Flood-hit residents blast Christchurch council and MP Chris Chope over "total lack of support"

Bournemouth Echo: ROW: Flats at Conifer Close in Christchurch ROW: Flats at Conifer Close in Christchurch

ANGRY residents in a flood-hit flat block have blasted a “total lack of support” from Christchurch council and their MP, saying they have been forced to buy their own sandbags.

Residents in Conifer Close – some of whom were evacuated on Christmas Day – say they are the “forgotten corner” of Christchurch and living in fear of further flooding.

Residents say they requested sandbags from the council but were told they would have to purchase Floodsacks at £30 for a pack of four.

Today, as the Government insisted councils shouldn't charge for sandbags and the cost would be met centrally, Christchurch council clarified their position saying they don’t charge for them in an emergency and if the Environment Agency put out a red warning, they will provide them free of charge.

A spokesperson said at the moment people are concerned and are requesting them just in case, and in instance they charge £30 for a flood pack.

Residents at Conifer Close have suffered flooding issues since Christmas Day.

And yesterday, while PM David Cameron promised that “money is no object” when it comes to helping flood victims, Conifer Close residents told the Daily Echo they have had to buy their own sandbags and plastic sheeting.

They have also asked for help from their MP Chris Chope, but say he has not accepted their invitations to visit them.

Steve Richards, whose dad Ken has been living with him since Christmas, said they requested sandbags from Christchurch council last week but were told they would have to purchase them at £30 for a pack of four.

“My brother bought 50 at an incredibly high cost but 50 sandbags goes nowhere,” he said.

“We feel so helpless, pleading for help and no-one’s giving it, yet you switch on the television and the Prime Minister is pledging that no-one will be left vulnerable and money’s no object.”

Paul Richards, a resident at the Stourbanks flats, was told it was not Christchurch council policy to issue sandbags or plastic sheeting.

He said: “We’ve tried repeatedly over the past seven weeks to get some help, we’re in a desperate position now and we need the most basic help. It’s like living in the Lost World.”

The Stourbanks Residents’ Association has spent £750 on sandbags but residents are now just waiting to see whether this will be enough.

Judy Betteridge, secretary of the association, has written to the Prime Minister to tell him of their frustrations. She has also twice invited their MP Mr Chope to visit them.

“I know we’re probably very small fry compared to what’s going on in the country but nevertheless these are our homes,” she said.

“We feel very much we are on our own down here.”

And Colin West, treasurer of the association, said: “We’ve been pushed from pillar to post. Everybody here is over 75 – I’m nearly 90 – and yet we’ve had very little support. People are very frustrated.”

Attempts were made to contact Mr Chope but he was unavailable for comment.

Council response

Neil Farmer, Strategic Director at Christchurch Borough Council: “Local Christchurch councillors and council officers have been working with residents in Conifer Close to keep them informed of possible flooding incidents.

"Thankfully the levels in the River Stour have reduced significantly in recent days.

"The council is in regular contact with the Environment Agency to monitor river levels so adequate warning can be given to residents if river levels are predicted to rise towards the levels experienced on Christmas Day.

"If necessary, temporary accommodation will be provided for residents by the council if the conditions worsen and further flooding of the properties is predicted.

"The council will liaise with the management company for the flats and with the Environment Agency to explore a flood alleviation scheme that would protect the properties from further flooding.”

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9:52am Thu 13 Feb 14

twynham says...

If I were to be flooded the last thing I would want is a visit from Chope.
If I were to be flooded the last thing I would want is a visit from Chope. twynham

10:14am Thu 13 Feb 14

Jetwasher says...

MP have no time for people in trouble, but come voting time they will be knocking on your door...
MP have no time for people in trouble, but come voting time they will be knocking on your door... Jetwasher

10:21am Thu 13 Feb 14

richardcompton3 says...

You know what to do next election. Kick the lot out!
You know what to do next election. Kick the lot out! richardcompton3

10:26am Thu 13 Feb 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

I'm sure Chope was not the MP when some developer was allowed to build the flats too low on the floodplain. The developer should have built the flats a metre or so higher in the first place. The best thing in a situation like this is to stop whinging and blaming, and get the residents together and pay for a local firm with a digger to create a flood bank around the grounds of the property, cover it in grass making sure the top is at least a metre above the highest flood level. Install flap valves to drain surface water from inside the defence. I'm not a Tory supporter or a planner designer, just a realist.
I'm sure Chope was not the MP when some developer was allowed to build the flats too low on the floodplain. The developer should have built the flats a metre or so higher in the first place. The best thing in a situation like this is to stop whinging and blaming, and get the residents together and pay for a local firm with a digger to create a flood bank around the grounds of the property, cover it in grass making sure the top is at least a metre above the highest flood level. Install flap valves to drain surface water from inside the defence. I'm not a Tory supporter or a planner designer, just a realist. Telscombe Cliffy

10:29am Thu 13 Feb 14

sea poole says...

and the response from MP Choke is...?
and the response from MP Choke is...? sea poole

10:35am Thu 13 Feb 14

muscliffman says...

As an important aside, are the Authorities keeping an extra close eye on the sandy beaches around here at the moment?

