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Nappy bank to aid struggling families

Bournemouth Echo: Health visitor Rachael Hearson, front left, with nappy bank supporters Health visitor Rachael Hearson, front left, with nappy bank supporters

A NEW nappy bank to help Poole families in hardship, has been launched by Dorset HealthCare’s B First (Babies and Families In Recessionary/Stressful Times) Project.

It follows an increase in referrals to local food banks over the last few years as more and more families struggle to afford other necessary items.

For many families are not just in need of food, but everyday products such as nappies, female sanitary products, toothbrushes and toothpaste. As Poole’s Food Bank doesn’t have the capacity to provide them, a team of local health visitors has set up a Nappy Bank to provide items that families may be struggling to purchase from their weekly budgets. Rachael Hearson, a local health visitor who devised the scheme, explained: “Sanitary products and nappies can make a dent in the weekly family budget and can severely limit the food choices for that week.

“But these are essential items that families need. “In recognition of this and to provide a bit of extra help to families, we have launched a Nappy Bank; with the help of JP Morgan – who have kindly donated £1,000. “The Nappy Bank can be accessed via a voucher scheme similar to those in place at food banks.”

Vouchers for the Nappy Bank will be issued from Heatherview Medical Centre in Poole and can be redeemed at Branksome Children’s Centre on Poole Road.

The vouchers can be obtained by completing a referral form. For more information, contact Rachael Hearson at Heatherview Medical Centre on 01202 722233 or email rachael.hearson@dhuft.nhs.uk.

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4:58pm Sat 11 Jan 14

spooki says...

What? I had a baby and then became unexpectedly single. I had to pay for nappies and everything else MYSELF. Yes I'm on benefits (not proud of it) but I have also used my little savings to provide for us. I have NO credit cards, no debt whatsoever and I buy things for my child first.
I have NO fancy contract phone, Sky tv, expensive car, fake nails, tattoos, nor do I smoke or drink. So why on earth as a single parent should I expect to have use of a nappy bank?
It's a nice thing to do for those who are REALLY in need and I hope those are the ones who receive the help. But there are so many out there who would rather spend the money on themselves and luxuries before spending a single penny on their children. My child is my priority and I will happily go without to see she has whatever she needs (and by needs I mean needs, not demands).
I would say a thank you to the people who provide these services but I wish they would make sure the ones who really deserve them can use them.
What? I had a baby and then became unexpectedly single. I had to pay for nappies and everything else MYSELF. Yes I'm on benefits (not proud of it) but I have also used my little savings to provide for us. I have NO credit cards, no debt whatsoever and I buy things for my child first. I have NO fancy contract phone, Sky tv, expensive car, fake nails, tattoos, nor do I smoke or drink. So why on earth as a single parent should I expect to have use of a nappy bank? It's a nice thing to do for those who are REALLY in need and I hope those are the ones who receive the help. But there are so many out there who would rather spend the money on themselves and luxuries before spending a single penny on their children. My child is my priority and I will happily go without to see she has whatever she needs (and by needs I mean needs, not demands). I would say a thank you to the people who provide these services but I wish they would make sure the ones who really deserve them can use them. spooki
  • Score: 62

5:06pm Sat 11 Jan 14

whataboutthat says...

A bit self righteous spooki.
JP Morgan - the bank that keeps getting fined for financial shenanigans.
Signs of the times with people unable to cope with low wages and crap prospects. They probably don't smoke or drink either. The self righteous always fasten on fags and booze as unpardonable sins. Really droll.
Looks to me that this is more or less means tested anyway so no free loaders - relax spooki.
A bit self righteous spooki. JP Morgan - the bank that keeps getting fined for financial shenanigans. Signs of the times with people unable to cope with low wages and crap prospects. They probably don't smoke or drink either. The self righteous always fasten on fags and booze as unpardonable sins. Really droll. Looks to me that this is more or less means tested anyway so no free loaders - relax spooki. whataboutthat
  • Score: -30

5:49pm Sat 11 Jan 14

blackdog1 says...

Nappy banks , for gods sake! What do people do with their benefit money,housing benefit ,child credit and all the other payments they get for free!?
Nappy banks , for gods sake! What do people do with their benefit money,housing benefit ,child credit and all the other payments they get for free!? blackdog1
  • Score: 34

5:57pm Sat 11 Jan 14

whataboutthat says...

blackdog1 wrote:
Nappy banks , for gods sake! What do people do with their benefit money,housing benefit ,child credit and all the other payments they get for free!?
Quite simply blackdog1 it is not enough to live on. Have you seen the latest 'benefit' rates?
[quote][p][bold]blackdog1[/bold] wrote: Nappy banks , for gods sake! What do people do with their benefit money,housing benefit ,child credit and all the other payments they get for free!?[/p][/quote]Quite simply blackdog1 it is not enough to live on. Have you seen the latest 'benefit' rates? whataboutthat
  • Score: -32

7:01pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Townee says...

Instead of giving disposable nappies they should give the old style terry nappies. Help with the environment and cheaper in the long run. It was good enough for my kids and good enough for my mum.
I wonder how much they waste on the disposable ones per week when you just wash them, hang them out AND REUSE THEM NOT THROW THEM AWAY.
Instead of giving disposable nappies they should give the old style terry nappies. Help with the environment and cheaper in the long run. It was good enough for my kids and good enough for my mum. I wonder how much they waste on the disposable ones per week when you just wash them, hang them out AND REUSE THEM NOT THROW THEM AWAY. Townee
  • Score: 45

7:04pm Sat 11 Jan 14

BournemouthMum says...

