Chiefs to vote on plans to build new beach huts and offer some residents 25 -year leases

Bournemouth Echo: WAITING LIST: Beach huts at Branksome Chine WAITING LIST: Beach huts at Branksome Chine

CIVIC chiefs are set to vote on New Year proposals to build 79 additional beach huts in Poole, as part of a project costing £1.2 million.

Borough of Poole environment overview and scrutiny committee members, who have already backed the new-build plans, also nodded through a motion to offer some of these new huts to residents on quarter-of-a-century leases.

Currently, there are hundreds of people on Poole’s beach hut waiting lists but only between 40 and 60 huts from the borough’s 1,065 become available each year.

Past proposals to limit the time leases can run have been met with anger by some owners – while others believe the longer term leases are fundamentally unfair, as they further limit numbers able to rent.

If this latest plan, which includes a proposal to offer some of the new beach huts on 25-year leases, is passed by Borough of Poole’s cabinet in January, the scheme will still need full council approval the following month before moving ahead.

Cllr Tony Trent, chair of the environment overview and scrutiny committee, said: “Poole’s beaches are one of its most prized assets and understandably waiting lists for beach huts are long.

“We must try to ensure as many huts are available to our residents as possible through a range of options. These include annual let, short-term let, and possibly in the future, the use of a long-term leases – which would help finance the provision of new huts.”

Meanwhile, Poole Beach Hut Association chairman Bob Lister, told the Daily Echo: “We were concerned that the paid up-front 25-year leases could apply to not just Poole residents but to anyone. However, the scrutiny committee did agree to make the 25-year leases open to Poole residents first then other people.

“Personally I don’t support this scheme, because while there’s 250 people on the hut waiting list, I think people would be somewhat annoyed to find a certain number of beach huts will only be available on 25 year leases.”

Proposals will be developed and presented to Borough of Poole cabinet on January 14. If recommended for approval they will go to full council on February 25.

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12:51pm Wed 1 Jan 14

BobBall says...

1.2 million / 79 = 15189.8

That seems a lot to construct what is effectively an empty shed.
1.2 million / 79 = 15189.8 That seems a lot to construct what is effectively an empty shed. BobBall

12:54pm Wed 1 Jan 14

60plus says...

I think the people on the waiting list find out the costs of yearly rental they might change their minds,this year has cost me £1.800 plus a car park pass.their are loads of huts empty because risidents cannot afford them.
I think the people on the waiting list find out the costs of yearly rental they might change their minds,this year has cost me £1.800 plus a car park pass.their are loads of huts empty because risidents cannot afford them. 60plus

2:22pm Wed 1 Jan 14

we-shall-see says...

£1.2 million on beach huts, when front line services are being cut? Utter madness!!!

As for 25 year leases - well we all know what will happen there …….. locals won't be able to afford it, so they will go to outsiders, who will then sub-let them to locals.

It's about time Poole Council did something positive for the residents of Poole for a change and in this case I think they should build huts and make them all short term or annual lets for the locals …… after all, is it not OUR money being used to build the things in the first place?!!

It would be interesting to know what the money raised will be used for as well…..
£1.2 million on beach huts, when front line services are being cut? Utter madness!!! As for 25 year leases - well we all know what will happen there …….. locals won't be able to afford it, so they will go to outsiders, who will then sub-let them to locals. It's about time Poole Council did something positive for the residents of Poole for a change and in this case I think they should build huts and make them all short term or annual lets for the locals …… after all, is it not OUR money being used to build the things in the first place?!! It would be interesting to know what the money raised will be used for as well….. we-shall-see

2:34pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Old Colonial says...

The Council have completely lost their way on this.
The Council have completely lost their way on this. Old Colonial

4:16pm Wed 1 Jan 14

BmthNewshound says...

With so many people on the waiting list wouldn't it make sense to operate some sort of timeshare scheme so that more than one family can benefit from the huts. The majority of beach huts are not used on a regular basis with many being rented out to generate an income for the tenants (HMRC should take note) rather than being used by the tenants themselves.
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It seems that Poole Council is determined to ruin Poole seafront with over commercialisation just like the idiots who occupy Bournemouth Town Hall.
With so many people on the waiting list wouldn't it make sense to operate some sort of timeshare scheme so that more than one family can benefit from the huts. The majority of beach huts are not used on a regular basis with many being rented out to generate an income for the tenants (HMRC should take note) rather than being used by the tenants themselves. . It seems that Poole Council is determined to ruin Poole seafront with over commercialisation just like the idiots who occupy Bournemouth Town Hall. BmthNewshound

4:47pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Hessenford says...

Waste of money when services are being cut and people are searching out food banks just to survive.
Waste of money when services are being cut and people are searching out food banks just to survive. Hessenford

5:13pm Wed 1 Jan 14

boblister says...

Poole Council have not really thought this one through, 25 lease paid up front, possibly £50,000! Who and what age group could afford that?
Certainly the retired 55-65 year old might be able to but who has a crystal ball to find out if they might live to 80 or 95????
The 40+ adults are tied up with mortgages and kids at school etc so they could not afford them. The Councillors are talking of 30+ huts initially, but will it stop here?
With 250 people on the closed waiting list and it reopening on January 16th to new people, they could all be very disappointed. That's if they know the cost now of annual beach hut rents. They have gone up 59% compounded over 4 years. Poole is 20% more for the same size huts as Bournemouth
Poole Council have not really thought this one through, 25 lease paid up front, possibly £50,000! Who and what age group could afford that? Certainly the retired 55-65 year old might be able to but who has a crystal ball to find out if they might live to 80 or 95???? The 40+ adults are tied up with mortgages and kids at school etc so they could not afford them. The Councillors are talking of 30+ huts initially, but will it stop here? With 250 people on the closed waiting list and it reopening on January 16th to new people, they could all be very disappointed. That's if they know the cost now of annual beach hut rents. They have gone up 59% compounded over 4 years. Poole is 20% more for the same size huts as Bournemouth boblister

5:38pm Wed 1 Jan 14

ashleycross says...