Because all our seaside sand has suddenly become a very saleable commodity and I rather suspect a few dodgy trucks may have already opportunistically visited the seafront during the middle of the night.
As an important aside, are the Authorities keeping an extra close eye on the sandy beaches around here at the moment? Because all our seaside sand has suddenly become a very saleable commodity and I rather suspect a few dodgy trucks may have already opportunistically visited the seafront during the middle of the night. muscliffman

10:44am Thu 13 Feb 14

rayc says...

The residents of Christchurch should have realised by now that the response to floods is driven by the media. without the media attention on the Somerset Levels or Thames Valley the Council's would not have been forced into calling an Emergency so that troops and multi agency assistance would be provided.
The question that you need to ask is would you want Neil Farmer, Strategic Director at Christchurch Borough Council or Mr Chope in the trenches with you when the going got tough.
The residents of Christchurch should have realised by now that the response to floods is driven by the media. without the media attention on the Somerset Levels or Thames Valley the Council's would not have been forced into calling an Emergency so that troops and multi agency assistance would be provided. The question that you need to ask is would you want Neil Farmer, Strategic Director at Christchurch Borough Council or Mr Chope in the trenches with you when the going got tough. rayc

11:17am Thu 13 Feb 14

Buddles says...

Jetwasher wrote:
MP have no time for people in trouble, but come voting time they will be knocking on your door...
Indeed but over the years they don't even bother with door-to-door canvassing any more. Some can't even be bothered to knock up a leaflet to push through the letterbox.
[quote][p][bold]Jetwasher[/bold] wrote: MP have no time for people in trouble, but come voting time they will be knocking on your door...[/p][/quote]Indeed but over the years they don't even bother with door-to-door canvassing any more. Some can't even be bothered to knock up a leaflet to push through the letterbox. Buddles

11:18am Thu 13 Feb 14

onetimeapathetic says...

rayc wrote:
The residents of Christchurch should have realised by now that the response to floods is driven by the media. without the media attention on the Somerset Levels or Thames Valley the Council's would not have been forced into calling an Emergency so that troops and multi agency assistance would be provided.
The question that you need to ask is would you want Neil Farmer, Strategic Director at Christchurch Borough Council or Mr Chope in the trenches with you when the going got tough.
No the response is not driven by the media. Somerset levels coverage was fairly minimal compared with the Tory heartlands of the Thames Valley - this is when all of a sudden Cameron intervenes and says that he will spare no expense to help them!!!!
[quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: The residents of Christchurch should have realised by now that the response to floods is driven by the media. without the media attention on the Somerset Levels or Thames Valley the Council's would not have been forced into calling an Emergency so that troops and multi agency assistance would be provided. The question that you need to ask is would you want Neil Farmer, Strategic Director at Christchurch Borough Council or Mr Chope in the trenches with you when the going got tough.[/p][/quote]No the response is not driven by the media. Somerset levels coverage was fairly minimal compared with the Tory heartlands of the Thames Valley - this is when all of a sudden Cameron intervenes and says that he will spare no expense to help them!!!! onetimeapathetic

11:54am Thu 13 Feb 14

live-and-let-live says...

could everyone please stop moaning. just buy the sandbags and get on with your lives.
could everyone please stop moaning. just buy the sandbags and get on with your lives. live-and-let-live

11:56am Thu 13 Feb 14

johnny neptune says...

there's an old chinese proverb

tories voters who vote for cuts in public and local services really shouldn't squeal like stuck pigs when those cut public and local services means there isn't help available for them when they need it.

boo hoo. get your insurance to sort it out.

and expecting anything, ever, from chris chope is a bit daft. he'll be too busy getting his wife, that you're paying £49000 a year, to tidy his paperclips.
there's an old chinese proverb tories voters who vote for cuts in public and local services really shouldn't squeal like stuck pigs when those cut public and local services means there isn't help available for them when they need it. boo hoo. get your insurance to sort it out. and expecting anything, ever, from chris chope is a bit daft. he'll be too busy getting his wife, that you're paying £49000 a year, to tidy his paperclips. johnny neptune

12:01pm Thu 13 Feb 14

RM says...

Personally, I'd buy one lot of sandbags & ask for a receipt, then contact Sky News & tell them how CCC is charging for them & that you've contacted your MP but got no response. Send a video as well. Five minutes on Sky & you'll be stampeded by both CCC & your MP, all tongues hanging out to see how they can help (actually, to avoid getting nationwide bad publicity - but do you care what the reason is?).
Personally, I'd buy one lot of sandbags & ask for a receipt, then contact Sky News & tell them how CCC is charging for them & that you've contacted your MP but got no response. Send a video as well. Five minutes on Sky & you'll be stampeded by both CCC & your MP, all tongues hanging out to see how they can help (actually, to avoid getting nationwide bad publicity - but do you care what the reason is?). RM

12:04pm Thu 13 Feb 14

saynomore says...