Nappy banks? So what do these people spend their tax credits and child benefit payments on then? Babies and toddlers cost hardly anything - apart from clothing (which be bought cheaply on eBay or charity shops if they can't afford to buy new). Pureed/blended food and milk costs hardly anything so the only outlay is ... nappies - for which child benefit is adequate. Once these items are given out for nothing, plenty of freeloaders will be queueing up for them so they can spend their benefits on other things.

Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?
Nappy banks? So what do these people spend their tax credits and child benefit payments on then? Babies and toddlers cost hardly anything - apart from clothing (which be bought cheaply on eBay or charity shops if they can't afford to buy new). Pureed/blended food and milk costs hardly anything so the only outlay is ... nappies - for which child benefit is adequate. Once these items are given out for nothing, plenty of freeloaders will be queueing up for them so they can spend their benefits on other things. Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank? BournemouthMum
  • Score: 39

7:46pm Sat 11 Jan 14

whataboutthat says...

"Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?"

Your funny, so funny aren't you? Usual crap from Bournemouth mum and her ilk. Look just 25% of the population smoke - that means approx 75% of people on benefits don't smoke. So get off your high horse and see the povertyy tragedy unfolding in front of your eyes. Also lock your doors. When they get hungry they can rob you know! .Better helped by hasndouts than roaming the streets hungry? No? Your 'morality' sickens me.
"Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?" Your funny, so funny aren't you? Usual crap from Bournemouth mum and her ilk. Look just 25% of the population smoke - that means approx 75% of people on benefits don't smoke. So get off your high horse and see the povertyy tragedy unfolding in front of your eyes. Also lock your doors. When they get hungry they can rob you know! .Better helped by hasndouts than roaming the streets hungry? No? Your 'morality' sickens me. whataboutthat
  • Score: -31

8:02pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Just_Sayin' says...

No, no, no, no! If you can't afford nappies, you can't afford children!
No, no, no, no! If you can't afford nappies, you can't afford children! Just_Sayin'
  • Score: 34

8:13pm Sat 11 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

A worthy cause .but sounds a bit like mission creep by the nhs.focus on your brief .your publically funded service not a charity
A worthy cause .but sounds a bit like mission creep by the nhs.focus on your brief .your publically funded service not a charity kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 4

8:22pm Sat 11 Jan 14

High Treason says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Nappy banks? So what do these people spend their tax credits and child benefit payments on then? Babies and toddlers cost hardly anything - apart from clothing (which be bought cheaply on eBay or charity shops if they can't afford to buy new). Pureed/blended food and milk costs hardly anything so the only outlay is ... nappies - for which child benefit is adequate. Once these items are given out for nothing, plenty of freeloaders will be queueing up for them so they can spend their benefits on other things.

Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?
Next is the Viagra bank to keep the men in action to have more kids for more benefits, food banks and nappy banks.
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Nappy banks? So what do these people spend their tax credits and child benefit payments on then? Babies and toddlers cost hardly anything - apart from clothing (which be bought cheaply on eBay or charity shops if they can't afford to buy new). Pureed/blended food and milk costs hardly anything so the only outlay is ... nappies - for which child benefit is adequate. Once these items are given out for nothing, plenty of freeloaders will be queueing up for them so they can spend their benefits on other things. Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?[/p][/quote]Next is the Viagra bank to keep the men in action to have more kids for more benefits, food banks and nappy banks. High Treason
  • Score: 19

9:08pm Sat 11 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

This is a very simple hand out to means test: 'Do you receive any child tax relief or child benefit/s?' If so sorry cannot help - it's time to review what you are spending it on!

Having kids and the more the better, is the golden ticket as far as our UK benefits system is concerned, so there should be no genuine need whatsoever for this 'nappy bank'.
This is a very simple hand out to means test: 'Do you receive any child tax relief or child benefit/s?' If so sorry cannot help - it's time to review what you are spending it on! Having kids and the more the better, is the golden ticket as far as our UK benefits system is concerned, so there should be no genuine need whatsoever for this 'nappy bank'. muscliffman
  • Score: 17

9:44pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Flowerwells says...

Ok, if they can't afford nappies give them terry towelling ones. They probably all have washing machines so do what we had to do When we had our babies my husband had a good job and I used towelling nappies
Ok, if they can't afford nappies give them terry towelling ones. They probably all have washing machines so do what we had to do When we had our babies my husband had a good job and I used towelling nappies Flowerwells
  • Score: 25

10:04pm Sat 11 Jan 14

twynham says...

