'Don’t cut our bus services’ – Colehill residents start petition in fight for council u-turn

CHANGES: Residents face losing key bus services

CHANGES: Councillor Janet Dover

CHANGES: Councillor Hilary Cox

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EAST Dorset residents faced with losing key bus services have started a petition and are urging Dorset councillors to change their minds.

Various bus services in the Wimborne and Colehill areas will change or be lost completely from April 1 as the council aims to save £850,000 from the £2.8m it spends on its bus subsidy.

But affected residents have vowed to carry on campaigning for a council U-turn and are trying to get 1,000 signatures by the end of the week to force a new debate on the issue.

A petition is online at change.org and hard copies are in Colehill library, the Night Jar, St Michael’s Church hall, Colehill Co-op, the One Stop at Canford Bottom, the Barrington Centre and the Tivoli.

Colehill resident Paul Oliver, who started the petition, said: “The comments on the online petition show the major effect this will have on all sorts of people – including students who rely on buses to get in and out of Bournemouth and older people who use the bus to travel from one end of Colehill to another.

“There are many residents who will find themselves unable to make late doctor and dentist appointments or take in a show at the Pavilion in Bournemouth or the Tivoli in Wimborne or the Ferndown Barrington.

“I don’t want to see Wimborne die in the evenings, but I fear that’s what will happen.

“It seems like the council is only looking at the numbers and has not thought about the repercussions. I would urge anyone concerned to sign the petition now, then we can hopefully have a proper consultation on this issue.”

Councillor Janet Dover, county councillor for the Colehill and Stapehill division, has fiercely objected to the cutting of the services. She said: “I am absolutely dismayed about the loss of these services.

“It’s wonderful to hear that the petition is doing so well.”

Cllr Hilary Cox, Dorset County Council’s cabinet member for the environment, said: “Dorset County Council has continued to subsidise locally-needed buses with £2m of the Dorset taxpayers’ money.

“We have ensured that no village that was previously served by a bus has been left without a service entirely. We have also put aside funding to help communities with setting up volunteer schemes.

“In times when we are operating tight budgets it is unfortunate but necessary to implement these reductions in service.”

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7:29am Thu 6 Feb 14

Baysider says...

Perhaps those signing the petition could also take the time to suggest which other council service should be cut instead of their subsidised travel arrangements?

If they voted Tory they voted for massive cuts to public services so either get used to it or think about the longer term effects of where they put their X.
Perhaps those signing the petition could also take the time to suggest which other council service should be cut instead of their subsidised travel arrangements? If they voted Tory they voted for massive cuts to public services so either get used to it or think about the longer term effects of where they put their X. Baysider
  • Score: -3

7:31am Thu 6 Feb 14

arthur1948 says...

Welcome to conservative Britain......they conserve nothing.....same old conservative...
Welcome to conservative Britain......they conserve nothing.....same old conservative... arthur1948
  • Score: -5

7:40am Thu 6 Feb 14

Cosmic Crusader says...

There are lots of issues here but a key one is the completion between our two local bus companies. The expansion of Yellow Buses out of its traditional boundaries has given us a needless duplication of services which are often under used. The privatisation of public transport in this country was an ill thought out exercise which has left us with systems which are totally inadequate for the needs of the public.
There are lots of issues here but a key one is the completion between our two local bus companies. The expansion of Yellow Buses out of its traditional boundaries has given us a needless duplication of services which are often under used. The privatisation of public transport in this country was an ill thought out exercise which has left us with systems which are totally inadequate for the needs of the public. Cosmic Crusader
  • Score: 7

7:41am Thu 6 Feb 14

dorsetbeachcomber says...