And according to the public consultation document we the public have to agree to so called improvements to the beaches in Poole or the council may be forced to shut some of the beaches because of lack of funding. Never mind that the beaches are the property of the Crown between high and low tide so we have all had the right to use beaches since William the Conqueror had the Domesday book written. Apparently in Poole we don't have legal rights to use the beach and have to do what the council tells us like good little peasants, or to use the modern term CHAVS.
The lack of parking for existing beach users makes the addition of new huts totally illegal as it breaches every national planning guideline ever published. Poole's councillors are about as likely to spend their fact finding trips abroad on a Greenpeace boat as they are to make cycling and the bus station safe enough for the roads to empty of cars so that such a development could take place legally.
And according to the public consultation document we the public have to agree to so called improvements to the beaches in Poole or the council may be forced to shut some of the beaches because of lack of funding. Never mind that the beaches are the property of the Crown between high and low tide so we have all had the right to use beaches since William the Conqueror had the Domesday book written. Apparently in Poole we don't have legal rights to use the beach and have to do what the council tells us like good little peasants, or to use the modern term CHAVS. The lack of parking for existing beach users makes the addition of new huts totally illegal as it breaches every national planning guideline ever published. Poole's councillors are about as likely to spend their fact finding trips abroad on a Greenpeace boat as they are to make cycling and the bus station safe enough for the roads to empty of cars so that such a development could take place legally. ashleycross

5:41pm Wed 1 Jan 14

ashleycross says...

BobBall wrote:
1.2 million / 79 = 15189.8

That seems a lot to construct what is effectively an empty shed.
What are the chances of the echo publishing who gets the contract to build them?
[quote][p][bold]BobBall[/bold] wrote: 1.2 million / 79 = 15189.8 That seems a lot to construct what is effectively an empty shed.[/p][/quote]What are the chances of the echo publishing who gets the contract to build them? ashleycross

7:22pm Wed 1 Jan 14

sc61 says...

Old Colonial wrote:
The Council have completely lost their way on this.
Agreed, utterly insane to spend over a million pounds of public money on a project which will be of no benefit whatsoever to more than 99.99% of the local population.
[quote][p][bold]Old Colonial[/bold] wrote: The Council have completely lost their way on this.[/p][/quote]Agreed, utterly insane to spend over a million pounds of public money on a project which will be of no benefit whatsoever to more than 99.99% of the local population. sc61

10:31pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Yankee1 says...

Will these be 'iconic' beach huts for the 'aspirational' classes?
Will these be 'iconic' beach huts for the 'aspirational' classes? Yankee1

11:37pm Wed 1 Jan 14

boblister says...

The idea BoP had was that the £1.2 million is to be funded by selling 25 year leases in advance on 30+ huts @ £50,000, hence £1.5m
So no it wont cost ratepayers indirectly, but Beach Huts generate £1.25m income per year, Very little, £400K gets ring fenced for beaches.
So beach hut tenants are subsidising Welfare and Social Services, Education etc by £800+k per year
So they really are the fatted calf for BoP
The idea BoP had was that the £1.2 million is to be funded by selling 25 year leases in advance on 30+ huts @ £50,000, hence £1.5m So no it wont cost ratepayers indirectly, but Beach Huts generate £1.25m income per year, Very little, £400K gets ring fenced for beaches. So beach hut tenants are subsidising Welfare and Social Services, Education etc by £800+k per year So they really are the fatted calf for BoP boblister

11:45pm Wed 1 Jan 14

boblister says...

BmthNewshound wrote:
With so many people on the waiting list wouldn't it make sense to operate some sort of timeshare scheme so that more than one family can benefit from the huts. The majority of beach huts are not used on a regular basis with many being rented out to generate an income for the tenants (HMRC should take note) rather than being used by the tenants themselves.
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It seems that Poole Council is determined to ruin Poole seafront with over commercialisation just like the idiots who occupy Bournemouth Town Hall.
This is fiction not fact, BmthNewshound
There are Short Term rental huts available by the day or week or winter lets always available from BoP.

A maximum of 56 days a year at rates set by BoP is all the annual tenants can sub rent huts for.
HMRC would not be interested as the sub rent is the same as charged to tenants, so there is no profit, just recovering some costs.
[quote][p][bold]BmthNewshound[/bold] wrote: With so many people on the waiting list wouldn't it make sense to operate some sort of timeshare scheme so that more than one family can benefit from the huts. The majority of beach huts are not used on a regular basis with many being rented out to generate an income for the tenants (HMRC should take note) rather than being used by the tenants themselves. . It seems that Poole Council is determined to ruin Poole seafront with over commercialisation just like the idiots who occupy Bournemouth Town Hall.[/p][/quote]This is fiction not fact, BmthNewshound There are Short Term rental huts available by the day or week or winter lets always available from BoP. A maximum of 56 days a year at rates set by BoP is all the annual tenants can sub rent huts for. HMRC would not be interested as the sub rent is the same as charged to tenants, so there is no profit, just recovering some costs. boblister

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