My wife and I donate to our local church food bank and I know for a fact that all recipients, many of whom are working, minimum wage, zero hours, etc. are means tested and vetted,
If we add a couple of quid to our Lidl bill (out of our State Pension) and a few of them are scammers, I don’t give a sh1t
I have not paid 58 years of PAYE to have food banks anywhere in this country, let alone in this area in 2014 without trying to help.
For those who disagree, try living on benefit with a spare bedroom.
And yes, I do know a single mother who has planned children as the only way to get accommodation and benefits, and cannot accept that society will not survive with that attitude, but, could it not be the fault of all political parties who have avoided saying “in ten years time you won’t get those benefits” because it has never been a vote winner?
Also, blackdog1 housing benefit is paid to the landlord.
P.S. For the religious sceptics out there, we give to the church because it is over the road, I’m an atheist.
My wife and I donate to our local church food bank and I know for a fact that all recipients, many of whom are working, minimum wage, zero hours, etc. are means tested and vetted, If we add a couple of quid to our Lidl bill (out of our State Pension) and a few of them are scammers, I don’t give a sh1t I have not paid 58 years of PAYE to have food banks anywhere in this country, let alone in this area in 2014 without trying to help. For those who disagree, try living on benefit with a spare bedroom. And yes, I do know a single mother who has planned children as the only way to get accommodation and benefits, and cannot accept that society will not survive with that attitude, but, could it not be the fault of all political parties who have avoided saying “in ten years time you won’t get those benefits” because it has never been a vote winner? Also, blackdog1 housing benefit is paid to the landlord. P.S. For the religious sceptics out there, we give to the church because it is over the road, I’m an atheist. twynham
  • Score: -8

10:13pm Sat 11 Jan 14

we-shall-see says...

I have an idea - give them all a dozen terry towelling nappies and tell them to get on with it - it's not like they have to hand wash them as our mothers and grandmothers did in the past and it's better for the environment and before anyone says anything - yes I did use them for my kids in the 80's and without the use of a washing machine.
I have an idea - give them all a dozen terry towelling nappies and tell them to get on with it - it's not like they have to hand wash them as our mothers and grandmothers did in the past and it's better for the environment and before anyone says anything - yes I did use them for my kids in the 80's and without the use of a washing machine. we-shall-see
  • Score: 34

12:31am Sun 12 Jan 14

live-and-let-live says...

can we have a wine bank please? i'm getting a bit low on supplies and i really dont want to have to drink beer.
can we have a wine bank please? i'm getting a bit low on supplies and i really dont want to have to drink beer. live-and-let-live
  • Score: 14

8:52am Sun 12 Jan 14

user_name says...

whataboutthat wrote:
"Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?"

Your funny, so funny aren't you? Usual crap from Bournemouth mum and her ilk. Look just 25% of the population smoke - that means approx 75% of people on benefits don't smoke. So get off your high horse and see the povertyy tragedy unfolding in front of your eyes. Also lock your doors. When they get hungry they can rob you know! .Better helped by hasndouts than roaming the streets hungry? No? Your 'morality' sickens me.
Figures show that 39% of unemployed people smoke compared it 21% of employed people.
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: "Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?" Your funny, so funny aren't you? Usual crap from Bournemouth mum and her ilk. Look just 25% of the population smoke - that means approx 75% of people on benefits don't smoke. So get off your high horse and see the povertyy tragedy unfolding in front of your eyes. Also lock your doors. When they get hungry they can rob you know! .Better helped by hasndouts than roaming the streets hungry? No? Your 'morality' sickens me.[/p][/quote]Figures show that 39% of unemployed people smoke compared it 21% of employed people. user_name
  • Score: 11

8:52am Sun 12 Jan 14

user_name says...

whataboutthat wrote:
"Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?"

Your funny, so funny aren't you? Usual crap from Bournemouth mum and her ilk. Look just 25% of the population smoke - that means approx 75% of people on benefits don't smoke. So get off your high horse and see the povertyy tragedy unfolding in front of your eyes. Also lock your doors. When they get hungry they can rob you know! .Better helped by hasndouts than roaming the streets hungry? No? Your 'morality' sickens me.
Figures show that 39% of unemployed people smoke compared it 21% of employed people.
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: "Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?" Your funny, so funny aren't you? Usual crap from Bournemouth mum and her ilk. Look just 25% of the population smoke - that means approx 75% of people on benefits don't smoke. So get off your high horse and see the povertyy tragedy unfolding in front of your eyes. Also lock your doors. When they get hungry they can rob you know! .Better helped by hasndouts than roaming the streets hungry? No? Your 'morality' sickens me.[/p][/quote]Figures show that 39% of unemployed people smoke compared it 21% of employed people. user_name
  • Score: 2

9:28am Sun 12 Jan 14

retry69 says...

twynham wrote:
My wife and I donate to our local church food bank and I know for a fact that all recipients, many of whom are working, minimum wage, zero hours, etc. are means tested and vetted,
If we add a couple of quid to our Lidl bill (out of our State Pension) and a few of them are scammers, I don’t give a sh1t
I have not paid 58 years of PAYE to have food banks anywhere in this country, let alone in this area in 2014 without trying to help.
For those who disagree, try living on benefit with a spare bedroom.
And yes, I do know a single mother who has planned children as the only way to get accommodation and benefits, and cannot accept that society will not survive with that attitude, but, could it not be the fault of all political parties who have avoided saying “in ten years time you won’t get those benefits” because it has never been a vote winner?
Also, blackdog1 housing benefit is paid to the landlord.
P.S. For the religious sceptics out there, we give to the church because it is over the road, I’m an atheist.
Very well said,its unfortunate that when stories like this appear it always attract those that will go out of their way to criticise anyone trying to help others.Many of those that do continually criticise are probably more fortunate than many and often find some satisfaction in reminding the rest of us eg work 100hrs a week,own their home mortgage free through their hard work since they were 9 years old,etc etc.well that's fine I wish them well, in the meantime the people that matter in this life are the ones who help those less fortunate.
[quote][p][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote: My wife and I donate to our local church food bank and I know for a fact that all recipients, many of whom are working, minimum wage, zero hours, etc. are means tested and vetted, If we add a couple of quid to our Lidl bill (out of our State Pension) and a few of them are scammers, I don’t give a sh1t I have not paid 58 years of PAYE to have food banks anywhere in this country, let alone in this area in 2014 without trying to help. For those who disagree, try living on benefit with a spare bedroom. And yes, I do know a single mother who has planned children as the only way to get accommodation and benefits, and cannot accept that society will not survive with that attitude, but, could it not be the fault of all political parties who have avoided saying “in ten years time you won’t get those benefits” because it has never been a vote winner? Also, blackdog1 housing benefit is paid to the landlord. P.S. For the religious sceptics out there, we give to the church because it is over the road, I’m an atheist.[/p][/quote]Very well said,its unfortunate that when stories like this appear it always attract those that will go out of their way to criticise anyone trying to help others.Many of those that do continually criticise are probably more fortunate than many and often find some satisfaction in reminding the rest of us eg work 100hrs a week,own their home mortgage free through their hard work since they were 9 years old,etc etc.well that's fine I wish them well, in the meantime the people that matter in this life are the ones who help those less fortunate. retry69
  • Score: 3