Don't blame Dorset County Council. They've been squeezed beyond reason by the Government. There are further cuts to council services to come. This is only the beginning. The only way you can make a change is through the ballot box at the next General Election.
Don't blame Dorset County Council. They've been squeezed beyond reason by the Government. There are further cuts to council services to come. This is only the beginning. The only way you can make a change is through the ballot box at the next General Election. dorsetbeachcomber
  • Score: 0

8:06am Thu 6 Feb 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Hopefully they have checked on passenger numbers and those that are used Will remain everyone else will have to adapt
Hopefully they have checked on passenger numbers and those that are used Will remain everyone else will have to adapt kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 6

8:35am Thu 6 Feb 14

terra firma says...

Those locals able, and willing to walk, may be concerned to learn that DCC already appear to have abandoned their occasional clearance of leaves and debris from the footpaths through Colehill,
Those locals able, and willing to walk, may be concerned to learn that DCC already appear to have abandoned their occasional clearance of leaves and debris from the footpaths through Colehill, terra firma
  • Score: 0

9:05am Thu 6 Feb 14

rayc says...

I thought that the policies of councils was to make all forms of transport more attractive than car use. They all have anti car policies but are unable to provide viable alternatives. Part of the anti car policies are car parking charges and they have been so successful that the income is falling as drivers stay away. It does make you wonder if it has all been thought through.
I thought that the policies of councils was to make all forms of transport more attractive than car use. They all have anti car policies but are unable to provide viable alternatives. Part of the anti car policies are car parking charges and they have been so successful that the income is falling as drivers stay away. It does make you wonder if it has all been thought through. rayc
  • Score: 0

9:11am Thu 6 Feb 14

Baysider says...

terra firma wrote:
Those locals able, and willing to walk, may be concerned to learn that DCC already appear to have abandoned their occasional clearance of leaves and debris from the footpaths through Colehill,
Yep that's the sort of thing that happens when funding is slashed by 20, 30,, 40% though isn't it. If it's a choice between sending road sweepers out as often as they used to (if there's any left) or withdrawing an elderly or disabled persons care package to pay for it which one is the bigger vote loser?
[quote][p][bold]terra firma[/bold] wrote: Those locals able, and willing to walk, may be concerned to learn that DCC already appear to have abandoned their occasional clearance of leaves and debris from the footpaths through Colehill,[/p][/quote]Yep that's the sort of thing that happens when funding is slashed by 20, 30,, 40% though isn't it. If it's a choice between sending road sweepers out as often as they used to (if there's any left) or withdrawing an elderly or disabled persons care package to pay for it which one is the bigger vote loser? Baysider
  • Score: -4

9:38am Thu 6 Feb 14

BIGTONE says...

Janet where's Ben?
You have no chance.
The County are closing the purse.
Janet where's Ben? You have no chance. The County are closing the purse. BIGTONE
  • Score: 0

10:18am Thu 6 Feb 14

CGpoole says...

Baysider wrote:
Perhaps those signing the petition could also take the time to suggest which other council service should be cut instead of their subsidised travel arrangements?

If they voted Tory they voted for massive cuts to public services so either get used to it or think about the longer term effects of where they put their X.
And perhaps the people who always have to make these things into a political argument or protest should find out the details first!!!
One of the complaints is that the last bus service out of Colehill will be at 5.30pm. For anyone who works outside of Wimborne and relies on the bus as their transport to get them to and from work, they will not be able to get a bus to Colehill after 5.30pm. If you work until 5pm onwards in Ferndown (including the Industrial Estates) Bournemouth or Poole how are you supposed to get home if you live in Colehill.
On the other hand if you work nights or want to go to Bournemouth or Poole after 5.30pm how are the residents who rely on the buses supposed to get there.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: Perhaps those signing the petition could also take the time to suggest which other council service should be cut instead of their subsidised travel arrangements? If they voted Tory they voted for massive cuts to public services so either get used to it or think about the longer term effects of where they put their X.[/p][/quote]And perhaps the people who always have to make these things into a political argument or protest should find out the details first!!! One of the complaints is that the last bus service out of Colehill will be at 5.30pm. For anyone who works outside of Wimborne and relies on the bus as their transport to get them to and from work, they will not be able to get a bus to Colehill after 5.30pm. If you work until 5pm onwards in Ferndown (including the Industrial Estates) Bournemouth or Poole how are you supposed to get home if you live in Colehill. On the other hand if you work nights or want to go to Bournemouth or Poole after 5.30pm how are the residents who rely on the buses supposed to get there. CGpoole
  • Score: 3

10:46am Thu 6 Feb 14

terra firma says...

