Benefits reform blamed for rise in foodbank demand as 25 tonnes of food distributed to needy households

HELPING THE HUNGRY: Debbie Bramley, manager of the Bournemouth Foodbank

PEOPLE WILL BECOME DESPERATE: Cllr Dennis Gritt

DIFFERENT SITUATION: Cllr Jane Kelly

First published in News by

TWENTY-five tonnes of food have been distributed by Bournemouth’s main foodbank to households in need since last April.

The figure has more than doubled since the year 2010-11, councillors were told.

Kinson North councillor Dennis Gritt raised the issue at a full meeting of Bournemouth council.

Cllr Jane Kelly, cabinet member for regeneration and partnership, quoted statistics from the Trussell Trust, which runs the Bournemouth Foodbank, with collection points in Charminster, Moordown and Boscombe.

They said Bournemouth Foodbank had given 25 tonnes of food so far this year, compared with 19 tonnes to 6,500 people in 2012-13. The figure in 2011-12 was 13 tonnes to 5,000 people.

The Trussell Trust says it has helped 5,757 people in Bournemouth so far this year.

Labour member Cllr Gritt asked Cllr Kelly: “Could you tell me how many food banks were needed under the Labour government, prior to this coalition government?”

Cllr Kelly said: “The situation today is different than that under the last Labour government.”

Cllr Gritt told the Daily Echo: “The generosity of people is not infinite. If it keeps going the way it’s going, people are going to become desperate because they haven’t got food.”

Debbie Bramley, who manages Bournemouth Foodbank, said it was currently helping around 200-250 people a week.

She said the benefits reforms which took effect in April 2013 had played a big part in the increase.

“It’s not people who don’t want to work. They desperately want to work and get out of the system but it just doesn’t seem to be helping those people,” she added, Many people took jobs on zero-hours contracts and found themselves claiming benefits again shortly afterwards, she added.

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2:58pm Sat 8 Mar 14

contric says...

perhaps there would be more to go round if politicians at national and local level stopped taking so much out of the pot and if gritt and kelly want to make it political perhaps gritt could ask his fellow labourite macshane why he felt the need to steal taxpayers money while people are using food banks and kelly could ask tory peter bone why he is being investigated about his mother in law,s care home fees that the taxpayer has paid whilst people are using foodbanks
perhaps there would be more to go round if politicians at national and local level stopped taking so much out of the pot and if gritt and kelly want to make it political perhaps gritt could ask his fellow labourite macshane why he felt the need to steal taxpayers money while people are using food banks and kelly could ask tory peter bone why he is being investigated about his mother in law,s care home fees that the taxpayer has paid whilst people are using foodbanks contric
  • Score: 27

3:33pm Sat 8 Mar 14

hamworthygirl says...

I watched a programme on this subject the other night and it came as no surprise to see working families having to apply for food. They are caught in the middle of being on low wages and out going getting more expensive while wages remain the same.
I watched a programme on this subject the other night and it came as no surprise to see working families having to apply for food. They are caught in the middle of being on low wages and out going getting more expensive while wages remain the same. hamworthygirl
  • Score: 57

3:59pm Sat 8 Mar 14

High Treason says...

But they still have their cars, mobile phones, Sky subscription etc. Yes to food banks when people really need help but most have got their priorities wrong.
But they still have their cars, mobile phones, Sky subscription etc. Yes to food banks when people really need help but most have got their priorities wrong. High Treason
  • Score: -45

4:52pm Sat 8 Mar 14

we-shall-see says...

High Treason wrote:
But they still have their cars, mobile phones, Sky subscription etc. Yes to food banks when people really need help but most have got their priorities wrong.
Working people may need a car to get to their job. Mobile phone contracts can be as cheap as £10 per month - much less than a standard land line telephone and since the job centre expect people to be able to have contact by phone for job interviews etc - then for most people whether working or not, having a mobile is essential.

As someone who has previously helped out in a food bank, believe me it is not just a case of walking in and taking a bag full of groceries. You have to get a referral from a GP, social worker or other agency - and even then you can only have three visits a year, so it is hardly something that is handed out willy-nilly.

Even working people are living from hand to mouth - and often more so because unlike those on full benefits, they have to find money for rent, travel to work etc.