9:45am Sun 12 Jan 14

Fred Fernackerpan says...

Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.
Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord. Fred Fernackerpan
  • Score: 5

9:47am Sun 12 Jan 14

blackdog1 says...

whataboutthat wrote:
blackdog1 wrote:
Nappy banks , for gods sake! What do people do with their benefit money,housing benefit ,child credit and all the other payments they get for free!?
Quite simply blackdog1 it is not enough to live on. Have you seen the latest 'benefit' rates?
You get it for free! Free!........stop moaning
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackdog1[/bold] wrote: Nappy banks , for gods sake! What do people do with their benefit money,housing benefit ,child credit and all the other payments they get for free!?[/p][/quote]Quite simply blackdog1 it is not enough to live on. Have you seen the latest 'benefit' rates?[/p][/quote]You get it for free! Free!........stop moaning blackdog1
  • Score: 8

9:55am Sun 12 Jan 14

blackdog1 says...

Fred Fernackerpan wrote:
Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.
Who cares where it's paid! It's Free I have to pay for my housing! Do they pay for council tax? Hmmmm let me think oh yeah that's free........
[quote][p][bold]Fred Fernackerpan[/bold] wrote: Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.[/p][/quote]Who cares where it's paid! It's Free I have to pay for my housing! Do they pay for council tax? Hmmmm let me think oh yeah that's free........ blackdog1
  • Score: 8

10:00am Sun 12 Jan 14

dribydal says...

If you can't afford to buy the nappies and look after the baby THEN DON'T HAVE ONE!
If you can't afford to buy the nappies and look after the baby THEN DON'T HAVE ONE! dribydal
  • Score: 15

10:31am Sun 12 Jan 14

arthur1948 says...

More examples of scaring government ....it cares only for moneymoney.
More examples of scaring government ....it cares only for moneymoney. arthur1948
  • Score: -6

11:12am Sun 12 Jan 14

glendower2909 says...

user_name wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
"Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?"

Your funny, so funny aren't you? Usual crap from Bournemouth mum and her ilk. Look just 25% of the population smoke - that means approx 75% of people on benefits don't smoke. So get off your high horse and see the povertyy tragedy unfolding in front of your eyes. Also lock your doors. When they get hungry they can rob you know! .Better helped by hasndouts than roaming the streets hungry? No? Your 'morality' sickens me.
Figures show that 39% of unemployed people smoke compared it 21% of employed people.
Fab use of statistics to suit an argument. So 25% smoke so let's extrapolate that out to your meaningless assertion that ergo 75 % of benefit recipients don't smoke.

Ever thought of running for government wait no please don't or we will be giving more money to the benefit system.

Would be fab if we could get a figure is % of people on all means tested benefits that smoke. Way over 25% I suspect

Benefits have become a way of life and a perceived right to many. They were meant to be a short term stop gap for hard times. Respect to the initial poster for having pride in herself and not expecting a meal ticket.

Madness that again people are not willing to take responsibility for there own life and circumstances.
[quote][p][bold]user_name[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: "Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?" Your funny, so funny aren't you? Usual crap from Bournemouth mum and her ilk. Look just 25% of the population smoke - that means approx 75% of people on benefits don't smoke. So get off your high horse and see the povertyy tragedy unfolding in front of your eyes. Also lock your doors. When they get hungry they can rob you know! .Better helped by hasndouts than roaming the streets hungry? No? Your 'morality' sickens me.[/p][/quote]Figures show that 39% of unemployed people smoke compared it 21% of employed people.[/p][/quote]Fab use of statistics to suit an argument. So 25% smoke so let's extrapolate that out to your meaningless assertion that ergo 75 % of benefit recipients don't smoke. Ever thought of running for government wait no please don't or we will be giving more money to the benefit system. Would be fab if we could get a figure is % of people on all means tested benefits that smoke. Way over 25% I suspect Benefits have become a way of life and a perceived right to many. They were meant to be a short term stop gap for hard times. Respect to the initial poster for having pride in herself and not expecting a meal ticket. Madness that again people are not willing to take responsibility for there own life and circumstances. glendower2909
  • Score: 7

11:38am Sun 12 Jan 14

scrumpyjack says...

whataboutthat wrote:
"Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?"