Baysider wrote:
terra firma wrote:
Those locals able, and willing to walk, may be concerned to learn that DCC already appear to have abandoned their occasional clearance of leaves and debris from the footpaths through Colehill,
Yep that's the sort of thing that happens when funding is slashed by 20, 30,, 40% though isn't it. If it's a choice between sending road sweepers out as often as they used to (if there's any left) or withdrawing an elderly or disabled persons care package to pay for it which one is the bigger vote loser?
If you consider the wider picture, I would suggest this impacts on the elderly and disabled, as well as local children, who use these paths on their way to schools, shops, pharmacy etc.. Should the rain ever stop, and we get the more normal frosty / icy conditions around this time of year, the slushy residue will doubtless contribute to injuries from slips and falls.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]terra firma[/bold] wrote: Those locals able, and willing to walk, may be concerned to learn that DCC already appear to have abandoned their occasional clearance of leaves and debris from the footpaths through Colehill,[/p][/quote]Yep that's the sort of thing that happens when funding is slashed by 20, 30,, 40% though isn't it. If it's a choice between sending road sweepers out as often as they used to (if there's any left) or withdrawing an elderly or disabled persons care package to pay for it which one is the bigger vote loser?[/p][/quote]If you consider the wider picture, I would suggest this impacts on the elderly and disabled, as well as local children, who use these paths on their way to schools, shops, pharmacy etc.. Should the rain ever stop, and we get the more normal frosty / icy conditions around this time of year, the slushy residue will doubtless contribute to injuries from slips and falls. terra firma
  • Score: 0

10:48am Thu 6 Feb 14

Baysider says...

CGpoole wrote:
Baysider wrote:
Perhaps those signing the petition could also take the time to suggest which other council service should be cut instead of their subsidised travel arrangements?

If they voted Tory they voted for massive cuts to public services so either get used to it or think about the longer term effects of where they put their X.
And perhaps the people who always have to make these things into a political argument or protest should find out the details first!!!
One of the complaints is that the last bus service out of Colehill will be at 5.30pm. For anyone who works outside of Wimborne and relies on the bus as their transport to get them to and from work, they will not be able to get a bus to Colehill after 5.30pm. If you work until 5pm onwards in Ferndown (including the Industrial Estates) Bournemouth or Poole how are you supposed to get home if you live in Colehill.
On the other hand if you work nights or want to go to Bournemouth or Poole after 5.30pm how are the residents who rely on the buses supposed to get there.
Well...it IS a political decision isn't it? There is not the same amount of money in the pot so difficult and unpopular decisions are having to be taken about what the priorities are. Sadly this clearly effects you on this occasion but take comfort that next week it'll be someone else not getting the same levels of public service they used to.

This is just a very clear example of how decisions made by central government directly effect our everyday lives.
[quote][p][bold]CGpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: Perhaps those signing the petition could also take the time to suggest which other council service should be cut instead of their subsidised travel arrangements? If they voted Tory they voted for massive cuts to public services so either get used to it or think about the longer term effects of where they put their X.[/p][/quote]And perhaps the people who always have to make these things into a political argument or protest should find out the details first!!! One of the complaints is that the last bus service out of Colehill will be at 5.30pm. For anyone who works outside of Wimborne and relies on the bus as their transport to get them to and from work, they will not be able to get a bus to Colehill after 5.30pm. If you work until 5pm onwards in Ferndown (including the Industrial Estates) Bournemouth or Poole how are you supposed to get home if you live in Colehill. On the other hand if you work nights or want to go to Bournemouth or Poole after 5.30pm how are the residents who rely on the buses supposed to get there.[/p][/quote]Well...it IS a political decision isn't it? There is not the same amount of money in the pot so difficult and unpopular decisions are having to be taken about what the priorities are. Sadly this clearly effects you on this occasion but take comfort that next week it'll be someone else not getting the same levels of public service they used to. This is just a very clear example of how decisions made by central government directly effect our everyday lives. Baysider
  • Score: -6

11:54am Thu 6 Feb 14

CGpoole says...