Many people have told us there is no dignity in having to go cap-in-hand to a food bank when they are absolutely desperate - so I would advise you to get down off your ivory tower and pop along to one to see how things work and how desperate some people really are. It really will open your eyes believe me .....
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: But they still have their cars, mobile phones, Sky subscription etc. Yes to food banks when people really need help but most have got their priorities wrong.[/p][/quote]Working people may need a car to get to their job. Mobile phone contracts can be as cheap as £10 per month - much less than a standard land line telephone and since the job centre expect people to be able to have contact by phone for job interviews etc - then for most people whether working or not, having a mobile is essential. As someone who has previously helped out in a food bank, believe me it is not just a case of walking in and taking a bag full of groceries. You have to get a referral from a GP, social worker or other agency - and even then you can only have three visits a year, so it is hardly something that is handed out willy-nilly. Even working people are living from hand to mouth - and often more so because unlike those on full benefits, they have to find money for rent, travel to work etc. Many people have told us there is no dignity in having to go cap-in-hand to a food bank when they are absolutely desperate - so I would advise you to get down off your ivory tower and pop along to one to see how things work and how desperate some people really are. It really will open your eyes believe me ..... we-shall-see
  • Score: 50

5:19pm Sat 8 Mar 14

seaviews says...

A way of reducing the requirement for food banks may be to pay benefits as shop credits which can be used for food alone. This would help people who have difficulties managing their money.
A way of reducing the requirement for food banks may be to pay benefits as shop credits which can be used for food alone. This would help people who have difficulties managing their money. seaviews
  • Score: -15

5:20pm Sat 8 Mar 14

lilacfloyd says...

High Treason wrote:
But they still have their cars, mobile phones, Sky subscription etc. Yes to food banks when people really need help but most have got their priorities wrong.
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to mention mobile phones, Sky TV etc.
Every time there is an article about food banks it's always the same.

P.S You forgot to mention alcohol and cigarettes. ;)
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: But they still have their cars, mobile phones, Sky subscription etc. Yes to food banks when people really need help but most have got their priorities wrong.[/p][/quote]I was wondering how long it would take for someone to mention mobile phones, Sky TV etc. Every time there is an article about food banks it's always the same. P.S You forgot to mention alcohol and cigarettes. ;) lilacfloyd
  • Score: 14

5:41pm Sat 8 Mar 14

goatty says...

we-shall-see wrote:
High Treason wrote:
But they still have their cars, mobile phones, Sky subscription etc. Yes to food banks when people really need help but most have got their priorities wrong.
Working people may need a car to get to their job. Mobile phone contracts can be as cheap as £10 per month - much less than a standard land line telephone and since the job centre expect people to be able to have contact by phone for job interviews etc - then for most people whether working or not, having a mobile is essential.

As someone who has previously helped out in a food bank, believe me it is not just a case of walking in and taking a bag full of groceries. You have to get a referral from a GP, social worker or other agency - and even then you can only have three visits a year, so it is hardly something that is handed out willy-nilly.

Even working people are living from hand to mouth - and often more so because unlike those on full benefits, they have to find money for rent, travel to work etc.

Many people have told us there is no dignity in having to go cap-in-hand to a food bank when they are absolutely desperate - so I would advise you to get down off your ivory tower and pop along to one to see how things work and how desperate some people really are. It really will open your eyes believe me .....
I am amazed that you have to go through so many hoops just to get food!!

It's not right in this day and age when there is so much food wastage

I thank you personally for being very charitable and I wish there afe more people like you
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: But they still have their cars, mobile phones, Sky subscription etc. Yes to food banks when people really need help but most have got their priorities wrong.[/p][/quote]Working people may need a car to get to their job. Mobile phone contracts can be as cheap as £10 per month - much less than a standard land line telephone and since the job centre expect people to be able to have contact by phone for job interviews etc - then for most people whether working or not, having a mobile is essential. As someone who has previously helped out in a food bank, believe me it is not just a case of walking in and taking a bag full of groceries. You have to get a referral from a GP, social worker or other agency - and even then you can only have three visits a year, so it is hardly something that is handed out willy-nilly. Even working people are living from hand to mouth - and often more so because unlike those on full benefits, they have to find money for rent, travel to work etc. Many people have told us there is no dignity in having to go cap-in-hand to a food bank when they are absolutely desperate - so I would advise you to get down off your ivory tower and pop along to one to see how things work and how desperate some people really are. It really will open your eyes believe me .....[/p][/quote]I am amazed that you have to go through so many hoops just to get food!! It's not right in this day and age when there is so much food wastage I thank you personally for being very charitable and I wish there afe more people like you goatty
  • Score: 8

7:56pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Huey says...