Your funny, so funny aren't you? Usual crap from Bournemouth mum and her ilk. Look just 25% of the population smoke - that means approx 75% of people on benefits don't smoke. So get off your high horse and see the povertyy tragedy unfolding in front of your eyes. Also lock your doors. When they get hungry they can rob you know! .Better helped by hasndouts than roaming the streets hungry? No? Your 'morality' sickens me.
Is that so? It's as easy as that? No need to consider socio-economic factors?

From the Office of National Statistics:

Unemployed people twice as likely to smoke as employed people

ONS found that employment status is associated with smoking rates. Unemployed people (those not working but seeking work) were twice as likely to smoke (39%) as those in employment (21%) or economically inactive (for example, retired people and students) (17%). Smoking rates also varied by occupation, for instance, 33% of adults in routine and manual occupations (such as bar staff and delivery drivers) smoked, while 14% of those in managerial and professional occupations (such as accounting and teaching) smoked.
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: "Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?" Your funny, so funny aren't you? Usual crap from Bournemouth mum and her ilk. Look just 25% of the population smoke - that means approx 75% of people on benefits don't smoke. So get off your high horse and see the povertyy tragedy unfolding in front of your eyes. Also lock your doors. When they get hungry they can rob you know! .Better helped by hasndouts than roaming the streets hungry? No? Your 'morality' sickens me.[/p][/quote]Is that so? It's as easy as that? No need to consider socio-economic factors? From the Office of National Statistics: Unemployed people twice as likely to smoke as employed people ONS found that employment status is associated with smoking rates. Unemployed people (those not working but seeking work) were twice as likely to smoke (39%) as those in employment (21%) or economically inactive (for example, retired people and students) (17%). Smoking rates also varied by occupation, for instance, 33% of adults in routine and manual occupations (such as bar staff and delivery drivers) smoked, while 14% of those in managerial and professional occupations (such as accounting and teaching) smoked. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 2

11:44am Sun 12 Jan 14

scrumpyjack says...

Fred Fernackerpan wrote:
Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.
Not necessarily. In the main it is paid to the landlord.
[quote][p][bold]Fred Fernackerpan[/bold] wrote: Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.[/p][/quote]Not necessarily. In the main it is paid to the landlord. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 5

12:34pm Sun 12 Jan 14

glendower2909 says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Fred Fernackerpan wrote:
Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.
Not necessarily. In the main it is paid to the landlord.
Not for much longer. Main theme of universal credit is that monies paid direct to tennants. Watch this space for massive rise in rent arrears. Evictions. And landlords not prepared to take those on benefits.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fred Fernackerpan[/bold] wrote: Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.[/p][/quote]Not necessarily. In the main it is paid to the landlord.[/p][/quote]Not for much longer. Main theme of universal credit is that monies paid direct to tennants. Watch this space for massive rise in rent arrears. Evictions. And landlords not prepared to take those on benefits. glendower2909
  • Score: 4

12:39pm Sun 12 Jan 14

scrumpyjack says...

glendower2909 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Fred Fernackerpan wrote:
Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.
Not necessarily. In the main it is paid to the landlord.
Not for much longer. Main theme of universal credit is that monies paid direct to tennants. Watch this space for massive rise in rent arrears. Evictions. And landlords not prepared to take those on benefits.
It will end in tears that is for sure.
[quote][p][bold]glendower2909[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fred Fernackerpan[/bold] wrote: Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.[/p][/quote]Not necessarily. In the main it is paid to the landlord.[/p][/quote]Not for much longer. Main theme of universal credit is that monies paid direct to tennants. Watch this space for massive rise in rent arrears. Evictions. And landlords not prepared to take those on benefits.[/p][/quote]It will end in tears that is for sure. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 0

12:49pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Fred Fernackerpan says...

As a very recent ex-landlord I can assure you that Housing Benefit was not paid to me, it was paid to the tenants who spent it on other things, and then didn't have enough for rent. Landlords can apply to have it paid direct, but only once the tenants are 2 months in arrears. Most landlords (contrary to some views) cannot afford to have their tenants 2 months in arrears. We certainly couldn't!
As a very recent ex-landlord I can assure you that Housing Benefit was not paid to me, it was paid to the tenants who spent it on other things, and then didn't have enough for rent. Landlords can apply to have it paid direct, but only once the tenants are 2 months in arrears. Most landlords (contrary to some views) cannot afford to have their tenants 2 months in arrears. We certainly couldn't! Fred Fernackerpan
  • Score: 6

2:19pm Sun 12 Jan 14

scrumpyjack says...

Fred Fernackerpan wrote:
As a very recent ex-landlord I can assure you that Housing Benefit was not paid to me, it was paid to the tenants who spent it on other things, and then didn't have enough for rent. Landlords can apply to have it paid direct, but only once the tenants are 2 months in arrears. Most landlords (contrary to some views) cannot afford to have their tenants 2 months in arrears. We certainly couldn't!
As an ex-landlord I always had the money paid to me.
[quote][p][bold]Fred Fernackerpan[/bold] wrote: As a very recent ex-landlord I can assure you that Housing Benefit was not paid to me, it was paid to the tenants who spent it on other things, and then didn't have enough for rent. Landlords can apply to have it paid direct, but only once the tenants are 2 months in arrears. Most landlords (contrary to some views) cannot afford to have their tenants 2 months in arrears. We certainly couldn't![/p][/quote]As an ex-landlord I always had the money paid to me. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 4