Baysider wrote:
CGpoole wrote:
Baysider wrote:
Perhaps those signing the petition could also take the time to suggest which other council service should be cut instead of their subsidised travel arrangements?

If they voted Tory they voted for massive cuts to public services so either get used to it or think about the longer term effects of where they put their X.
And perhaps the people who always have to make these things into a political argument or protest should find out the details first!!!
One of the complaints is that the last bus service out of Colehill will be at 5.30pm. For anyone who works outside of Wimborne and relies on the bus as their transport to get them to and from work, they will not be able to get a bus to Colehill after 5.30pm. If you work until 5pm onwards in Ferndown (including the Industrial Estates) Bournemouth or Poole how are you supposed to get home if you live in Colehill.
On the other hand if you work nights or want to go to Bournemouth or Poole after 5.30pm how are the residents who rely on the buses supposed to get there.
Well...it IS a political decision isn't it? There is not the same amount of money in the pot so difficult and unpopular decisions are having to be taken about what the priorities are. Sadly this clearly effects you on this occasion but take comfort that next week it'll be someone else not getting the same levels of public service they used to.

This is just a very clear example of how decisions made by central government directly effect our everyday lives.
It wouldn't have mattered which party took on the mess at the last election. They would all have to make cuts but the cuts have to be sensible which is the point of the petition.
It doesn't effect me as I don't live in Wimborne but it effects people I know.
From your initial comment you insinuated that everyone in Wimborne & Colehill are to blame for the cuts as they voted Tory and that they all get subsidised travel arrangements. I take it you don't live in Wimborne or Colehill ether?
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CGpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: Perhaps those signing the petition could also take the time to suggest which other council service should be cut instead of their subsidised travel arrangements? If they voted Tory they voted for massive cuts to public services so either get used to it or think about the longer term effects of where they put their X.[/p][/quote]And perhaps the people who always have to make these things into a political argument or protest should find out the details first!!! One of the complaints is that the last bus service out of Colehill will be at 5.30pm. For anyone who works outside of Wimborne and relies on the bus as their transport to get them to and from work, they will not be able to get a bus to Colehill after 5.30pm. If you work until 5pm onwards in Ferndown (including the Industrial Estates) Bournemouth or Poole how are you supposed to get home if you live in Colehill. On the other hand if you work nights or want to go to Bournemouth or Poole after 5.30pm how are the residents who rely on the buses supposed to get there.[/p][/quote]Well...it IS a political decision isn't it? There is not the same amount of money in the pot so difficult and unpopular decisions are having to be taken about what the priorities are. Sadly this clearly effects you on this occasion but take comfort that next week it'll be someone else not getting the same levels of public service they used to. This is just a very clear example of how decisions made by central government directly effect our everyday lives.[/p][/quote]It wouldn't have mattered which party took on the mess at the last election. They would all have to make cuts but the cuts have to be sensible which is the point of the petition. It doesn't effect me as I don't live in Wimborne but it effects people I know. From your initial comment you insinuated that everyone in Wimborne & Colehill are to blame for the cuts as they voted Tory and that they all get subsidised travel arrangements. I take it you don't live in Wimborne or Colehill ether? CGpoole
  • Score: 3

12:05pm Thu 6 Feb 14

BmthNewshound says...

Baysider wrote:
Perhaps those signing the petition could also take the time to suggest which other council service should be cut instead of their subsidised travel arrangements?

