had insurance through the BKSA.

A few years back I complained to the council about dogs mess and discarded barbecues on the part of the beach in question.
Poole council informed me that PHC was responsible for the mess. After several approaches what did PHC do, absolutely nothing!

Now when I see PHC’s involvement in the destruction of the new proposed marina halfway across the harbour from Poole Quay, it seems that the prime motivator of PHC is quite simply money and greed.

I have been a member of the BKSA for many years and this is the first I have heard about this extortion from PHC, I therefore simply do not believe about the months of consultation rubbish at all.

It now remains to be seen how many Kitesurfers are prepared to ignore PHC, however I for one am considering giving up using Sandbanks in the future as I do not think that PHC are acting in the interests of safety or the good of Poole Harbour, just greed!
I have been Kitesurfing at Sandbanks for quite some years. I took lessons and have always had insurance through the BKSA. A few years back I complained to the council about dogs mess and discarded barbecues on the part of the beach in question. Poole council informed me that PHC was responsible for the mess. After several approaches what did PHC do, absolutely nothing! Now when I see PHC’s involvement in the destruction of the new proposed marina halfway across the harbour from Poole Quay, it seems that the prime motivator of PHC is quite simply money and greed. I have been a member of the BKSA for many years and this is the first I have heard about this extortion from PHC, I therefore simply do not believe about the months of consultation rubbish at all. It now remains to be seen how many Kitesurfers are prepared to ignore PHC, however I for one am considering giving up using Sandbanks in the future as I do not think that PHC are acting in the interests of safety or the good of Poole Harbour, just greed! Reader Echo
  • Score: 14

9:36pm Tue 15 Apr 14

mythoughts! says...

Reader Echo wrote:
I have been Kitesurfing at Sandbanks for quite some years. I took lessons and have always had insurance through the BKSA.

A few years back I complained to the council about dogs mess and discarded barbecues on the part of the beach in question.
Poole council informed me that PHC was responsible for the mess. After several approaches what did PHC do, absolutely nothing!

Now when I see PHC’s involvement in the destruction of the new proposed marina halfway across the harbour from Poole Quay, it seems that the prime motivator of PHC is quite simply money and greed.

I have been a member of the BKSA for many years and this is the first I have heard about this extortion from PHC, I therefore simply do not believe about the months of consultation rubbish at all.

It now remains to be seen how many Kitesurfers are prepared to ignore PHC, however I for one am considering giving up using Sandbanks in the future as I do not think that PHC are acting in the interests of safety or the good of Poole Harbour, just greed!
Yeah me to. Bksa trained. Bksa insured every year for probably the last 6 or 7 years. Sailing surfing kitesurfing windsurfing in harbour for the last 30 years
I paid the studland kite permit fee of £5.00 for the last 2 years because I felt that at least this permit fee was going to the national trust.
http://www.phc.co.uk
/downloads/notices_m
ariners/2014-12-Kite
-Surfing-General-Dir
ection.pdf most of this doc is a load if old rubbish though I agree with staying out of the channel and eel grass areas
[quote][p][bold]Reader Echo[/bold] wrote: I have been Kitesurfing at Sandbanks for quite some years. I took lessons and have always had insurance through the BKSA. A few years back I complained to the council about dogs mess and discarded barbecues on the part of the beach in question. Poole council informed me that PHC was responsible for the mess. After several approaches what did PHC do, absolutely nothing! Now when I see PHC’s involvement in the destruction of the new proposed marina halfway across the harbour from Poole Quay, it seems that the prime motivator of PHC is quite simply money and greed. I have been a member of the BKSA for many years and this is the first I have heard about this extortion from PHC, I therefore simply do not believe about the months of consultation rubbish at all. It now remains to be seen how many Kitesurfers are prepared to ignore PHC, however I for one am considering giving up using Sandbanks in the future as I do not think that PHC are acting in the interests of safety or the good of Poole Harbour, just greed![/p][/quote]Yeah me to. Bksa trained. Bksa insured every year for probably the last 6 or 7 years. Sailing surfing kitesurfing windsurfing in harbour for the last 30 years I paid the studland kite permit fee of £5.00 for the last 2 years because I felt that at least this permit fee was going to the national trust. http://www.phc.co.uk /downloads/notices_m ariners/2014-12-Kite -Surfing-General-Dir ection.pdf most of this doc is a load if old rubbish though I agree with staying out of the channel and eel grass areas mythoughts!
  • Score: 7

11:08pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Chris@Bmouth says...

I just wouldnt bother paying.
I just wouldnt bother paying. Chris@Bmouth
  • Score: 7

10:40am Wed 16 Apr 14

Mike R-B says...

live-and-let-live wrote:
the british sheep will pay up as usual and next year it will go up to £25 etc etc,
just like the green bin charge which went up this year. if kite surfers have to pay, then soon it will be kayakers, and sailing boats, and snorkelers, swimmers, fishermen, kids paddling. sandcastle builders.
but keep on paying folks. you must like doing it or else you would fight back.
If it is true that the beach between high and low tide is owned by the Crown surely surfing on that bit should be free?
[quote][p][bold]live-and-let-live[/bold] wrote: the british sheep will pay up as usual and next year it will go up to £25 etc etc, just like the green bin charge which went up this year. if kite surfers have to pay, then soon it will be kayakers, and sailing boats, and snorkelers, swimmers, fishermen, kids paddling. sandcastle builders. but keep on paying folks. you must like doing it or else you would fight back.[/p][/quote]If it is true that the beach between high and low tide is owned by the Crown surely surfing on that bit should be free? Mike R-B
  • Score: 3

12:43pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

TalkToTheTrees wrote:
Do some people actually read these articles? "Poole Harbour Commissioners has introduced a kite surfing permit scheme." Where have you got the idea that the Council are charging?
Because most of the people who write this rubbish are sat at home all day in their ivory towers thinking they know everything?
[quote][p][bold]TalkToTheTrees[/bold] wrote: Do some people actually read these articles? "Poole Harbour Commissioners has introduced a kite surfing permit scheme." Where have you got the idea that the Council are charging?[/p][/quote]Because most of the people who write this rubbish are sat at home all day in their ivory towers thinking they know everything? Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 1

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