Chope is just interested what perks he can get out of his job not what he can put into it,wise up Christchurch voters.
Chope is just interested what perks he can get out of his job not what he can put into it,wise up Christchurch voters. saynomore

12:14pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Far Corfe says...

live-and-let-live wrote:
could everyone please stop moaning. just buy the sandbags and get on with your lives.
Well said, i dont pay my council tax to buy your sand bags. Are you insured? Contact your insurer they should pay, it may be a lot cheaper in the long run.
[quote][p][bold]live-and-let-live[/bold] wrote: could everyone please stop moaning. just buy the sandbags and get on with your lives.[/p][/quote]Well said, i dont pay my council tax to buy your sand bags. Are you insured? Contact your insurer they should pay, it may be a lot cheaper in the long run. Far Corfe

12:18pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Bob49 says...

RM wrote:
Personally, I'd buy one lot of sandbags & ask for a receipt, then contact Sky News & tell them how CCC is charging for them & that you've contacted your MP but got no response. Send a video as well. Five minutes on Sky & you'll be stampeded by both CCC & your MP, all tongues hanging out to see how they can help (actually, to avoid getting nationwide bad publicity - but do you care what the reason is?).
if it's sky news they will probably have you down as Christchurch in NZ suffering from burst water mains due to the drought - mind you they will have some bloke with unrealistically dyed hair to tell you about it

as to Chope I would suggest you request him to send a few van loads of his expense cliam forms to mop up the water - as curiously he always asks for a receipt for whatever he pays for in a local pub or restaurant
[quote][p][bold]RM[/bold] wrote: Personally, I'd buy one lot of sandbags & ask for a receipt, then contact Sky News & tell them how CCC is charging for them & that you've contacted your MP but got no response. Send a video as well. Five minutes on Sky & you'll be stampeded by both CCC & your MP, all tongues hanging out to see how they can help (actually, to avoid getting nationwide bad publicity - but do you care what the reason is?).[/p][/quote]if it's sky news they will probably have you down as Christchurch in NZ suffering from burst water mains due to the drought - mind you they will have some bloke with unrealistically dyed hair to tell you about it as to Chope I would suggest you request him to send a few van loads of his expense cliam forms to mop up the water - as curiously he always asks for a receipt for whatever he pays for in a local pub or restaurant Bob49

12:18pm Thu 13 Feb 14

uberbloke says...

don't whinge here...

www.writetothem.com
don't whinge here... www.writetothem.com uberbloke

12:34pm Thu 13 Feb 14

joncon says...

At least I can be secure in the knowledge that if we ever have severe flooding in Poole, Robert Syms MP will bend over backwards to help his constituents

Not.
At least I can be secure in the knowledge that if we ever have severe flooding in Poole, Robert Syms MP will bend over backwards to help his constituents Not. joncon

12:53pm Thu 13 Feb 14

muscliffman says...

A Government source has just confirmed on Sky News that NO Council in a flooding area should be charging for sandbags and that they would take a very dim view of any Council attempting to extort money from the public in this manner.

If Christchurch Council have been charging residents for sandbags I suggest people formally advise the Council Leader, their MP and the Police - they may care to also mention those protected Christchurch trees while they are doing it!
A Government source has just confirmed on Sky News that NO Council in a flooding area should be charging for sandbags and that they would take a very dim view of any Council attempting to extort money from the public in this manner. If Christchurch Council have been charging residents for sandbags I suggest people formally advise the Council Leader, their MP and the Police - they may care to also mention those protected Christchurch trees while they are doing it! muscliffman

12:57pm Thu 13 Feb 14

chrisii1991 says...

even now still squeezing people dry
even now still squeezing people dry chrisii1991

1:00pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Bob49 says...

appears you can get 10 hessian sandbags for £6.99 (post free) on ebay

I have to wonder sometimes where the local council sources it's stuff from, as they all seem to charge exhorbitant prices for virtually everything they do

....................
........ as does dear old 'stuffin his' Chopes
appears you can get 10 hessian sandbags for £6.99 (post free) on ebay I have to wonder sometimes where the local council sources it's stuff from, as they all seem to charge exhorbitant prices for virtually everything they do .................... ........ as does dear old 'stuffin his' Chopes Bob49

1:18pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Niki1 says...

I have just seen on BBC news that David Cameron is telling councils that they are NOT to charge for sandbags. Lets see if Christchurch Council will give the people who have already paid for them a refund!!!!!!!!!
I have just seen on BBC news that David Cameron is telling councils that they are NOT to charge for sandbags. Lets see if Christchurch Council will give the people who have already paid for them a refund!!!!!!!!! Niki1

1:19pm Thu 13 Feb 14

live-and-let-live says...

B&Q sell sand.
B&Q sell sand. live-and-let-live

1:23pm Thu 13 Feb 14

speedy231278 says...

I don't see why the council wouldn't have a very large stock of sandbags for such an issue? A lot of the area is low lying, by rivers and the sea. Flooding is an occupational hazard, and as the council doesn't seem to spend much/any money on drainage, it is hardly unexpected that flooding should occur from time to time, 'unprecedented' rain levels or not. at £7.50 a sandbag (presumably sand is extra and people would be fined for taking it from the beach) they are blatantly trying to profit from a problem that they have helped make worse. That's Tories for you!
I don't see why the council wouldn't have a very large stock of sandbags for such an issue? A lot of the area is low lying, by rivers and the sea. Flooding is an occupational hazard, and as the council doesn't seem to spend much/any money on drainage, it is hardly unexpected that flooding should occur from time to time, 'unprecedented' rain levels or not. at £7.50 a sandbag (presumably sand is extra and people would be fined for taking it from the beach) they are blatantly trying to profit from a problem that they have helped make worse. That's Tories for you! speedy231278

1:46pm Thu 13 Feb 14

the_voice_of_reason says...