Replace benefits with tinned food.
It will reduce the bill to taxpayers and then everyone knows that cash isn't wasted, plus hangers in will soon realise it is to stop you starving, and not a way of life or means of income.
Replace benefits with tinned food. It will reduce the bill to taxpayers and then everyone knows that cash isn't wasted, plus hangers in will soon realise it is to stop you starving, and not a way of life or means of income. Huey
  • Score: -3

9:10pm Sat 8 Mar 14

apm1954 says...

good old clegg and cameron they really dont have a clue i have been a liberal all my life never again, they seem to want to blame the less well off for all the problems of this nation, they keep telling us about the debt they took on from labour did they not leave a debt when they left power think so.
good old clegg and cameron they really dont have a clue i have been a liberal all my life never again, they seem to want to blame the less well off for all the problems of this nation, they keep telling us about the debt they took on from labour did they not leave a debt when they left power think so. apm1954
  • Score: 5

1:51am Sun 9 Mar 14

hamworthygirl says...

we-shall-see wrote:
High Treason wrote:
But they still have their cars, mobile phones, Sky subscription etc. Yes to food banks when people really need help but most have got their priorities wrong.
Working people may need a car to get to their job. Mobile phone contracts can be as cheap as £10 per month - much less than a standard land line telephone and since the job centre expect people to be able to have contact by phone for job interviews etc - then for most people whether working or not, having a mobile is essential.

As someone who has previously helped out in a food bank, believe me it is not just a case of walking in and taking a bag full of groceries. You have to get a referral from a GP, social worker or other agency - and even then you can only have three visits a year, so it is hardly something that is handed out willy-nilly.

Even working people are living from hand to mouth - and often more so because unlike those on full benefits, they have to find money for rent, travel to work etc.

Many people have told us there is no dignity in having to go cap-in-hand to a food bank when they are absolutely desperate - so I would advise you to get down off your ivory tower and pop along to one to see how things work and how desperate some people really are. It really will open your eyes believe me .....
Well said, the couple featured in the programme did 80 work between them in shifts as they couldn't afford child care.. They were an ordinary couple who s bills had risen so much they were higher than the wages coming in. Not all the people at food banks are bad at managing money or have many luxuries,.
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: But they still have their cars, mobile phones, Sky subscription etc. Yes to food banks when people really need help but most have got their priorities wrong.[/p][/quote]Working people may need a car to get to their job. Mobile phone contracts can be as cheap as £10 per month - much less than a standard land line telephone and since the job centre expect people to be able to have contact by phone for job interviews etc - then for most people whether working or not, having a mobile is essential. As someone who has previously helped out in a food bank, believe me it is not just a case of walking in and taking a bag full of groceries. You have to get a referral from a GP, social worker or other agency - and even then you can only have three visits a year, so it is hardly something that is handed out willy-nilly. Even working people are living from hand to mouth - and often more so because unlike those on full benefits, they have to find money for rent, travel to work etc. Many people have told us there is no dignity in having to go cap-in-hand to a food bank when they are absolutely desperate - so I would advise you to get down off your ivory tower and pop along to one to see how things work and how desperate some people really are. It really will open your eyes believe me .....[/p][/quote]Well said, the couple featured in the programme did 80 work between them in shifts as they couldn't afford child care.. They were an ordinary couple who s bills had risen so much they were higher than the wages coming in. Not all the people at food banks are bad at managing money or have many luxuries,. hamworthygirl
  • Score: 6

8:34am Sun 9 Mar 14

djd says...