If they voted Tory they voted for massive cuts to public services so either get used to it or think about the longer term effects of where they put their X.
Baysider asks a very valild question. Where I disagree is that it doesn't matter whether you vote Tory, Lib Dem or Labour all the main parties agree that cuts to public services will have to continue whoever is in control of the purse strings. For years the country was living beyond its means and now we're paying the price.
.
The amount of money the council pay's out in bus subsidies could be cut if they scapped free travel for the elderly and replaced it with a scheme whereby the elderly paid half fare. My Mum who is 78 has said that she'd happily pay half fare and keep her local bus service than have a free bus pass but no bus to use it on.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: Perhaps those signing the petition could also take the time to suggest which other council service should be cut instead of their subsidised travel arrangements? If they voted Tory they voted for massive cuts to public services so either get used to it or think about the longer term effects of where they put their X.[/p][/quote]Baysider asks a very valild question. Where I disagree is that it doesn't matter whether you vote Tory, Lib Dem or Labour all the main parties agree that cuts to public services will have to continue whoever is in control of the purse strings. For years the country was living beyond its means and now we're paying the price. . The amount of money the council pay's out in bus subsidies could be cut if they scapped free travel for the elderly and replaced it with a scheme whereby the elderly paid half fare. My Mum who is 78 has said that she'd happily pay half fare and keep her local bus service than have a free bus pass but no bus to use it on. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 1

12:11pm Thu 6 Feb 14

MJD says...

I blame the residence of the area for lack of use of the buses. Empty buses don't pay. Use it or lose it.
I blame the residence of the area for lack of use of the buses. Empty buses don't pay. Use it or lose it. MJD
  • Score: 1

12:24pm Thu 6 Feb 14

smhinto says...

Then we money wasted on a silly, stuipid - Welcome to Bournemouth sign being placed over the A338. The mind just Boggles!!
Then we money wasted on a silly, stuipid - Welcome to Bournemouth sign being placed over the A338. The mind just Boggles!! smhinto
  • Score: -1

12:24pm Thu 6 Feb 14

smhinto says...

Then we money wasted on a silly, stuipid - Welcome to Bournemouth sign being placed over the A338. The mind just Boggles!!
Then we money wasted on a silly, stuipid - Welcome to Bournemouth sign being placed over the A338. The mind just Boggles!! smhinto
  • Score: -1

12:37pm Thu 6 Feb 14

speedy231278 says...

I used to travel quite often from Bournemouth to Wimborne on the so-called 'Wimborne flyer' (in reality, a stupidly long journey over a daft route that took twice as long as it ought to), and whileit was always rammed with pensioners using bus passes, frequently my other half and I were the only people to actually hand over any money to the driver. Bus companies don't get adequately subsidised by the local councils to cover the cost of free travel for pass holders, so why should they pay out of their own pocket? If the local authorities can afford tens of thousands for silly signs above the A338, hundreds of thousands for a campsite for 'travellers', millions to demolish the IMAX and attempt to buy the Exeter Road car park, I'm sure they can stretch to properly compensating bus companies to run unprofitable routes!
I used to travel quite often from Bournemouth to Wimborne on the so-called 'Wimborne flyer' (in reality, a stupidly long journey over a daft route that took twice as long as it ought to), and whileit was always rammed with pensioners using bus passes, frequently my other half and I were the only people to actually hand over any money to the driver. Bus companies don't get adequately subsidised by the local councils to cover the cost of free travel for pass holders, so why should they pay out of their own pocket? If the local authorities can afford tens of thousands for silly signs above the A338, hundreds of thousands for a campsite for 'travellers', millions to demolish the IMAX and attempt to buy the Exeter Road car park, I'm sure they can stretch to properly compensating bus companies to run unprofitable routes! speedy231278
  • Score: 5

3:33pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Baysider says...

CGpoole wrote:
Baysider wrote:
CGpoole wrote:
Baysider wrote:
Perhaps those signing the petition could also take the time to suggest which other council service should be cut instead of their subsidised travel arrangements?