30 bloody quid for 4 sand bags? I'd like to give the person who came up with that a slap! Even extortionate b&q charge £1.30 each for 10 plastic bags of sand!
30 bloody quid for 4 sand bags? I'd like to give the person who came up with that a slap! Even extortionate b&q charge £1.30 each for 10 plastic bags of sand! the_voice_of_reason

1:47pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Bob49 says...

"I don't see why the council wouldn't have a very large stock of sandbags for such an issue?"

issue ?

stop trying to sanitise the situation

it is a problem, as it ever was
"I don't see why the council wouldn't have a very large stock of sandbags for such an issue?" issue ? stop trying to sanitise the situation it is a problem, as it ever was Bob49

1:58pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Hessenford says...

The blue rinse wrinkleys keep voting idiots like Chope into power now they are reaping the rewards for electing a useless Councillor who runs a useless council, the only thing Chope and his cronies are good at is extracting and spending your money.
The blue rinse wrinkleys keep voting idiots like Chope into power now they are reaping the rewards for electing a useless Councillor who runs a useless council, the only thing Chope and his cronies are good at is extracting and spending your money. Hessenford

2:11pm Thu 13 Feb 14

live-and-let-live says...

Niki1 wrote:
I have just seen on BBC news that David Cameron is telling councils that they are NOT to charge for sandbags. Lets see if Christchurch Council will give the people who have already paid for them a refund!!!!!!!!!
christchurch council have already said they will supply free sandbags if the EA issue a red warning.
[quote][p][bold]Niki1[/bold] wrote: I have just seen on BBC news that David Cameron is telling councils that they are NOT to charge for sandbags. Lets see if Christchurch Council will give the people who have already paid for them a refund!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]christchurch council have already said they will supply free sandbags if the EA issue a red warning. live-and-let-live

2:12pm Thu 13 Feb 14

kalebmoledirt says...

E bay silverline pack of10 sandbags £5.50,show it to the crooks
E bay silverline pack of10 sandbags £5.50,show it to the crooks kalebmoledirt

2:32pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Afterhours says...

Oh come on let's be grown up about this.....things happen deal with it rather than looking for "someone to blame" .....this is what you have insurance for......open a dialog with your insurance company who will say buy the sandbags as you clearly need them to protect your property / and there interest in it. Then claim the cost within the "overall" settlement you expect. Not sure how many flats in the block but it is hardly the responsibility of just the ground floor residents as would be made clear in the "block insurance" policy...rather like the roof is not solely the upstair flats responsibility. As for councillors/MPs that what the ballot box is for folks !!!!
Oh come on let's be grown up about this.....things happen deal with it rather than looking for "someone to blame" .....this is what you have insurance for......open a dialog with your insurance company who will say buy the sandbags as you clearly need them to protect your property / and there interest in it. Then claim the cost within the "overall" settlement you expect. Not sure how many flats in the block but it is hardly the responsibility of just the ground floor residents as would be made clear in the "block insurance" policy...rather like the roof is not solely the upstair flats responsibility. As for councillors/MPs that what the ballot box is for folks !!!! Afterhours

2:36pm Thu 13 Feb 14

brianbadondayburr says...

I'm selling 4 sandbags for the price of 1, only 1.99
I'd say that's a bargain!
Call me asap
0800 BBADONDAY
I'm selling 4 sandbags for the price of 1, only 1.99 I'd say that's a bargain! Call me asap 0800 BBADONDAY brianbadondayburr

2:54pm Thu 13 Feb 14

TWERLY says...

Is sand included in the charge of £30 or not, if not there's plenty down on the beach isn't there !
Is sand included in the charge of £30 or not, if not there's plenty down on the beach isn't there ! TWERLY

3:09pm Thu 13 Feb 14

FrogKiss says...

2riversmeet have just posted on Facebook that they are selling the door pack , which is one long sack for the bottom and four pillow flood sacks. For £30. Don't know if they are the sand ones, or the ones with the magic absorbable stuff like in babies nappies. Now that's a thought. Nappy barrier !
2riversmeet have just posted on Facebook that they are selling the door pack , which is one long sack for the bottom and four pillow flood sacks. For £30. Don't know if they are the sand ones, or the ones with the magic absorbable stuff like in babies nappies. Now that's a thought. Nappy barrier ! FrogKiss