Most of the people who use the Foodbank have problems with their benefits. There are unacceptable delays in processing claims and clients are unable to speak face to face to benefits staff. They have to phone, speak to one person today who says they have the client's paperwork and it's all in hand. Their benefits are not sorted and when they phone again, they are told the advisor doesn't know anything about their claim and can't find their paperwork.
When you make the initial benefit claim you are go ken an 0800 free phone number, any subsequent calls to sort it are on 0845 or 0844 numbers that cost the client money they don't have or could be better used on buying food.
Don't knock these people until you have met them.
Yes, there will always be scroungers, but the majority of people who use foodbanks do so through no fault on their own.
It's certainly opened my eyes.
Most of the people who use the Foodbank have problems with their benefits. There are unacceptable delays in processing claims and clients are unable to speak face to face to benefits staff. They have to phone, speak to one person today who says they have the client's paperwork and it's all in hand. Their benefits are not sorted and when they phone again, they are told the advisor doesn't know anything about their claim and can't find their paperwork. When you make the initial benefit claim you are go ken an 0800 free phone number, any subsequent calls to sort it are on 0845 or 0844 numbers that cost the client money they don't have or could be better used on buying food. Don't knock these people until you have met them. Yes, there will always be scroungers, but the majority of people who use foodbanks do so through no fault on their own. It's certainly opened my eyes. djd
  • Score: 5

10:03am Sun 9 Mar 14

trolley says...

given the popularity of the minimum wage and zero hour contracts , both used by companies who could well afford paying their staff a decent working wage but employee rights are a thing of the past, this will only get worse.
when will people wake up to this?
try getting a full time decent paying job, its nigh on impossible.
given the popularity of the minimum wage and zero hour contracts , both used by companies who could well afford paying their staff a decent working wage but employee rights are a thing of the past, this will only get worse. when will people wake up to this? try getting a full time decent paying job, its nigh on impossible. trolley
  • Score: 9

10:36am Sun 9 Mar 14

matt68 says...

i agree that homeless people need food banks and soup kitchens but i am afraid a lot of people these days see these food banks as another way of getting something for free and before people start moaning at me i have struggled with a young family to get by on a small income food in markets or lidl etc is cheap you can make casseroles soups pasta etc very cheap some people need educating on finances and how to cook as potatoes are cheap and wholesome but a lot of these people just want it for free and can not be bothered to cook also a lot of these banks have food which is pretty poor nutrition wise we need to have supermarkets giving away the thousands of tonnes of fresh veg and fruit they throw away every year
i agree that homeless people need food banks and soup kitchens but i am afraid a lot of people these days see these food banks as another way of getting something for free and before people start moaning at me i have struggled with a young family to get by on a small income food in markets or lidl etc is cheap you can make casseroles soups pasta etc very cheap some people need educating on finances and how to cook as potatoes are cheap and wholesome but a lot of these people just want it for free and can not be bothered to cook also a lot of these banks have food which is pretty poor nutrition wise we need to have supermarkets giving away the thousands of tonnes of fresh veg and fruit they throw away every year matt68
  • Score: -4

12:06pm Sun 9 Mar 14

rozmister says...

Huey wrote:
Replace benefits with tinned food.
It will reduce the bill to taxpayers and then everyone knows that cash isn't wasted, plus hangers in will soon realise it is to stop you starving, and not a way of life or means of income.
And how would people pay for their gas, electric, TV license, council tax, kid's school uniform, travel, household items that break and need replacing, etc?

Or are these all luxuries that people who have fallen on hard times don't deserve?

Besides the majority of benefit claimants are in work anyway, they receive tax credits to top up their wages to a livable amount. Why should these people be punished?!?!
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Replace benefits with tinned food. It will reduce the bill to taxpayers and then everyone knows that cash isn't wasted, plus hangers in will soon realise it is to stop you starving, and not a way of life or means of income.[/p][/quote]And how would people pay for their gas, electric, TV license, council tax, kid's school uniform, travel, household items that break and need replacing, etc? Or are these all luxuries that people who have fallen on hard times don't deserve? Besides the majority of benefit claimants are in work anyway, they receive tax credits to top up their wages to a livable amount. Why should these people be punished?!?! rozmister
  • Score: 7

12:36pm Sun 9 Mar 14

stevobath says...

rozmister wrote:
Huey wrote:
Replace benefits with tinned food.
It will reduce the bill to taxpayers and then everyone knows that cash isn't wasted, plus hangers in will soon realise it is to stop you starving, and not a way of life or means of income.
And how would people pay for their gas, electric, TV license, council tax, kid's school uniform, travel, household items that break and need replacing, etc?

Or are these all luxuries that people who have fallen on hard times don't deserve?

Besides the majority of benefit claimants are in work anyway, they receive tax credits to top up their wages to a livable amount. Why should these people be punished?!?!
You've got it wrong rozmister.

The poor are undeserving. They shouldn't be allowed things like TV, internet for their kids etc.