3:16pm Sun 12 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
glendower2909 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Fred Fernackerpan wrote:
Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.
Not necessarily. In the main it is paid to the landlord.
Not for much longer. Main theme of universal credit is that monies paid direct to tennants. Watch this space for massive rise in rent arrears. Evictions. And landlords not prepared to take those on benefits.
It will end in tears that is for sure.
Maybe, but with benefits going directly to tenants it will probably be the Boscombe Landlords who will be crying for a change - such a shame, but every cloud.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glendower2909[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fred Fernackerpan[/bold] wrote: Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.[/p][/quote]Not necessarily. In the main it is paid to the landlord.[/p][/quote]Not for much longer. Main theme of universal credit is that monies paid direct to tennants. Watch this space for massive rise in rent arrears. Evictions. And landlords not prepared to take those on benefits.[/p][/quote]It will end in tears that is for sure.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but with benefits going directly to tenants it will probably be the Boscombe Landlords who will be crying for a change - such a shame, but every cloud. muscliffman
  • Score: 3

8:03pm Sun 12 Jan 14

scoooobles says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Nappy banks? So what do these people spend their tax credits and child benefit payments on then? Babies and toddlers cost hardly anything - apart from clothing (which be bought cheaply on eBay or charity shops if they can't afford to buy new). Pureed/blended food and milk costs hardly anything so the only outlay is ... nappies - for which child benefit is adequate. Once these items are given out for nothing, plenty of freeloaders will be queueing up for them so they can spend their benefits on other things.

Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?
actually baby milk is expensive!
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Nappy banks? So what do these people spend their tax credits and child benefit payments on then? Babies and toddlers cost hardly anything - apart from clothing (which be bought cheaply on eBay or charity shops if they can't afford to buy new). Pureed/blended food and milk costs hardly anything so the only outlay is ... nappies - for which child benefit is adequate. Once these items are given out for nothing, plenty of freeloaders will be queueing up for them so they can spend their benefits on other things. Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?[/p][/quote]actually baby milk is expensive! scoooobles
  • Score: 0

8:40pm Sun 12 Jan 14

BournemouthMum says...

scoooobles wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
Nappy banks? So what do these people spend their tax credits and child benefit payments on then? Babies and toddlers cost hardly anything - apart from clothing (which be bought cheaply on eBay or charity shops if they can't afford to buy new). Pureed/blended food and milk costs hardly anything so the only outlay is ... nappies - for which child benefit is adequate. Once these items are given out for nothing, plenty of freeloaders will be queueing up for them so they can spend their benefits on other things.

Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?
actually baby milk is expensive!
If I remember rightly it was actually free!
[quote][p][bold]scoooobles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Nappy banks? So what do these people spend their tax credits and child benefit payments on then? Babies and toddlers cost hardly anything - apart from clothing (which be bought cheaply on eBay or charity shops if they can't afford to buy new). Pureed/blended food and milk costs hardly anything so the only outlay is ... nappies - for which child benefit is adequate. Once these items are given out for nothing, plenty of freeloaders will be queueing up for them so they can spend their benefits on other things. Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?[/p][/quote]actually baby milk is expensive![/p][/quote]If I remember rightly it was actually free! BournemouthMum
  • Score: 0

9:35pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Fred Fernackerpan says...

Breast milk is certainly free
Breast milk is certainly free Fred Fernackerpan
  • Score: 0

10:03pm Sun 12 Jan 14

spooki says...

whataboutthat wrote:
A bit self righteous spooki.
JP Morgan - the bank that keeps getting fined for financial shenanigans.
Signs of the times with people unable to cope with low wages and crap prospects. They probably don't smoke or drink either. The self righteous always fasten on fags and booze as unpardonable sins. Really droll.
Looks to me that this is more or less means tested anyway so no free loaders - relax spooki.
I'm not self righteous! Just sensible. Sorry if that bothers you.
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: A bit self righteous spooki. JP Morgan - the bank that keeps getting fined for financial shenanigans. Signs of the times with people unable to cope with low wages and crap prospects. They probably don't smoke or drink either. The self righteous always fasten on fags and booze as unpardonable sins. Really droll. Looks to me that this is more or less means tested anyway so no free loaders - relax spooki.[/p][/quote]I'm not self righteous! Just sensible. Sorry if that bothers you. spooki
  • Score: 0

10:05pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Jetwasher says...

muscliffman wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
glendower2909 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Fred Fernackerpan wrote:
Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.
Not necessarily. In the main it is paid to the landlord.
Not for much longer. Main theme of universal credit is that monies paid direct to tennants. Watch this space for massive rise in rent arrears. Evictions. And landlords not prepared to take those on benefits.
It will end in tears that is for sure.
Maybe, but with benefits going directly to tenants it will probably be the Boscombe Landlords who will be crying for a change - such a shame, but every cloud.
For most people on the dole, am sure paying the rent won't be the first thing on there minds when it changes over to the UCS monthly allowance.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glendower2909[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fred Fernackerpan[/bold] wrote: Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.[/p][/quote]Not necessarily. In the main it is paid to the landlord.[/p][/quote]Not for much longer. Main theme of universal credit is that monies paid direct to tennants. Watch this space for massive rise in rent arrears. Evictions. And landlords not prepared to take those on benefits.[/p][/quote]It will end in tears that is for sure.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but with benefits going directly to tenants it will probably be the Boscombe Landlords who will be crying for a change - such a shame, but every cloud.[/p][/quote]For most people on the dole, am sure paying the rent won't be the first thing on there minds when it changes over to the UCS monthly allowance. Jetwasher
  • Score: 1

10:05pm Sun 12 Jan 14

spooki says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
scoooobles wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
Nappy banks? So what do these people spend their tax credits and child benefit payments on then? Babies and toddlers cost hardly anything - apart from clothing (which be bought cheaply on eBay or charity shops if they can't afford to buy new). Pureed/blended food and milk costs hardly anything so the only outlay is ... nappies - for which child benefit is adequate. Once these items are given out for nothing, plenty of freeloaders will be queueing up for them so they can spend their benefits on other things.

Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?
actually baby milk is expensive!
If I remember rightly it was actually free!
No...it was £8.95 a tub when I bought it. Or are you preaching "breast is best"? Some women don't get to choose you know!
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scoooobles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Nappy banks? So what do these people spend their tax credits and child benefit payments on then? Babies and toddlers cost hardly anything - apart from clothing (which be bought cheaply on eBay or charity shops if they can't afford to buy new). Pureed/blended food and milk costs hardly anything so the only outlay is ... nappies - for which child benefit is adequate. Once these items are given out for nothing, plenty of freeloaders will be queueing up for them so they can spend their benefits on other things. Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?[/p][/quote]actually baby milk is expensive![/p][/quote]If I remember rightly it was actually free![/p][/quote]No...it was £8.95 a tub when I bought it. Or are you preaching "breast is best"? Some women don't get to choose you know! spooki
  • Score: 0

10:06pm Sun 12 Jan 14

spooki says...

Jetwasher wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
glendower2909 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Fred Fernackerpan wrote:
Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.
Not necessarily. In the main it is paid to the landlord.
Not for much longer. Main theme of universal credit is that monies paid direct to tennants. Watch this space for massive rise in rent arrears. Evictions. And landlords not prepared to take those on benefits.
It will end in tears that is for sure.
Maybe, but with benefits going directly to tenants it will probably be the Boscombe Landlords who will be crying for a change - such a shame, but every cloud.
For most people on the dole, am sure paying the rent won't be the first thing on there minds when it changes over to the UCS monthly allowance.
Do you know when that will be? I thought it was meant to be last October.
[quote][p][bold]Jetwasher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glendower2909[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fred Fernackerpan[/bold] wrote: Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.[/p][/quote]Not necessarily. In the main it is paid to the landlord.[/p][/quote]Not for much longer. Main theme of universal credit is that monies paid direct to tennants. Watch this space for massive rise in rent arrears. Evictions. And landlords not prepared to take those on benefits.[/p][/quote]It will end in tears that is for sure.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but with benefits going directly to tenants it will probably be the Boscombe Landlords who will be crying for a change - such a shame, but every cloud.[/p][/quote]For most people on the dole, am sure paying the rent won't be the first thing on there minds when it changes over to the UCS monthly allowance.[/p][/quote]Do you know when that will be? I thought it was meant to be last October. spooki
  • Score: 0

10:15pm Sun 12 Jan 14

scoooobles says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
scoooobles wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
Nappy banks? So what do these people spend their tax credits and child benefit payments on then? Babies and toddlers cost hardly anything - apart from clothing (which be bought cheaply on eBay or charity shops if they can't afford to buy new). Pureed/blended food and milk costs hardly anything so the only outlay is ... nappies - for which child benefit is adequate. Once these items are given out for nothing, plenty of freeloaders will be queueing up for them so they can spend their benefits on other things.

Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?
actually baby milk is expensive!
If I remember rightly it was actually free!
Well it isn't
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scoooobles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Nappy banks? So what do these people spend their tax credits and child benefit payments on then? Babies and toddlers cost hardly anything - apart from clothing (which be bought cheaply on eBay or charity shops if they can't afford to buy new). Pureed/blended food and milk costs hardly anything so the only outlay is ... nappies - for which child benefit is adequate. Once these items are given out for nothing, plenty of freeloaders will be queueing up for them so they can spend their benefits on other things. Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?[/p][/quote]actually baby milk is expensive![/p][/quote]If I remember rightly it was actually free![/p][/quote]Well it isn't scoooobles
  • Score: 0

10:18pm Sun 12 Jan 14

scoooobles says...

Fred Fernackerpan wrote:
Breast milk is certainly free
Great, have you got any I could have?
[quote][p][bold]Fred Fernackerpan[/bold] wrote: Breast milk is certainly free[/p][/quote]Great, have you got any I could have? scoooobles
  • Score: 0

11:29pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Mrs C. A Townend says...

spooki wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
scoooobles wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
Nappy banks? So what do these people spend their tax credits and child benefit payments on then? Babies and toddlers cost hardly anything - apart from clothing (which be bought cheaply on eBay or charity shops if they can't afford to buy new). Pureed/blended food and milk costs hardly anything so the only outlay is ... nappies - for which child benefit is adequate. Once these items are given out for nothing, plenty of freeloaders will be queueing up for them so they can spend their benefits on other things.

Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?
actually baby milk is expensive!
If I remember rightly it was actually free!
No...it was £8.95 a tub when I bought it. Or are you preaching "breast is best"? Some women don't get to choose you know!
Baby milk is available free with milk tokens if you get benefits. I used to be on benefits, only ever used the milk tokens and no matter what happened, I went out of my way to provide nappies, food and essentials without ever relying on anyone to do it for me. It is a case of doing without luxuries and using the money for what it is for.
[quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scoooobles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Nappy banks? So what do these people spend their tax credits and child benefit payments on then? Babies and toddlers cost hardly anything - apart from clothing (which be bought cheaply on eBay or charity shops if they can't afford to buy new). Pureed/blended food and milk costs hardly anything so the only outlay is ... nappies - for which child benefit is adequate. Once these items are given out for nothing, plenty of freeloaders will be queueing up for them so they can spend their benefits on other things. Free food from the foodbank, free nappies from the nappy bank - sorted. I wonder what other 'bank' will be introduced next - a ciggie or beer bank?[/p][/quote]actually baby milk is expensive![/p][/quote]If I remember rightly it was actually free![/p][/quote]No...it was £8.95 a tub when I bought it. Or are you preaching "breast is best"? Some women don't get to choose you know![/p][/quote]Baby milk is available free with milk tokens if you get benefits. I used to be on benefits, only ever used the milk tokens and no matter what happened, I went out of my way to provide nappies, food and essentials without ever relying on anyone to do it for me. It is a case of doing without luxuries and using the money for what it is for. Mrs C. A Townend
  • Score: 2

11:34pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Mrs C. A Townend says...

And to add to that comment, parents who work still struggle to get their needs met too, especially when they have to pay child care, taxes and rent on top of their other needs but who steps forward to help them, when they need it? Not every body who works earns a high income.
And to add to that comment, parents who work still struggle to get their needs met too, especially when they have to pay child care, taxes and rent on top of their other needs but who steps forward to help them, when they need it? Not every body who works earns a high income. Mrs C. A Townend
  • Score: 3

12:47am Mon 13 Jan 14

portia6 says...

Life is precious and if there is a need then whats wrong with food banks or
any other help that is available? These families can be identified as being
vulnerable and will hopefully get on their feet given time. There but for the grace
of God etc.
Life is precious and if there is a need then whats wrong with food banks or any other help that is available? These families can be identified as being vulnerable and will hopefully get on their feet given time. There but for the grace of God etc. portia6
  • Score: 1

10:01am Mon 13 Jan 14

whataboutthat says...

Congratulations Dorset Healt care on this initiative. As you can see from the majority of posters above a good many people in Bournemouth and Poole simply have no concept of poverty and its prevalence in even this apparaently weaalty part of the country. All they can fasten on is the ability of the poor to indulge in smoking and drinking along with a very hazy concept of how people actually live. Their ignorance, as shown in these comments, is a disgrace.
Congratulations Dorset Healt care on this initiative. As you can see from the majority of posters above a good many people in Bournemouth and Poole simply have no concept of poverty and its prevalence in even this apparaently weaalty part of the country. All they can fasten on is the ability of the poor to indulge in smoking and drinking along with a very hazy concept of how people actually live. Their ignorance, as shown in these comments, is a disgrace. whataboutthat
  • Score: 2

2:33pm Mon 13 Jan 14

ashleycross says...

I suppose washing a nappy or even putting on a pair of rubber gloves would violate their human rights.
It should be a condition of accessing this service that they attend a minimum number of stop smoking sessions first.
I suppose washing a nappy or even putting on a pair of rubber gloves would violate their human rights. It should be a condition of accessing this service that they attend a minimum number of stop smoking sessions first. ashleycross
  • Score: 2

2:43pm Mon 13 Jan 14

glendower2909 says...

muscliffman wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
glendower2909 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
Fred Fernackerpan wrote:
Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.
Not necessarily. In the main it is paid to the landlord.
Not for much longer. Main theme of universal credit is that monies paid direct to tennants. Watch this space for massive rise in rent arrears. Evictions. And landlords not prepared to take those on benefits.
It will end in tears that is for sure.
Maybe, but with benefits going directly to tenants it will probably be the Boscombe Landlords who will be crying for a change - such a shame, but every cloud.
Not that simple.

Issue 1. Less landlord will be prepared to take benefit renters. Council will have to house or find b&b hence higher council tax bills

Issue 2. landlords can't get reliable tenants so cut losses and sell. Glut of properties hence scale economies means drop in house prices as more properties on market

Now I like issue 2 as it houses are way overpriced and we need a major correction. ( and I do say that as a home owner so no vested interest in wanting a price crash other than allowing my kids the option to buy their own home if they want
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glendower2909[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fred Fernackerpan[/bold] wrote: Housing Benefit is paid to the claimant - not the landlord.[/p][/quote]Not necessarily. In the main it is paid to the landlord.[/p][/quote]Not for much longer. Main theme of universal credit is that monies paid direct to tennants. Watch this space for massive rise in rent arrears. Evictions. And landlords not prepared to take those on benefits.[/p][/quote]It will end in tears that is for sure.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but with benefits going directly to tenants it will probably be the Boscombe Landlords who will be crying for a change - such a shame, but every cloud.[/p][/quote]Not that simple. Issue 1. Less landlord will be prepared to take benefit renters. Council will have to house or find b&b hence higher council tax bills Issue 2. landlords can't get reliable tenants so cut losses and sell. Glut of properties hence scale economies means drop in house prices as more properties on market Now I like issue 2 as it houses are way overpriced and we need a major correction. ( and I do say that as a home owner so no vested interest in wanting a price crash other than allowing my kids the option to buy their own home if they want glendower2909
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