4:08pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Lesleycherry says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
I'm sure Chope was not the MP when some developer was allowed to build the flats too low on the floodplain. The developer should have built the flats a metre or so higher in the first place. The best thing in a situation like this is to stop whinging and blaming, and get the residents together and pay for a local firm with a digger to create a flood bank around the grounds of the property, cover it in grass making sure the top is at least a metre above the highest flood level. Install flap valves to drain surface water from inside the defence. I'm not a Tory supporter or a planner designer, just a realist.
I'm sure your advice on the way to deal with this is correct and would be very effective but I also thought that the PM was saying that people and/or businesses would qualify for a £5000 grant towards the cost of future flood-proofing their properties, whether residential or business? The residents of this block have already suffered from flooding so why would they not qualify for such a grant?
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: I'm sure Chope was not the MP when some developer was allowed to build the flats too low on the floodplain. The developer should have built the flats a metre or so higher in the first place. The best thing in a situation like this is to stop whinging and blaming, and get the residents together and pay for a local firm with a digger to create a flood bank around the grounds of the property, cover it in grass making sure the top is at least a metre above the highest flood level. Install flap valves to drain surface water from inside the defence. I'm not a Tory supporter or a planner designer, just a realist.[/p][/quote]I'm sure your advice on the way to deal with this is correct and would be very effective but I also thought that the PM was saying that people and/or businesses would qualify for a £5000 grant towards the cost of future flood-proofing their properties, whether residential or business? The residents of this block have already suffered from flooding so why would they not qualify for such a grant? Lesleycherry

5:09pm Thu 13 Feb 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

History.Christopher Chope.The MP who felt it was more important to discuss MP's expenses than Hillsborough.Tells you all about the ethic of this individual.And described by a senior MP as a maverick.

'Chope For The Chop.' Whoa Lovely !.
History.Christopher Chope.The MP who felt it was more important to discuss MP's expenses than Hillsborough.Tells you all about the ethic of this individual.And described by a senior MP as a maverick. 'Chope For The Chop.' Whoa Lovely !. politicaltrainspotter

5:38pm Thu 13 Feb 14

sea poole says...

joncon- love your comment. The MP (Missing Person) would have to find out where Poole is before he'd bend over backwards to help the residents! Anyway, helping would get in the way of filling in expenses forms!
joncon- love your comment. The MP (Missing Person) would have to find out where Poole is before he'd bend over backwards to help the residents! Anyway, helping would get in the way of filling in expenses forms! sea poole

6:16pm Thu 13 Feb 14

justme20092009 says...

people will moan they have to pay then they will moan council tax goes up cos council payed for sand bags and after that im surwe they moan about somthing else,id rather pay 30 quid and save damage to my home
people will moan they have to pay then they will moan council tax goes up cos council payed for sand bags and after that im surwe they moan about somthing else,id rather pay 30 quid and save damage to my home justme20092009

6:17pm Thu 13 Feb 14

justme20092009 says...

lets blame the goverment for all the rain a maybe they can make the summer sunny to
lets blame the goverment for all the rain a maybe they can make the summer sunny to justme20092009

6:46pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Alantrom says...

I'm sorry and I don't wish to appear heartless as it must be soul destroying to be flooded but, if you buy a property along side a river bank I thinnk you might reasonably expect the water to get too close sometimes and it would seem prudent to me to have a plan in place. i.e. get some suitable bags, barriers etc to be kept on-site with an arrangement with the grounds maintenance contractor to erect these in times of need.
Sme suggestion for the caravan park at Iford!
I'm sorry and I don't wish to appear heartless as it must be soul destroying to be flooded but, if you buy a property along side a river bank I thinnk you might reasonably expect the water to get too close sometimes and it would seem prudent to me to have a plan in place. i.e. get some suitable bags, barriers etc to be kept on-site with an arrangement with the grounds maintenance contractor to erect these in times of need. Sme suggestion for the caravan park at Iford! Alantrom

7:02pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

Lesleycherry wrote:
Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
I'm sure Chope was not the MP when some developer was allowed to build the flats too low on the floodplain. The developer should have built the flats a metre or so higher in the first place. The best thing in a situation like this is to stop whinging and blaming, and get the residents together and pay for a local firm with a digger to create a flood bank around the grounds of the property, cover it in grass making sure the top is at least a metre above the highest flood level. Install flap valves to drain surface water from inside the defence. I'm not a Tory supporter or a planner designer, just a realist.
I'm sure your advice on the way to deal with this is correct and would be very effective but I also thought that the PM was saying that people and/or businesses would qualify for a £5000 grant towards the cost of future flood-proofing their properties, whether residential or business? The residents of this block have already suffered from flooding so why would they not qualify for such a grant?
Yes you are right, Cameron did say 'money is no object' with regard to the flooding. His department should somehow let flooded homeowners know how to claim. As others have said I wouldn't bother with Chope. Write direct to Downing Street and ask David for his guidance about how to claim. A grant, even £5000 would be most welcome to the people affected like those at Conifer Close. Doing it yourself will get it done in a week. Let various councils, agencies do it etc. 10-20 years?
[quote][p][bold]Lesleycherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: I'm sure Chope was not the MP when some developer was allowed to build the flats too low on the floodplain. The developer should have built the flats a metre or so higher in the first place. The best thing in a situation like this is to stop whinging and blaming, and get the residents together and pay for a local firm with a digger to create a flood bank around the grounds of the property, cover it in grass making sure the top is at least a metre above the highest flood level. Install flap valves to drain surface water from inside the defence. I'm not a Tory supporter or a planner designer, just a realist.[/p][/quote]I'm sure your advice on the way to deal with this is correct and would be very effective but I also thought that the PM was saying that people and/or businesses would qualify for a £5000 grant towards the cost of future flood-proofing their properties, whether residential or business? The residents of this block have already suffered from flooding so why would they not qualify for such a grant?[/p][/quote]Yes you are right, Cameron did say 'money is no object' with regard to the flooding. His department should somehow let flooded homeowners know how to claim. As others have said I wouldn't bother with Chope. Write direct to Downing Street and ask David for his guidance about how to claim. A grant, even £5000 would be most welcome to the people affected like those at Conifer Close. Doing it yourself will get it done in a week. Let various councils, agencies do it etc. 10-20 years? Telscombe Cliffy

7:18pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Bob49 says...