If they voted Tory they voted for massive cuts to public services so either get used to it or think about the longer term effects of where they put their X.
And perhaps the people who always have to make these things into a political argument or protest should find out the details first!!!
One of the complaints is that the last bus service out of Colehill will be at 5.30pm. For anyone who works outside of Wimborne and relies on the bus as their transport to get them to and from work, they will not be able to get a bus to Colehill after 5.30pm. If you work until 5pm onwards in Ferndown (including the Industrial Estates) Bournemouth or Poole how are you supposed to get home if you live in Colehill.
On the other hand if you work nights or want to go to Bournemouth or Poole after 5.30pm how are the residents who rely on the buses supposed to get there.
Well...it IS a political decision isn't it? There is not the same amount of money in the pot so difficult and unpopular decisions are having to be taken about what the priorities are. Sadly this clearly effects you on this occasion but take comfort that next week it'll be someone else not getting the same levels of public service they used to.

This is just a very clear example of how decisions made by central government directly effect our everyday lives.
It wouldn't have mattered which party took on the mess at the last election. They would all have to make cuts but the cuts have to be sensible which is the point of the petition.
It doesn't effect me as I don't live in Wimborne but it effects people I know.
From your initial comment you insinuated that everyone in Wimborne & Colehill are to blame for the cuts as they voted Tory and that they all get subsidised travel arrangements. I take it you don't live in Wimborne or Colehill ether?
That's not what I said or meant at all. My point is that the Tory party stood on a platform of implementing austerity and cutting public spending. It seems counter intuitive them that many of those who presumably wanted that implemented are now up in arms because these cuts are effecting them.

It reached a level where cuts to front line services suffered some time ago but most of the public seem untroubled until such time as it's their library that closes, or their day centre or their mums bus route is pulled when of course it immediately becomes unfair, nonsensical, etc.
[quote][p][bold]CGpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CGpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: Perhaps those signing the petition could also take the time to suggest which other council service should be cut instead of their subsidised travel arrangements? If they voted Tory they voted for massive cuts to public services so either get used to it or think about the longer term effects of where they put their X.[/p][/quote]And perhaps the people who always have to make these things into a political argument or protest should find out the details first!!! One of the complaints is that the last bus service out of Colehill will be at 5.30pm. For anyone who works outside of Wimborne and relies on the bus as their transport to get them to and from work, they will not be able to get a bus to Colehill after 5.30pm. If you work until 5pm onwards in Ferndown (including the Industrial Estates) Bournemouth or Poole how are you supposed to get home if you live in Colehill. On the other hand if you work nights or want to go to Bournemouth or Poole after 5.30pm how are the residents who rely on the buses supposed to get there.[/p][/quote]Well...it IS a political decision isn't it? There is not the same amount of money in the pot so difficult and unpopular decisions are having to be taken about what the priorities are. Sadly this clearly effects you on this occasion but take comfort that next week it'll be someone else not getting the same levels of public service they used to. This is just a very clear example of how decisions made by central government directly effect our everyday lives.[/p][/quote]It wouldn't have mattered which party took on the mess at the last election. They would all have to make cuts but the cuts have to be sensible which is the point of the petition. It doesn't effect me as I don't live in Wimborne but it effects people I know. From your initial comment you insinuated that everyone in Wimborne & Colehill are to blame for the cuts as they voted Tory and that they all get subsidised travel arrangements. I take it you don't live in Wimborne or Colehill ether?[/p][/quote]That's not what I said or meant at all. My point is that the Tory party stood on a platform of implementing austerity and cutting public spending. It seems counter intuitive them that many of those who presumably wanted that implemented are now up in arms because these cuts are effecting them. It reached a level where cuts to front line services suffered some time ago but most of the public seem untroubled until such time as it's their library that closes, or their day centre or their mums bus route is pulled when of course it immediately becomes unfair, nonsensical, etc. Baysider
  • Score: 0

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