It's nice to see that there are now a few people who are starting to realise the lies & mis information this Government has been peddling, especially about benefits.

The idiots who think you can live week in, week out on Food Bank freebies need to either wake up or stop being obtuse.
YOU CAN ONLY GET 3 FOOD PARCELS IN A 6 MONTH PERIOD. AT SOME FOODBANKS, THAT GOES DOWN TO 3 IN A !" MONTH PERIOD.
Yes, there are a few who take advantage, but look at the politicians & their LEGALISED THEFT & it's insignificant.
The way these reforms have been handled is pathetic. IDS is morally bankrupt & inept. He's consistently used figures that are wrong & refuses to even have a debate about the problems his ideas have caused so many people. He even has an odious female sidekick. Mc Vey. I doubt she'll get a warm welcome in the poorest parts of Merseyside?
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Replace benefits with tinned food. It will reduce the bill to taxpayers and then everyone knows that cash isn't wasted, plus hangers in will soon realise it is to stop you starving, and not a way of life or means of income.[/p][/quote]And how would people pay for their gas, electric, TV license, council tax, kid's school uniform, travel, household items that break and need replacing, etc? Or are these all luxuries that people who have fallen on hard times don't deserve? Besides the majority of benefit claimants are in work anyway, they receive tax credits to top up their wages to a livable amount. Why should these people be punished?!?![/p][/quote]You've got it wrong rozmister. The poor are undeserving. They shouldn't be allowed things like TV, internet for their kids etc. It's nice to see that there are now a few people who are starting to realise the lies & mis information this Government has been peddling, especially about benefits. The idiots who think you can live week in, week out on Food Bank freebies need to either wake up or stop being obtuse. YOU CAN ONLY GET 3 FOOD PARCELS IN A 6 MONTH PERIOD. AT SOME FOODBANKS, THAT GOES DOWN TO 3 IN A !" MONTH PERIOD. Yes, there are a few who take advantage, but look at the politicians & their LEGALISED THEFT & it's insignificant. The way these reforms have been handled is pathetic. IDS is morally bankrupt & inept. He's consistently used figures that are wrong & refuses to even have a debate about the problems his ideas have caused so many people. He even has an odious female sidekick. Mc Vey. I doubt she'll get a warm welcome in the poorest parts of Merseyside? stevobath
  • Score: 21

1:23pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Hessenford says...

Debbie Bramley, who manages Bournemouth Foodbank, said it was currently helping around 200-250 people a week.
.
But are all these people really affected by the benefit changes, I suspect not, if they are then welcome to the real world of hardship that the ordinary worker has to suffer.
Debbie Bramley, who manages Bournemouth Foodbank, said it was currently helping around 200-250 people a week. . But are all these people really affected by the benefit changes, I suspect not, if they are then welcome to the real world of hardship that the ordinary worker has to suffer. Hessenford
  • Score: -46

2:58pm Sun 9 Mar 14

MotorbikeSam says...

I think there should be a few rules because I do not believe these people are staving because of hardship.....
Rule 1 no smokers allowed
rule 2 no drinkers allowed
rule 3 if you own a TV or a laptop you will not be considered
rule 4 if you own a car don't even think about it !!
Rule 5 if you are on benefits you cant apply as you have had your allowance
now who does that leave hardworking people who can not make ends meet.
I think there should be a few rules because I do not believe these people are staving because of hardship..... Rule 1 no smokers allowed rule 2 no drinkers allowed rule 3 if you own a TV or a laptop you will not be considered rule 4 if you own a car don't even think about it !! Rule 5 if you are on benefits you cant apply as you have had your allowance now who does that leave hardworking people who can not make ends meet. MotorbikeSam
  • Score: -31

3:10pm Sun 9 Mar 14

lilacfloyd says...

MotorbikeSam wrote:
I think there should be a few rules because I do not believe these people are staving because of hardship.....
Rule 1 no smokers allowed
rule 2 no drinkers allowed
rule 3 if you own a TV or a laptop you will not be considered
rule 4 if you own a car don't even think about it !!
Rule 5 if you are on benefits you cant apply as you have had your allowance
now who does that leave hardworking people who can not make ends meet.
You do realise you have said that out loud.
[quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: I think there should be a few rules because I do not believe these people are staving because of hardship..... Rule 1 no smokers allowed rule 2 no drinkers allowed rule 3 if you own a TV or a laptop you will not be considered rule 4 if you own a car don't even think about it !! Rule 5 if you are on benefits you cant apply as you have had your allowance now who does that leave hardworking people who can not make ends meet.[/p][/quote]You do realise you have said that out loud. lilacfloyd
  • Score: 6

3:24pm Sun 9 Mar 14

elite50 says...