Alantrom wrote:
I'm sorry and I don't wish to appear heartless as it must be soul destroying to be flooded but, if you buy a property along side a river bank I thinnk you might reasonably expect the water to get too close sometimes and it would seem prudent to me to have a plan in place. i.e. get some suitable bags, barriers etc to be kept on-site with an arrangement with the grounds maintenance contractor to erect these in times of need.
Sme suggestion for the caravan park at Iford!
I have to wonder if it were ten pound notes drifting onto these prp[erties would the residents be so eager to share that fortune with the rest of the community - jowever as it is water, others are now expected to cough up.

There must be some sense of personal responsibility if you chose to live this close to the river.
[quote][p][bold]Alantrom[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry and I don't wish to appear heartless as it must be soul destroying to be flooded but, if you buy a property along side a river bank I thinnk you might reasonably expect the water to get too close sometimes and it would seem prudent to me to have a plan in place. i.e. get some suitable bags, barriers etc to be kept on-site with an arrangement with the grounds maintenance contractor to erect these in times of need. Sme suggestion for the caravan park at Iford![/p][/quote]I have to wonder if it were ten pound notes drifting onto these prp[erties would the residents be so eager to share that fortune with the rest of the community - jowever as it is water, others are now expected to cough up. There must be some sense of personal responsibility if you chose to live this close to the river. Bob49

7:43pm Thu 13 Feb 14

audicherry says...

I just wonder how many more time to Christchurch Councillors and their officer have to be found out being dishonest.Yet again another rip off this Council is known for being excellent at conning the Christchurch public. .Christchurch a Pleasant place to live?it would improve vastly if we could dump the Council and sadly I think we would be much better of joining Bournemouth because so far the deals with East Dorset have been disaster , and as Christchurch Council over the years have proved they are not fit for purpose.
I just wonder how many more time to Christchurch Councillors and their officer have to be found out being dishonest.Yet again another rip off this Council is known for being excellent at conning the Christchurch public. .Christchurch a Pleasant place to live?it would improve vastly if we could dump the Council and sadly I think we would be much better of joining Bournemouth because so far the deals with East Dorset have been disaster , and as Christchurch Council over the years have proved they are not fit for purpose. audicherry

8:04pm Thu 13 Feb 14

rusty james says...

Don't worry, uncooked pasty faced Dave's on the case. Well, he is now the water's getting into the green wellies of his Surrey chums. Plank.
Don't worry, uncooked pasty faced Dave's on the case. Well, he is now the water's getting into the green wellies of his Surrey chums. Plank. rusty james

8:37pm Thu 13 Feb 14

live-and-let-live says...

and another thing, if these residents were flooded, or had a threat of flooding at christmas, dont you all think they might have got sandbags in case it happened again?
and another thing, if these residents were flooded, or had a threat of flooding at christmas, dont you all think they might have got sandbags in case it happened again? live-and-let-live

9:07pm Thu 13 Feb 14

UKIP4U says...

Another episode about the Elite Christchurch council doing what they want in "their" town,is what we expect from the Tories,!! unfortunately x'church council own most of the land to do whatever what they want, Druitt Gdns TPO's ignored,what next,the whole council and the absent gravy train career politician Chope who does nothing for his constituents have to go.Compare UKIP's Christchurch PPC for the general election out today helping and talking to the beseiged residents.Robin's comments""Christophe
r Chope, the local MP should pull his finger out and demand that the Council do the decent thing and provide the sand bags for residents. To not even meet them when they are asking for his support is sadly typical, of the ‘I’m all right jack’ attitude of so many of our elected representatives
Another episode about the Elite Christchurch council doing what they want in "their" town,is what we expect from the Tories,!! unfortunately x'church council own most of the land to do whatever what they want, Druitt Gdns TPO's ignored,what next,the whole council and the absent gravy train career politician Chope who does nothing for his constituents have to go.Compare UKIP's Christchurch PPC for the general election out today helping and talking to the beseiged residents.Robin's comments""Christophe r Chope, the local MP should pull his finger out and demand that the Council do the decent thing and provide the sand bags for residents. To not even meet them when they are asking for his support is sadly typical, of the ‘I’m all right jack’ attitude of so many of our elected representatives UKIP4U

9:51pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Western Sunset says...

One could buy a lot of sandbags for the amount Mr Chope allegedly pays his wife to run his office.....
One could buy a lot of sandbags for the amount Mr Chope allegedly pays his wife to run his office..... Western Sunset

11:21pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Bob49 says...

Western Sunset wrote:
One could buy a lot of sandbags for the amount Mr Chope allegedly pays his wife to run his office.....
surely

............pays he wife to allegedly run his office

personally I would think it would require at least two workers given the amount of expense claim forms that get submitted

not so much 'fill your sandbags' Chope as 'fill your boots' Chope
[quote][p][bold]Western Sunset[/bold] wrote: One could buy a lot of sandbags for the amount Mr Chope allegedly pays his wife to run his office.....[/p][/quote]surely ............pays he wife to allegedly run his office personally I would think it would require at least two workers given the amount of expense claim forms that get submitted not so much 'fill your sandbags' Chope as 'fill your boots' Chope Bob49

11:30pm Thu 13 Feb 14

sam.sprinks says...

Ok for the councillors they can just probably claim it back on 'expenses!
Ok for the councillors they can just probably claim it back on 'expenses! sam.sprinks

11:35pm Thu 13 Feb 14

s-pb2 says...

onetimeapathetic wrote:
rayc wrote:
The residents of Christchurch should have realised by now that the response to floods is driven by the media. without the media attention on the Somerset Levels or Thames Valley the Council's would not have been forced into calling an Emergency so that troops and multi agency assistance would be provided.
The question that you need to ask is would you want Neil Farmer, Strategic Director at Christchurch Borough Council or Mr Chope in the trenches with you when the going got tough.
No the response is not driven by the media. Somerset levels coverage was fairly minimal compared with the Tory heartlands of the Thames Valley - this is when all of a sudden Cameron intervenes and says that he will spare no expense to help them!!!!
It is driven by the media, where do you think the Sky TV execs live. Amazing how the floods became 24/7 news once their own homes were affected
[quote][p][bold]onetimeapathetic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: The residents of Christchurch should have realised by now that the response to floods is driven by the media. without the media attention on the Somerset Levels or Thames Valley the Council's would not have been forced into calling an Emergency so that troops and multi agency assistance would be provided. The question that you need to ask is would you want Neil Farmer, Strategic Director at Christchurch Borough Council or Mr Chope in the trenches with you when the going got tough.[/p][/quote]No the response is not driven by the media. Somerset levels coverage was fairly minimal compared with the Tory heartlands of the Thames Valley - this is when all of a sudden Cameron intervenes and says that he will spare no expense to help them!!!![/p][/quote]It is driven by the media, where do you think the Sky TV execs live. Amazing how the floods became 24/7 news once their own homes were affected s-pb2

11:38pm Thu 13 Feb 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

£1.31 a bag from Wickes!
.
Why are the council extorting their residents in a crisis?
.
Get it from a builders merchant or get the bags dirt cheap and head to the beach.
£1.31 a bag from Wickes! . Why are the council extorting their residents in a crisis? . Get it from a builders merchant or get the bags dirt cheap and head to the beach. HRH of Boscombe

12:02am Fri 14 Feb 14

Yankee1 says...

Chopper Chope is busy. At the House of Commons bar. Leave him alone.
Chopper Chope is busy. At the House of Commons bar. Leave him alone. Yankee1

12:04am Fri 14 Feb 14

Yankee1 says...

TWERLY wrote:
Is sand included in the charge of £30 or not, if not there's plenty down on the beach isn't there !
You will be arrested if you take that.
[quote][p][bold]TWERLY[/bold] wrote: Is sand included in the charge of £30 or not, if not there's plenty down on the beach isn't there ![/p][/quote]You will be arrested if you take that. Yankee1

11:47am Fri 14 Feb 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

Yankee1 wrote:
TWERLY wrote:
Is sand included in the charge of £30 or not, if not there's plenty down on the beach isn't there !
You will be arrested if you take that.
I would love to see that. It would be worth doing just to embarrass the Council further in court.
.
'Why we're you taking sand from the beach?'
.
'My house is flooded and even though the government said sandbags would be free Xchurch are charging £30 for 4 bags which is unaffordable'
.
Any judge would kick it out with the Council with its tail between their legs. Also I've never seen any signs saying you can't take sand from the beach
[quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TWERLY[/bold] wrote: Is sand included in the charge of £30 or not, if not there's plenty down on the beach isn't there ![/p][/quote]You will be arrested if you take that.[/p][/quote]I would love to see that. It would be worth doing just to embarrass the Council further in court. . 'Why we're you taking sand from the beach?' . 'My house is flooded and even though the government said sandbags would be free Xchurch are charging £30 for 4 bags which is unaffordable' . Any judge would kick it out with the Council with its tail between their legs. Also I've never seen any signs saying you can't take sand from the beach HRH of Boscombe

5:23pm Fri 14 Feb 14

shaft says...

live-and-let-live wrote:
B&Q sell sand.
You are a stones throw from a beach - come on people wheres the british spirit. get on with it. Your council cannot help because they don't know how to. You get what you voted for.
[quote][p][bold]live-and-let-live[/bold] wrote: B&Q sell sand.[/p][/quote]You are a stones throw from a beach - come on people wheres the british spirit. get on with it. Your council cannot help because they don't know how to. You get what you voted for. shaft

6:12pm Fri 14 Feb 14

PhiilH says...