Maybe some of the real moaners should take a look at the Monkey World site.
This would show them how pathetic people CAN be.
Maybe some of the real moaners should take a look at the Monkey World site. This would show them how pathetic people CAN be. elite50
  • Score: 1

8:04pm Sun 9 Mar 14

MotorbikeSam says...

lilacfloyd wrote:
MotorbikeSam wrote:
I think there should be a few rules because I do not believe these people are staving because of hardship.....
Rule 1 no smokers allowed
rule 2 no drinkers allowed
rule 3 if you own a TV or a laptop you will not be considered
rule 4 if you own a car don't even think about it !!
Rule 5 if you are on benefits you cant apply as you have had your allowance
now who does that leave hardworking people who can not make ends meet.
You do realise you have said that out loud.
the louder it is said the better.....scrounger
s one and all..
[quote][p][bold]lilacfloyd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: I think there should be a few rules because I do not believe these people are staving because of hardship..... Rule 1 no smokers allowed rule 2 no drinkers allowed rule 3 if you own a TV or a laptop you will not be considered rule 4 if you own a car don't even think about it !! Rule 5 if you are on benefits you cant apply as you have had your allowance now who does that leave hardworking people who can not make ends meet.[/p][/quote]You do realise you have said that out loud.[/p][/quote]the louder it is said the better.....scrounger s one and all.. MotorbikeSam
  • Score: -30

6:09am Mon 10 Mar 14

ShuttleX says...

matt68 wrote:
i agree that homeless people need food banks and soup kitchens but i am afraid a lot of people these days see these food banks as another way of getting something for free and before people start moaning at me i have struggled with a young family to get by on a small income food in markets or lidl etc is cheap you can make casseroles soups pasta etc very cheap some people need educating on finances and how to cook as potatoes are cheap and wholesome but a lot of these people just want it for free and can not be bothered to cook also a lot of these banks have food which is pretty poor nutrition wise we need to have supermarkets giving away the thousands of tonnes of fresh veg and fruit they throw away every year
I don't know why you have got 4 thumbs down matt68. I think you raise some very interesting points. It's not as simple as you would like, but your idea of education on food etc would help. Unfortunately your idea of the supermarkets giving away the food won't work. They are so worried about being sued if somebody ended up with an upset stomach, they would rather bin the food then face that possibility. Sign of the times I'm afraid. I do have to disagree with you over your statement that " a lot of these people just want it for free and can't be bothered to cook". How many pay pays can you miss before you are at the food bank to feed your family? It's ok saying people should save for rainy days, but as it's been pouring since 2008, I would think most peoples savings have taken quite a hit. With rents, electric, water gas etc all going up, incomes gone down in real terms, something has to give.
[quote][p][bold]matt68[/bold] wrote: i agree that homeless people need food banks and soup kitchens but i am afraid a lot of people these days see these food banks as another way of getting something for free and before people start moaning at me i have struggled with a young family to get by on a small income food in markets or lidl etc is cheap you can make casseroles soups pasta etc very cheap some people need educating on finances and how to cook as potatoes are cheap and wholesome but a lot of these people just want it for free and can not be bothered to cook also a lot of these banks have food which is pretty poor nutrition wise we need to have supermarkets giving away the thousands of tonnes of fresh veg and fruit they throw away every year[/p][/quote]I don't know why you have got 4 thumbs down matt68. I think you raise some very interesting points. It's not as simple as you would like, but your idea of education on food etc would help. Unfortunately your idea of the supermarkets giving away the food won't work. They are so worried about being sued if somebody ended up with an upset stomach, they would rather bin the food then face that possibility. Sign of the times I'm afraid. I do have to disagree with you over your statement that " a lot of these people just want it for free and can't be bothered to cook". How many pay pays can you miss before you are at the food bank to feed your family? It's ok saying people should save for rainy days, but as it's been pouring since 2008, I would think most peoples savings have taken quite a hit. With rents, electric, water gas etc all going up, incomes gone down in real terms, something has to give. ShuttleX
  • Score: 2

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