audicherry wrote:
I just wonder how many more time to Christchurch Councillors and their officer have to be found out being dishonest.Yet again another rip off this Council is known for being excellent at conning the Christchurch public. .Christchurch a Pleasant place to live?it would improve vastly if we could dump the Council and sadly I think we would be much better of joining Bournemouth because so far the deals with East Dorset have been disaster , and as Christchurch Council over the years have proved they are not fit for purpose.
Bournemouth is a s__thole and I would rater have Boris Johnson run Christchurch than Bournemouth Council our council don't put buildings up and charge the residents then pull them down and charge the residents again most people in Christchurch know that our council are mostly dishonest hint hint just like Bournemouth, £1,000,000 in to a fund to benefit Christchurch residents so a developer can build another supermarket on the Bailey Bridge site and the chairman of this fund is a director of the developers adds up to BACKHANDER PAYOFF BRIBE and I would think very dishonest and finally if you live near water take out insurance for your sandbags I don't want to pay for them and no one else does either had my say Thank You. Christchurch Resident as were nearly all my ancestors on my dads family so if you are not from Christchurch please look after your own area .
[quote][p][bold]audicherry[/bold] wrote: I just wonder how many more time to Christchurch Councillors and their officer have to be found out being dishonest.Yet again another rip off this Council is known for being excellent at conning the Christchurch public. .Christchurch a Pleasant place to live?it would improve vastly if we could dump the Council and sadly I think we would be much better of joining Bournemouth because so far the deals with East Dorset have been disaster , and as Christchurch Council over the years have proved they are not fit for purpose.[/p][/quote]Bournemouth is a s__thole and I would rater have Boris Johnson run Christchurch than Bournemouth Council our council don't put buildings up and charge the residents then pull them down and charge the residents again most people in Christchurch know that our council are mostly dishonest hint hint just like Bournemouth, £1,000,000 in to a fund to benefit Christchurch residents so a developer can build another supermarket on the Bailey Bridge site and the chairman of this fund is a director of the developers adds up to BACKHANDER PAYOFF BRIBE and I would think very dishonest and finally if you live near water take out insurance for your sandbags I don't want to pay for them and no one else does either had my say Thank You. Christchurch Resident as were nearly all my ancestors on my dads family so if you are not from Christchurch please look after your own area . PhiilH

4:55pm Sat 15 Feb 14

brian74 says...

UKIP4U wrote:
Another episode about the Elite Christchurch council doing what they want in "their" town,is what we expect from the Tories,!! unfortunately x'church council own most of the land to do whatever what they want, Druitt Gdns TPO's ignored,what next,the whole council and the absent gravy train career politician Chope who does nothing for his constituents have to go.Compare UKIP's Christchurch PPC for the general election out today helping and talking to the beseiged residents.Robin's comments""Christophe

r Chope, the local MP should pull his finger out and demand that the Council do the decent thing and provide the sand bags for residents. To not even meet them when they are asking for his support is sadly typical, of the ‘I’m all right jack’ attitude of so many of our elected representatives
Come on then UKIP show us what you are made of and fight for Christchurch.

Fight to ensure Druitt gardens are not forgotten, I reported CBC to the HSE for the safety concerns at Druitt gardens.
I asked UKIP to investigate for Christchurch residents.

Lets see what your made of.

Charge for sandbanks - who's idea was that!!!, the same person who said the tree felling was down to storms??
[quote][p][bold]UKIP4U[/bold] wrote: Another episode about the Elite Christchurch council doing what they want in "their" town,is what we expect from the Tories,!! unfortunately x'church council own most of the land to do whatever what they want, Druitt Gdns TPO's ignored,what next,the whole council and the absent gravy train career politician Chope who does nothing for his constituents have to go.Compare UKIP's Christchurch PPC for the general election out today helping and talking to the beseiged residents.Robin's comments""Christophe r Chope, the local MP should pull his finger out and demand that the Council do the decent thing and provide the sand bags for residents. To not even meet them when they are asking for his support is sadly typical, of the ‘I’m all right jack’ attitude of so many of our elected representatives[/p][/quote]Come on then UKIP show us what you are made of and fight for Christchurch. Fight to ensure Druitt gardens are not forgotten, I reported CBC to the HSE for the safety concerns at Druitt gardens. I asked UKIP to investigate for Christchurch residents. Lets see what your made of. Charge for sandbanks - who's idea was that!!!, the same person who said the tree felling was down to storms?? brian74

8:14pm Sun 16 Feb 14

pete woodley says...

Alantrom wrote:
I'm sorry and I don't wish to appear heartless as it must be soul destroying to be flooded but, if you buy a property along side a river bank I thinnk you might reasonably expect the water to get too close sometimes and it would seem prudent to me to have a plan in place. i.e. get some suitable bags, barriers etc to be kept on-site with an arrangement with the grounds maintenance contractor to erect these in times of need.
Sme suggestion for the caravan park at Iford!
Smack on,so obvious that it would flood,but they would not think or listen,now they want help.
[quote][p][bold]Alantrom[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry and I don't wish to appear heartless as it must be soul destroying to be flooded but, if you buy a property along side a river bank I thinnk you might reasonably expect the water to get too close sometimes and it would seem prudent to me to have a plan in place. i.e. get some suitable bags, barriers etc to be kept on-site with an arrangement with the grounds maintenance contractor to erect these in times of need. Sme suggestion for the caravan park at Iford![/p][/quote]Smack on,so obvious that it would flood,but they would not think or listen,now they want help. pete woodley

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